June 12, 2016

Gun control calls result from Islamic terror attack

Brian LilleyArchive

Before we knew how many people were dead, before we knew why those shot and killed early Sunday morning were targeted, before the terrorist attack was even over the calls for gun control were growing louder and louder.

Sadly, now that we know this is a terrorist attack, that the man behind it is believed to be a radical Muslim, that his father said he was outraged at seeing two men kiss, the calls for gun control continue.

The left wing magazine Slate was quick to Tweet out an article damning the AR-15, the rifle used in the terrorist attack, as part of the problem. The AR-15 of course is the most commonly owned firearm in America, while it may show up at the scene of terrorist attacks and mass shootings there are literally millions of these rifles across the United States that sit idle, not involved in any crimes on any given day.

But any shooting at any time in America is an opportunity to call for greater gun control which is what people did using hashtags such as #guncontrolnow or #sandyhook to convey the need for greater restrictions on gun ownership.

A lawyer for the ACLU slammed Christians for saying their thoughts and prayers were with victims and their families, blaming Christians for creating anti-gay and anti-Islam climate.

While we are being told not to jump to conclusions about Islam, that we cannot paint an entire religion with the same brush, millions of law abiding gun owners are being smeared, there are calls for their rights and property to be taken away.


Because a man who called 9-11 and pledged allegiance to ISIS before carrying out his attack, a man who was apparently outraged at having seen two men kissing, a man who had been under FBI investigation previously over terrorist concerns walked into a gay nightclub with the sole intent of targeting people because of their sexuality. 

And for that the millions of Americans who did no such thing, who take gun safety and security seriously, who protect their family friends and neighbours need to lose their right to bear arms.

It doesn’t make any sense.

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commented 2016-06-13 20:28:59 -0400
Since a gun is a tool used on ranches everywhere to deal with predators, there actually is a use for the pensons of the world, as bait for the terrorists, so when they cut off his head, they are identified, and taken out.
commented 2016-06-13 14:19:26 -0400
Omar Scum stopped to reload multiple times and stopped to make cell phone calls at least 3 times. Plenty time for anyone with concealed carry to quickly close the distance and point- blank shoot this waste of skin in the head. It sounds easy but certainly if more people Conceal Carried the greater the probability that it could happen. Especially if 4 or 5 armed people at once attacked this turd while he was reloading . So effective training for these kinds of situations is abundantly available for people who choose to conceal carry. Sheep Dog Response (http://sheepdogresponse.com) provided by ex Special Forces,Tim Kennedy is one example. This is one way we can fight back and be prepared. I know the SJW socialist types will irrationally scream in opposition to this and choose to remain disarmed , curl up in the fetal position and allow terrorists and other criminals to calmly walk up and fill them full of bullets. In the case of Orlando , the police exacerbated the situation by waiting 3 bloody hours before they finally responded responsibly and effectively. If there only was well trained and armed citizens inside the building many lives would have been saved .
commented 2016-06-13 13:28:06 -0400
Guns don’t kill people. People kill people! A gun is an inanimate object which requires a person to activate it. That applies to any object which may be used as a weapon to kill. There needs to be a “body” behind the weapon to activate it! What do people not understand about this?
Any object may be used to kill – a stone (David and Goliath), a knife, an axe, a chainsaw, a boxcutter, a razor blade, a piece of glass, a hammer, a sharpened stick, an arrow, a screwdriver, etc. The list is endless! Those who are fixated on guns have a serious flaw in their thinking process.
What did armies use to kill before the advent of gunpowder? What did the caveman use to kill his meat? (and each other). If the desire to kill is there, a person will find a weapon to use! How many people have been killed with the use of knives recently? Why are the gun nuts not calling for a ban on knives or knife control? Wake up people.
It is sad that so many people lost their lives in this tragedy. Pointing the finger of “blame” at various groups will not solve the problem. Changing the ideology of groups of people might help, but it is extremely difficulty to bring about this change. The best answer might be a more heightened vigilance by all people of their immediate environment and of those who move through that environment.
commented 2016-06-13 11:22:05 -0400
Statement from the |Pink Pistols" (a Gay 2nd Amendment support group) “The Pink Pistols gives condolences to all family and friends of those killed and injured at Pulse,” began Patton. “This is exactly the kind of heinous act that justifies our existence. At such a time of tragedy, let us not reach for the low-hanging fruit of blaming the killer’s guns. Let us stay focused on the fact that someone hated gay people so much they were ready to kill or injure so many.

