July 18, 2015

Greece's tragedy provides a cautionary tale for Canada

Brian LilleyArchive

After years of being indulged by governments that love deficit spending, fiscal reality has hit Greece hard and Greek citizens are responding by rioting.  

Thatcher warned us about the problem with socialism and now Greece has run out of other peoples' money.

Potential lenders are first demanding that cuts be made to lavish social programs before considering another bailout.

What does this have to do with Canada?

In October,Canadians will go to the polls and with two of the serious contenders in the race having already demonstrated their love of deficit spending, Canada could easily find itself on the road to Greece.

I outline the many ways that this could happen.


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commented 2015-07-24 15:05:36 -0400
Perfectly said Bert Cabling
commented 2015-07-20 22:55:19 -0400
Peter Bell – Aye, the hegemony of Germany. Beware, Canada, not to join any EU-styled monster.
commented 2015-07-20 14:47:53 -0400
Greece, the first country (but not the last) to be bankrupted and taken over by bankers and the EU and Germany—yes, Germany!
Greece is just a trial run, who will be next?
commented 2015-07-19 17:13:59 -0400
that is what’s happening now in Alberta! investors are either on hault or pulling out now!! this cursed is the own doing of the albertan voters whom themselves thought that changes would be good. but there is no other partyies except the three. and worst is voting that they thought this NDP will give them free lunch! Albertans there’s no give aways nowadays! You have to work! that is why we are getting overseas workers because many are lazy in this province and just want to have free rides! Wake up!!! Soon keep on doing this lazy habit, Alberta will no longer progressive and will just die just like the eastern provinces!
commented 2015-07-19 15:36:12 -0400
“the cutting of home mail delivery” Well, to accept that argument, reinstate home delivery of milk and dairy products as well! That went by the wayside as it became uneconomic to continue. Canada Post Corporation is a Crown Corporation at arm’s length from Gov’t expected to finance their own operations and not become a drain on taxpayers! That decision regarding mail delivery was, and always has been since Crown Corporation status in the 1980’s the purvue of Corporation Brass. I say this as one who WILL lose my home delivery in the very near future, likely this fall. Although I am not terribly happy about it, I understand the rationale. I will adapt. The one positive I am looking at is the ability to mail a letter from the box’s site, as opposed to having to go to a retail post office or driving around looking for a red box. That should save me both time and gasoline.
commented 2015-07-19 13:06:00 -0400
Honesty is a dangerous trait Brian. Don’t be surprised when the unions put their people to work to censor your site lol. Honest, sensible, well articulated arguments against socialist policies may get The Rebel taken off the web. Fantastic post Brian.
commented 2015-07-19 12:51:11 -0400
“Harper is getting my vote, because he is intelligent, he loves his country, he is a real economist, and the best PM we have ever had. He is a great statesman, and we will rue the day if he is unseated”. Quote by DEBORAH GRAUPNER, and well worth repeating over and over. Mr. Harper will get my vote as well.
Kenneth Lawrence, I think you are being a little harsh and unfair to Mr. Harper.
He is the Prime Minister, but he does NOT make every decision in government, he can’t, it would be impossible. That’s is why he has departments and department heads. These people make decisions for and about their areas of responsibilities. I don’t pretend to be knowledgeable about the intricate workings of government, but common sense tells me that these department heads, or ministers make decisions based on advice they get from advisors within their own ministries and make it with good intensions. Some times they get it wrong, but most times we the public don’t like these decisions, because they affect us in some way, or think it will.
Having said all that, it is still a fact that Mr. Harper does not make every decision in government. He might approve or disapprove of them, but for the most part he leaves it to the people in charge.
So, please don’t blame everything on Mr. Harper. That is what the Lieberals and the dippers do, and that is why most of us condemn them for the things they say.
commented 2015-07-19 12:22:28 -0400
Kenneth . . . “gov’t chopped the Coast Guard station that serviced English Bay in Vancouver” ?
It was a towing service for the yachts in English Bay . . . in well over a year it has not been missed. Not ONCE !

Canadian have a choice to make in October . . . if we choose the socialists we must be prepared for the pain that will be inflicted on our children and grand-children. Mulcair has a track record of Failure in Quebec . . . Justin has no record at all . . . a rank amateur, that didn’t work out well for our southern neighbors.

Socialism is just so 20th century, the last decade could be described as the comeback of socialism. In response to the financial crisis, nations foolheartedly turned to central governments to steer them out of crisis. Government debt, spending and regulatory activity soared all across Europe and in the United States. The Keynesian model that government welfare spending as a “stimulus” came storming back in vogue — nowhere more so than in the United States.

