August 26, 2019

Green energy is about money, not the climate — that's why they reject clean nuclear power

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

On the latest episode of The Ezra Levant Show, we covered why the nuclear answer to climate change woes in Germany, France and beyond is ignored in favour of wind farms and other “green energy” schemes.

Electricity in France is dominated by nuclear power, but neighbouring Germany has been struggling for years to pay for government subsidized wind farms. German paper Der Spiegel reported earlier this year that after twenty years and approximately 3 trillion dollars, the country barely scraps 1/3 of their energy from green sources.

Further, numerous wind turbines will be decommissioned as their 20-year-subsidies dry up after launching in the year 2000. In this clip from the show, we'll go over the climate warriors' reasons to ignore good clean nuclear power.

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commented 2019-08-28 13:13:53 -0400
DONNA FISHER commented 12 mins ago
Back in the 70’s, they would scare all of us kids in school by telling us that an ice age was coming and we were all going to freeze to death.”

It’s almost as if the development of satellites and computers improved their awareness of the situation… in addition, human influences only really started to overwhelm the slight natural cooling in the 50s and 60s, which is why the “best model” changed in the early 70s.
commented 2019-08-28 13:10:42 -0400
DALE WARREN commented 34 mins ago
@ Andrew . . . more insane Propaganda . . . .

CO2 can’t warm anything Andrew . . . Temp rises and then CO2 gradually increases . . . has been doing that for Millions of years. "

Yes, it can. That claim is kind of like claiming leaving your car in the sun won’t warm it up. Physics, Dale. It’s not something you can wish away.

If rising temperatures cause CO2 to rise, what happens if you increase CO2 via fossil fuels, disturbing those processes?

“The Predominant GH Gas is Water Vapor . . . over 90% . . . and it is almost NEVER mentioned. "

It’s controlled for in the models. It’s not mentioned because it’s not something we can control, being a consequence of ocean temperatures. It seems that increased humidity is largely offset by albedo from increased cloudiness anyway, to the point where there’s no clear trend in temperature. What’s responisble for the other 20%?

“Today the Earth is Greener than at any time in memory . . . thanks to more abundant CO2 . . . if we doubled CO2 tomorrow, no one but the Petunias would notice. "

I’m really curious if you’ve ever actually looked at the paper that is the source of that claim. The “greener” areas represent a tiny fraction of the earth’s surface.

“Anyone who thinks .04% CO2 is a problem is a Science Illiterate!”
Anybody that thinks low absolute percentage means it can’t be dangerous is scientifically illiterate. CFCs are a problem and they’re measured in parts per billion or less. Low levels of a potent IR absorber can be just as problematic as lots of a weak IR absorber.

“After 30 odd years . . . AGW is still an Unproven Hypothesis !”

The hypothesis is around 150 years old, they pondered it when they first discovered CO2 is an infrared absorber, right around the time they invented IR spectroscopes. Hypotheses can never be proven; proofs only exist in mathematics. Balance of evidence suggests its’ real.
commented 2019-08-28 13:00:35 -0400
Yup, it’s green alright. As in greenbacks! Socialist money sucking scheme as Stephen Harper called it.
Back in the 70’s, they would scare all of us kids in school by telling us that an ice age was coming and we were all going to freeze to death. Chicken littles. I’ve never met a happy leftie. It seems that if they’re not nagging you about something, their life has no meaning. Little busybodies were the losers in school who tattled on everyone. Now they’re in politics and they’re out to get everybody who doesn’t agree with them. Go AWAY LEFTIES!
commented 2019-08-28 12:23:55 -0400
@ Andrew . . . more insane Propaganda . . . .

CO2 can’t warm anything Andrew . . . Temp rises and then CO2 gradually increases . . . has been doing that for Millions of years.
The Predominant GH Gas is Water Vapor . . . over 90% . . . and it is almost NEVER mentioned.
Today the Earth is Greener than at any time in memory . . . thanks to more abundant CO2 . . . if we doubled CO2 tomorrow, no one but the Petunias would notice.
Anyone who thinks .04% CO2 is a problem is a Science Illiterate!
After 30 odd years . . . AGW is still an Unproven Hypothesis !
commented 2019-08-28 12:07:24 -0400
LIZ ROSIE commented 12 hours ago
That “stinking green scum” comes from too much nitrogen and phosphates leeched into the water.,from pollen, and in some places even from the waste cities dump into our waterways."