“It is difficult, if not impossible, to foresee such an event,” continues Patton, “But if they cannot be prevented, then they must be stopped as fast as someone tries to start them.”

“Some bars and other establishments that serve alcohol are difficult to protect because many states forbid the carrying of weapons where alcohol is served, but that just as one might have a designated driver who stays sober, one might have a designated carrier with a concealed-carry permit who goes armed and does not drink.”

commented 2016-06-13 11:02:08 -0400
How is it that a spouse can make a fabricated allegation of violence against their husband or wife to the police and then that person is no longer permitted to buy a firearm. But when someone is put on the terror watch list that person is still permitted buy a firearm? If Omar scum was on the terror watch list as he once was it still would not have made a difference. How is it that it took 3 hours for the police to finally go in and take out the scum when 3 hrs earlier he had already started shooting and many people lay dead and dying while the police "negotiated??. I would say tolerance to Islamic fanatical nut cases and police obeying orders not to go in were the cause of this massacre. Not a .223 semi automatic hunting rifle.
commented 2016-06-13 10:58:41 -0400
Good point Bill Elder as well as what someone else mentioned that bombs can be made out of a number of readily available products. Also interesting they are trying to spin it that he had mental problems and yet he was stable enough to be a security guard? This is the difficulty that most of the press doesn’t want to deal with. I agree not all Muslims are violent but how how are we supposed to separate those who are form those who are not? When immigrating to our country are we suppose to rely on terrorists declaring the true purpose of wanting to come here? Another persistent problem that never gets addressed in the MSM is why the left is trying to censor free speech on anyone critical or questioning Islam and are content to label it all “hate speech” and yet do absolutely nothing to prevent the ongoing hate speech by the radical Imams in our own countries. Even more deeply troubling is the questions no one is talking about. In our rush to protect everyone’s rights and protect the public from being “Islamophobic”, how do you prevent these unknown radicals from getting jobs in the military and having access to even bigger weapons of mass destruction all while the far out left puts their rights over the public?
commented 2016-06-13 10:25:47 -0400
Depriving citizens of firearms is exactly the kind of result the terrorists would want.
commented 2016-06-13 10:08:26 -0400
Gun control will not stop terrorist attacks anymore than discontinuing the use of fossil fuels will stop climate change. These beliefs are from people who cannot follow the dots between cause and effect; in Obama’s case, a dysfunction resulting from excessive use of marijuana as a youth and young adult.
commented 2016-06-13 09:58:22 -0400
Same freeking leftist rhetoric about gun control, the guy was a security guard he had the right to bear and possess arms, what you gonna do ? have security personel without arms ? the Brinks guys holding a hammer to protect the money truck ?
commented 2016-06-13 09:26:58 -0400
So I guess the gun control loonies were fine with the Paris and Brussels attacks because they were in gun free countries – this gun hater paranoia is getting stale, and we really will never get any other solution from people this stupid.
commented 2016-06-13 07:17:36 -0400
Please, people, lay off the CAPITALS!
commented 2016-06-13 04:47:23 -0400
commented 2016-06-13 00:13:41 -0400
That lawyer for the ACLU blaming Christians is of course a crackpot. If you read the comments below his tweet everyone else thought he was a nut as well. Those self righteous voices blaming Christians for Islam’s hatred and violence are growing dimmer. Pretty soon they won’t be able to get away with it because no one will be buying the bunk. It is becoming all too obvious to everyone, that Islam is the problem.
commented 2016-06-12 23:47:35 -0400
It’s unsurprising that Sean Penson’s position on gun control is the same as Communist countries. His lovingly embrace of everything Trudeau becomes a little more self explanatory as well as his silly self contradictory posts. On the plus side we should at least give him credit for acknowledging the event happened unlike one of his past episodes where he accused Ezra of being a bull shitter and making it all up. Progress even if it is only baby steps.
commented 2016-06-12 22:24:55 -0400
Sean who?
commented 2016-06-12 20:15:46 -0400
Re Sean Penson: Please don’t respond to that a-hole’s idiot comments. Just ignore everything it posts. Nothing drives one a troll more nuts than being ignored. Thanks…………..…………..
commented 2016-06-12 19:39:30 -0400
PETER NETTERVILLE; I agree. But I posted that just in case he was actually serious.
LOL. Many Liberals actually believe that tripe.
commented 2016-06-12 19:33:34 -0400
We need to ban Islam, not their weapons!
commented 2016-06-12 19:18:02 -0400
@ David Ross