Many countries, including Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and France — as well as the United States — experimented with quasi-socialist governments. Now the bitter price is being paid.

This more than anything else explains why the world is twisting in financial turmoil in recent weeks. Not just Greece, but at least a half a dozen nations appear to be on the verge of bankruptcy because they can’t afford the social welfare states they have, and the bills are coming due. The socialists are getting hammered.
commented 2015-07-19 04:13:01 -0400
I agree Brian, but unfortunately the progressives are going to win the next election, because Harper is such a skinflint that he has lost the swing vote that would have kept the Conservatives in office four more years and beyond. For example, his gov’t chopped the Coast Guard station that serviced English Bay in Vancouver, and I can tell you that just one tragedy that could have been prevented by that station will sink the Conservatives in B.C. for the next ten years, and it will eventually happen.

Then there is his raising of the OAS age to 67. Don’t think Tom and JT won’t make hay out of that in the election campaign, and the same applies to the cutting of home mail delivery. You would think Harper could come up with a better plan than turning Canada into a 3rd world country to keep us from going the Greece route. But he seems to have lost all sense of proportion, and he keeps cutting basic services that Canadians need instead of just making them more efficient. I guess living at 24 Sussex Drive has the effect after a while of cutting off the PM from understanding the lives of ordinary Canadians. Unfortunately, the opposition isn’t asleep like Harper and will be promising to restore basic services that Harper has cut, and it will win them enough votes to take the Conservatives out of majority territory in a few months’ time. I guarantee it.

If anyone in the PMO is reading this (I know Harper isn’t, he is too busy dealing with things on the international stage that most Canadians could care less about, to keep his finger on the pulse of ordinary Canadians any more), all I can say is, listen up and get Harper to reverse course on these cuts, because otherwise you are going to be looking for a new job soon. That’s what happens when an out of touch government shafts its own base and just ignores the rest of the population.
commented 2015-07-18 22:41:40 -0400
Thanks for the reminder Brian, I think you are quite right.
How many Have Provinces are left? We can’t count on Alberta much longer.
We are at the mercy of a Siri Electorate.
commented 2015-07-18 21:38:40 -0400
Canada is heading down the same road as Greece.
commented 2015-07-18 20:39:51 -0400
Yes we know JT and angry Tom will finish off what’s left of Canada but what are we going to do about it? I hear the ads saying Trudeau isn’t ready yet, like he ever will be. And I hear the engage Canada ads saying Harpers conservatives won’t be there for you. It’s time some attack ads against Tom and NDP like the criminal spending and union funded election ads
commented 2015-07-18 19:55:44 -0400
I’ve seen a new word making the rounds.. ‘greecey’… It refers to a person / political party / country, who buys items of comfort / entertainment, on credit, and who cannot or will not ever pay off the loan.. and most likely never had any intention to, or thought from the on-set that someone else would pay the loan for them…
To this avail, I believe that the NDP is the most ‘greecey’ party in Canada.
Perhaps this new expression is an evolution of the outdated verb ‘to greek’ someone.
commented 2015-07-18 17:57:22 -0400
Fraser I’m not pissed off, just a little aggravated because I view the stories and news casts that the Rebel post even on the weekends. I like reading all the posts and getting all the different views. If you had posted your history lesson on one of the stories, then OK I can make the choice to read them or not, however when I then go to the next story and have to scroll down two very lengthy history lessons repeated again and again on three different stories, it becomes a little much don’t you think?
commented 2015-07-18 16:51:57 -0400
Vlad, when it comes to socialists, your better off talking to a wall. I have made the exact point you made in your post and to this day I have not had any valid responses to that question. You are right, socialists do not have any solutions that are better.
commented 2015-07-18 16:17:40 -0400
Good afternoon Marty Ashfield I post these educational and interesting moments on history for the entertainment and light reading for those who want to take the time to read them. THE REBEL staff are having the weekend off and they don’t post news on their site on the weekend. Thanks to the people who fought for our rights through out the centuries for us to have freedom of chose and one of the choses we have is what we read. You have made your chose so don’t read them. Wait until tomorrow when I post who’s birthday it was between July 13 and July 19 That should really piss you off. I post them on many clips because some people only read some of the posts and by the way it’s only for fun so lets have a little fun.
commented 2015-07-18 15:57:19 -0400
Bill Elder, who then do you recommend for PM if Harper is spending as a “drunken socialists on a credit binge”?
commented 2015-07-18 15:43:44 -0400
Everything exactly.
commented 2015-07-18 15:09:26 -0400
Fraser McBurney, what the heck is wrong with you? Posting your history lessons on one site is bad enough, but you don’t have to do it on every site.
It is very aggravating and I am surprised the Rebel posted you on every site.
Start a school and teach all you want, but please don’t do it on every site.
commented 2015-07-18 13:17:46 -0400
@billelder – fair enough. So who will replace Harper and likely do a better job?