Yes, in this case it mostly comes from poor pollution control in Winnipeg’s sewage treatment. So, dumping excessive “fertilizer” from industrial activities into ecosystems can be damaging to them?

Fires are indeed natural (although a lot of our recent outbreak is due to poor forestry practices in the past, particularly suppression, although things like the expanding range of the pine beetle due to milder winters also have an effect. The problem is, that it means that over the long term, forests are net-zero with respect to carbon, not sequestration.

The oceans do absorb a fair bit of carbon dioxide – most of it, in fact, though still not enough to offset the accumulation in the air. In the process (becoming carbonic acid) it lowers the pH of the oceans, which is troubling as insoluble carbonates dissolve when that happens. This is bad news for coral.

It would only be “social control” if alternatives weren’t available. In some cases, the alternatives are actually better than the existing technology. As for being about money, everything’s about money. Welcome to capitalism.
commented 2019-08-28 00:21:28 -0400
That “stinking green scum” comes from too much nitrogen and phosphates leeched into the water.,from pollen, and in some places even from the waste cities dump into our waterways. If you blackened the sun it wouldn’t grow either, but that would be as stupid as cutting CO2 to fix the problem.

Our carbon sinks are just fine. Fires are a natural phenomenon, and are not taking anymore or less than they always have, regardless of what Old Yeller climate alarmist Mckenna says. Fire rejuvenates a forest, fixes nitrogen into the soil and creates temporary grazing land for bear, elk, deer, moose and a multitude of smaller wildlife until it grows in again. Where I live there is evidence of extensive fire from over at least 60 years ago. I can find blackened roots and burnt bark part way up very large and still healthy trees, which is another thing, fire doesn’t always strip everything. The oceans are also a carbon sink and between the two, they do a fine job balancing the carbon dioxide levels. If they didn’t, volcanic eruptions alone would have destroyed this planet a long time ago.

None of this is about the climate. Its all about social control, a revenue stream or a tax by any other name, pillaged under the guise of reducing insignificant man made emissions which don’t make any damn difference.
If this were really about the environment we would be embracing nuclear.
This climate alarmism is about control. As Butts reminds us, its about a ‘new’ economy.
commented 2019-08-27 23:28:04 -0400
“We could benefit from more CO2 (the theory of it preceding warming has been debunked. (sorry if that comment provokes a lecture from those monetarily or spiritually invested in the cult)”
I’m curious if you realize that the observation that CO2 follows natural climate change, tells you precisely nothing about what happens if you dump a whole bunch into the air absent significant natural change, beyond the implication that the two are linked phenomena.. (historically, yes, such event have affected climate. One of the “snowball earth” events was triggered by the evolution of wood, which sequestered a whole lot of CO2).
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“We have huge carbon sinks which do a fine job of any moderating Mother Nature deems necessary. What are the misguided enviro-taxer-cultists afraid of?”
Except that the carbon sinks stopped sinking carbon when they started being on fire this often. Also, they lay on top of huge muskegs, and the potential methane emissions are a whole nother kettle of fish indeed.

“No, we do not want to return to pre-modern life and that is exactly what the globalist control freaks are working backwards to. They are going to have a hell of a fight on their hands. "

Nobody’s asking you to. We’re merely incentivizing something that’s already naturally happening; EVs, for example are better than ICEs in many ways. It will happen anyway; we’re just trying to expedite the process to reduce the environmental damage caused by obsolete equipment.

“There is never ‘too much plant food’.
‘plant food’ makes plants flourish”
I don’t think anybody that has to deal with the stinking green scum thinks that it isn’t “flourishing”. It’s a pity it kills all the fish in the process, though.

Mother nature is not immune to the basic laws of physics. If you make something absorb light, it warms up.
commented 2019-08-27 22:07:28 -0400
Andrew Stephenson:
You are correct….more is not always better….so perhaps a hiatus from the Rebel comment forum (by yourself) would contribute to balance….which is what the universe (as we know it) seems to be built on or seems to strive for.
commented 2019-08-27 14:56:39 -0400
We could benefit from more CO2 (the theory of it preceding warming has been debunked. (sorry if that comment provokes a lecture from those monetarily or spiritually invested in the cult).
We have huge carbon sinks which do a fine job of any moderating Mother Nature deems necessary. What are the misguided enviro-taxer-cultists afraid of? Too much greening of the planet or the chore of having to find a new revenue stream for their wage distribution and societal control scams?