I have think that Sean Penson posts the comments he does only to get a rise out of the regulars that post here which reveals a deep psychological seated need in himself to be accepted by the regulars, the conservative minded people, that post here.
commented 2016-06-12 18:59:19 -0400
SEAN PENSON; So you are saying that only criminals , police and the army can have guns? You think criminals are going to obey the law and not have guns? A disarmed law abiding public is safer against armed criminals ? So a crook breaks into your home and puts a gun to your wife’s head while he rapes your daughter and you stand there with only your cock in your hand and your head up your ass. Just how far is your head up your ass anyway?
commented 2016-06-12 18:55:03 -0400
Sean said, “Nobody, other than members of the Armed Forces or Police should have the right to guns. Absolute and unconditional gun control and regulation will keep America safe.”

Were you aware that those states in the USA that have heavy gun control have a significantly higher percentage of gun crimes than those that do not?

Sean, can I ask you three questions??

1. Do criminals obey the gun laws?

2. Are police everywhere there is the possibility of a gun crime?

3. Why are those states that allow law abiding gun owners have guns, also have significantly less crime?

Will you be mature enough to honestly answer these questions?
commented 2016-06-12 18:46:42 -0400
Nobody, other than members of the Armed Forces or Police should have the right to guns. Absolute and unconditional gun control and regulation will keep America safe.
commented 2016-06-12 18:13:33 -0400
here is what I would do the whole family and whole mosque that they attend should be on the next boat back to their hell hole American or not….too bad hang with rotten apples get plowed back into the dirt.

commented 2016-06-12 18:07:55 -0400
Leftist CBC will not allow comments on this islamic terror incident on their website.
commented 2016-06-12 17:53:52 -0400
Try to go and buy a gun and get a concealed carry permit in Florida. Very difficult .They have very strict gun controls there. Hence the higher gun crimes. Try and buy a gun and get a concealed carry permit in Chicago. Next to impossible with the toughest gun laws in United States, yet the highest rate of gun crime. Get the correlation ya bunch of dumbed-down, gun- phobic anti -gun freaks ? You all need serious psychological therapy for your irrational phobia. More guns in the hands of law abiding citizens means less crime. The stats say so.
commented 2016-06-12 17:38:24 -0400
As if the jihadis and other evil bastards will observe the ban on guns.
As if the Christians are responsible for the elevation of gays in our society.
By living in such a fantasy land from our leaders to our press to our intellectuals, we are in for some harsh lessons in reality.
commented 2016-06-12 17:29:40 -0400
Some Christians don’t want to celebrate gay marriage and they are the problem? THE ACLU IS OFF THEIR COLLECTIVE ROCKER!
commented 2016-06-12 17:20:39 -0400
The Christians are to blame.
commented 2016-06-12 17:11:45 -0400
The ACLU lawyer is just as evil as the Orlando Muslim terroristl for his hateful and ignorant and illogical comments about Christians.
commented 2016-06-12 17:01:50 -0400
One has to wonder how much the Orlando tragedy would have been reduced if patrons were licensed to carry? It would have been a lot less than 50, and if the moslem suspected patrons were carrying he likely would not have tried since moslems are cowards when it comes to this sort of thing.