troodo? no-cair? You know it`s one thing to whine about something, but it`s another to have a solution. This separates the adults from the children.
If you don`t have a solution, stop whining like a lefty Canadian child.
commented 2015-07-18 12:55:24 -0400
I could almost agree with you Brian IF the Harper government had a record of responsible fiscal budgeting, but they have spent almost as badly as drunken socialists on a credit binge. Harper did not trim back the social welfare state, he just didn’t expand it – that makes him a maintainer of the social welfare state (nanny state), not the conservative ot libertarian he claims to be.
commented 2015-07-18 12:53:34 -0400
1955 Last woman hanged for murder in Great Britain
Nightclub owner Ruth Ellis is convicted of murdering boyfriend David Blakely on this day in 1955. Ellis was later executed by hanging and became the last woman in Great Britain to be put to death. Ellis was born in Rhyl, Wales, in 1926. She left school as a young teenager,
1943 Largest tank battle in history ends
The Battle of Kursk, involving some 6,000 tanks, two million men, and 5,000 aircraft, ends with the German offensive repulsed by the Soviets at heavy cost.
In early July, Germany and the USSR concentrated their forces near the city of Kursk in western Russia, site of a 150-mile-wide Soviet pocket that jutted 100 miles into the German lines. The German attack began on July 5, and 38 divisions, nearly half of which were armored, began moving from the south and the north. However, the Soviets had better tanks and air support than in previous battles, and in bitter fighting Soviet antitank artillery destroyed as much as 40 percent of the German armor, which included their new Mark VI Tiger tanks. After six days of warfare concentrated near Prokhorovka, south of Kursk, the German Field Marshal Gunther von Kluge called off the offensive, and by July 23 the Soviets had forced the Germans back to their original positions.
World War I1914 Austrian investigation into archduke’s assassination concludes On July 13, 1914, Friedrich von Wiesner, an official of the Austro-Hungarian Foreign Office, reports back to Foreign Minister Leopold von Berchtold the findings of an investigation into the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austrian throne, and his wife Sophie the previous June 28, in Sarajevo, Bosnia.
1789 French revolutionaries storm Bastille
Parisian revolutionaries and mutinous troops storm and dismantle the Bastille, a royal fortress that had come to symbolize the tyranny of the Bourbon monarchs. This dramatic action signaled the beginning of the French Revolution, a decade of political turmoil and terror in which King Louis XVI was overthrown and tens of thousands of people, including the king and his wife Marie Antoinette, were executed.
The Bastille was originally constructed in 1370 as a bastide, or “fortification,” to protect the walled city of Paris from English attack. It was later made into an independent stronghold, and its name–bastide–was corrupted to Bastille. The Bastille was first used as a state prison in the 17th century, and its cells were reserved for upper-class felons, political troublemakers, and spies. Most prisoners there were imprisoned without a trial under direct orders of the king. Standing 100 feet tall and surrounded by a moat more than 80 feet wide, the Bastille was an imposing structure in the Parisian landscape.
1798 Sedition Act becomes federal law On this day in 1798, one of the most egregious breaches of the U.S. Constitution in history becomes federal law when Congress passes the Sedition Act, endangering liberty in the fragile new nation. While the United States engaged in naval hostilities with Revolutionary France, known as the Quasi-Wa
1099 Jerusalem captured in First Crusade During the First Crusade, Christian knights from Europe capture Jerusalem after seven weeks of siege and begin massacring the city’s Muslim and Jewish population.
Beginning in the 11th century, Christians in Jerusalem were increasingly persecuted by the city’s Islamic rulers, especially when control of the holy city passed from the relatively tolerant Egyptians to the Seljuk Turks in 1071. Late in the century, Byzantine Emperor Alexius Comenus, also threatened by the Seljuk Turks, appealed to the West for aid. In 1095, Pope Urban II publicly called for a crusade to aid Eastern Christians and recover the holy lands. The response by Western Europeans was immediate.
The first crusaders were actually undisciplined hordes of French and German peasants who met with little success. One group, known as the “People’s Crusade,” reached as far as Constantinople before being annihilated by the Turks. In 1096, the main crusading force, featuring some 4,000 mounted knights and 25,000 infantry, began to move east. Led by Raymond of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Robert of Flanders, and Bohemond of Otranto, the army of Christian knights crossed into Asia Minor in 1097.