No, we do not want to return to pre-modern life and that is exactly what the globalist control freaks are working backwards to. They are going to have a hell of a fight on their hands.

There is never ‘too much plant food’.
‘plant food’ makes plants flourish.
More plants means more oxygen as well as more carbon dioxide CONSUMPTION – since plants eat carbon dioxide to produce oxygen. You know, its called PHOTOSYNTHESIS. Its a beautiful design and works perfectly well without omnipotent men doing their damnedest to try to convince us that Mother Nature doesn’t know what the hell she is doing and now we are all going to have to live like cavemen because its all our fault.
Utter codswallop!
commented 2019-08-27 11:38:29 -0400
“CO2 is vital plant food – a naturally occurring, benign atmospheric gas that’s necessary for plant-life to survive and thrive.
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So is phosphorus, absolutely essential to all known forms of life, but ask the people living on the shores of Lake Winnipeg what happens when there’s too much “plant food”. “More” isn’t always better.
commented 2019-08-26 22:31:39 -0400
The green energy subsidy scams are over in Europe, and European countries lay in ruin in its aftermath. In Canada, with corrupt politicians and pigeons for citizens who are ripe for the picking, Canada, you’re next.
commented 2019-08-26 17:45:45 -0400
Johnny peoplekind… President Trump just gave Ezra and The Rebel a plug.. ya know??.. exposure.. Ezra can handle the rest from here on .. Cheers President Trump!
Cheers Ezra!! Go get er done Captain!!

Smile Johnny Wick(peoplekind)!! The world is reading your and Andrew Stephenson’s BS!!
commented 2019-08-26 17:30:01 -0400
Dr. Patrick Moore explains that Carbon Dioxide is the building block of all life on the planet.

Only 15 minutes, but jump to 9 min to hear his explanation of that fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYQ6eZDXXRE
commented 2019-08-26 16:32:22 -0400
CO2 is NOT pollution: Princeton’s William Happer explains why CO2 is no pollutant – Only 2 minutes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcBM5gaFEk

CO2 is vital plant food – a naturally occurring, benign atmospheric gas that’s necessary for plant-life to survive and thrive.

And since plants emit Oxygen through the process of growing – Photosynthesis (1), CO2 is also necessary for humans and mammals, even fish to exist.

Therefore, the world needs atmospheric CO2 – the gas of life!

More CO2 greens the planet and improves plant-life – only 2 minutes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lXsAo27r30

(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Photosynthesis_equation.svg
commented 2019-08-26 15:17:27 -0400
“Green energy is about money, not the climate…”

Pretty much. And power of course – never forget power.

The drum-beaters for the AGW / CC Apocalypse-pending can be divided into two camps: parasites and fools. The obvious parasites are those who have a vested interest in the maintenance and promotion of the great scare: hypocrites like Gore, Young, DiCapprio, Suzuki, turdo la doo and McKenna easily come to mind. But there are legions upon legions of government employees and agencies (Ontario’s Conservation Authorities, for example) whose very existence depends on the lies.

As an example of how deep and all-encompassing the green tentacles have become, consider this: forty percent of North America’s corn-crop is used for the subsidized production of ethanol – a process that is energy negative. This has been responsible for the clearing of hundreds of thousands of acres of forested and marginal lands that had been doing just a wonderful job as wildlife habitat. And yet many of the same farmers who complained bitterly about the insane electricity costs that resulted from McGuinty’s disastrous Green Energy Act, stood and applauded Double-cross Doug’s announcement that his Government would further increase the mandatory ethanol content in gasoline: https://www.syngenta.ca/market-news/ontario-proposing-further-increase-in-ethanol-blend