In June, the crusaders captured the Turkish-held city of Nicaea and then defeated a massive army of Seljuk Turks at Dorylaeum. From there, they marched on to Antioch, located on the Orontes River below Mount Silpius, and began a difficult six-month siege during which they repulsed several attacks by Turkish relief armies. Finally, early in the morning of June 3, 1098, Bohemond persuaded a Turkish traitor to open Antioch’s Bridge Gate, and the knights poured into the city. In an orgy of killing, the Christians massacred thousands of enemy soldiers and citizens, and all but the city’s fortified citadel was taken. Later in the month, a large Turkish army arrived to attempt to regain the city, but they too were defeated, and the Antioch citadel surrendered to the Europeans.
After resting and reorganizing for six months, the crusaders set off for their ultimate goal, Jerusalem. Their numbers were now reduced to some 1,200 cavalry and 12,000 foot soldiers. On June 7, 1099, the Christian army reached the holy city, and finding it heavily fortified, began building three enormous siege towers. By the night of July 13, the towers were complete, and the Christians began fighting their way across Jerusalem’s walls. On July 14, Godfrey’s men were the first to penetrate the defenses, and the Gate of Saint Stephen was opened. The rest of the knights and soldiers then poured in, the city was captured, and tens of thousands of its occupants were slaughtered.
The crusaders had achieved their aims, and Jerusalem was in Christian hands, but an Egyptian army marched on the holy city a few weeks later to challenge their claim. The Egyptians’ defeat by the outnumbered Christians in August ended Muslim resistance to the Europeans for the time being, and five small Christian states were set up in the region under the rule of the leaders of the crusade.
1789 Lafayette selected colonel-general of the National Guard of Paris
On this day in 1789, only one day after the fall of the Bastille marked the beginning of a new revolutionary regime in France, the French aristocrat and hero of the American War for Independence, Marie-Joseph Paul Roch Yves Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, becomes the colonel-general of the National Guard of Paris by acclamation. Lafayette served as a human link between America and France in what is sometimes known as The Age of Revolutions
World War I1918 Second Battle of the Marne begins with final German offensive
On this day in 1918, near the Marne River in the Champagne region of France, the Germans begin what would be their final offensive push of World War I. Dubbed the Second Battle of the Marne, the conflict ended several days later in a major victory for the Allies.
1945 Atom bomb successfully testedOn this day in 1945, at 5:29:45 a.m., the Manhattan Project comes to an explosive end as the first atom bomb is successfully tested in Alamogordo, New Mexico
World War I 1918 Romanov family executed In Yekaterinburg, Russia, Czar Nicholas II and his family are executed by the Bolsheviks, bringing an end to the three-century-old Romanov dynasty. Crowned in 1896, Nicholas was neither trained nor inclined to rule, which did not help the autocracy he sought to preserve among a people desperate for change.
64 AD Nero’s Rome burns The great fire of Rome breaks out and destroys much of the city on this day in the year 64. Despite the well-known stories, there is no evidence that the Roman emperor, Nero, either started the fire or played the fiddle while it burned. Still, he did use…
64 AD Fire of Rome A fire erupts in Rome, spreading rapidly throughout the market area in the center of the city. When the flames finally died out more than a week later, nearly two-thirds of Rome had been destroyed.Emperor Nero used the fire as an opportunity to rebuild Rome in a more orderly Greek…

1936 Spanish Civil War breaks out On July 18, 1936, the Spanish Civil War begins as a revolt by right-wing Spanish military officers in Spanish Morocco and spreads to mainland Spain. From the Canary Islands, General Francisco Franco broadcasts a message calling for all army officers to join the uprising and overthrow Spain’s leftist Republican government
World War I1918 Allies begin major counter-offensive in Second Battle of the Marne Three days after a German offensive near the Marne River in the Champagne region of France meets with failure, Allied forces launch a major counterattack on July 18, 1918, ending the Second Battle of the Marne and decisively turning the tide of the war toward an Allied victory.