But you won’t hear turdo la doo, scheer the steer, Double-cross Doug Ford, or Kenney suggest that maybe it’s time to stop the ethanol nonsense.
commented 2019-08-26 15:11:02 -0400
Nice to see Trump has China sweating while Justin capitulates to them once again. Shows who the real leader is.
commented 2019-08-26 15:07:26 -0400
John Wick you notice Trudeau sits like he has no testicles? OR is that common in Liberals?
commented 2019-08-26 15:01:45 -0400
I am glad that i am not ignorant enough to not realize social media is highly controlled and censored thereby making it more of an echo chamber than actually SOCIAL MEDIA!
commented 2019-08-26 15:00:12 -0400
I am glad i am not a hate filled bitter joyless progressive.
commented 2019-08-26 14:59:46 -0400
Sad that John Wick is too dumb to see that Trump is more professional than Justin who talks sh&t when Trump leaves and when he is not in Trumps presence and it was funny when Trump shook everyones hand EXCEPT Trudeau LMAO!
commented 2019-08-26 14:58:18 -0400
Social Media has lots on Toronto being a shithole so i guess according to John it is gospel LMAO!
commented 2019-08-26 14:57:08 -0400
Poor John he thinks Justin is respected and he thinks that a few hate filled comments by Ezra haters is an example of social media as a whole. SAD!
commented 2019-08-26 14:55:24 -0400
Andrew Stephenson more BS from you, Nuclear actually produces wind barely produces. Your ignorance is spellbinding.
commented 2019-08-26 14:54:22 -0400
John Wick when did Trump say that? Now go run around your violent joke of a city. LMAO!
Justin is huge joke and you are just as much of a joke if you cannot see that.
commented 2019-08-26 14:00:35 -0400
John Wick:
I do not think that was Trump’s intention,at all.
I think it was a very clever way to get Ezra’s comment viewed by Trump’s large following on the internet.Trump has zero respect for Trudeau,but is not going to publicly say that.
He could,however,endorse the statement by offering a tongue-in-cheek (blatantly obvious) comment about Boy Blunder’s merits and/or positive attributes.
Trump has used this approach on numerous occasions already.It is quite effective and many of his detractors still do not recognize it.
commented 2019-08-26 12:34:17 -0400
LOL!

Trump calls Ezra Levant – Fake News, essentially and OWNS him hard.

I bet he was not expecting that, but man it is awesome and social media is tearing Ezra a new asshole over this and he is clearly not liking it. Ezra has become a punch line and people are laughing all about it.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1165764325908180992
commented 2019-08-26 12:21:50 -0400
In November of 2016 in From There to Here:

On Nuclear I wrote:
" Nuclear Power has one of the best if not the best safety record of all forms of energy. This is one of the areas where Dr. Moore’s book taught me a lot."
“The big thing I learned from Dr. Moore’s book though is that while I was always concerned about the storage of used nuclear rods, they can be reused. In each use you only use about one percent of the energy, so you can reuse them about one hundred times. After that they are only slightly radioactive and safe after about 30 years.”

On the Gravy Train I wrote:
“Also climate change is big business: For the media catastrophic climate change makes for sensational stories. For Environmental Non-Governmental Organizations (NGO’s) it helps raise donations. They tell you that the world is coming to an end, so donate so they can fight the evil villains. For Politicians, they can claim to be saving the world. One actually had the tenacity to suggest that the oceans would stop rising and the earth would heel because of his election. For Businesses, it is good to look green. For the Environmental businesses there are subsidies, guarantees, carbon credits and bail outs to be had. For Consultants and other Professionals, there is the business of advising business and NGO’s on how to navigate the rules, and obtain grants, subsidies and guarantees. For Academics and Universities, there are research grants and other public and private money to pursue. Climate Change is big business; I call it the Climate Change Gravy Train.”

http://heinzegroup.com/climate2016.htm
commented 2019-08-26 12:20:37 -0400
The simple reason is that wind is cheaper than nuclear. Pure economics. Current government financing models simply don’t support projects with such huge upfront costs, even if running them is cheap. (a trait shared with renewables, but the latter’s more reasonable unit prices make a difference).

The intent of the owners of those wind turbines is clear, when they lobby to get bigger replacement turbines exempted from the German allocation caps as “replacement” capacity rather than new.
commented 2019-08-26 11:51:28 -0400
Trudeau gives $42 billion in the BC LNG projects to China,Canadian workers have been shit on again!!! Tens of thousands of Canadian jobs handed to China,and Canadian projects being built with cheap,low grade Chinese steel. This treasonous POS PM is no doubt trying to kill the West and the Canadian economy especially when we have a recession in the way. Wake up Canada!!