February 12, 2016

Gun grabbers on the march: Liberals raise the rhetoric by pointing to meaningless stats

Brian LilleyArchive

I’ve been sounding the alarm for a while that with a friendly Liberal government in Ottawa, the gun grabbers will be on the march soon.

Justin Trudeau has said he wants more gun control - he wants hand guns and assault weapons off our streets though I’m not aware of this being an out of control problem.

The gun crime problem we do have in this country is primarily with criminals and gangs shooting up neighbourhoods. They also happen to be the kind of people who don’t and won’t register their guns.

Yes, there are more restricted handguns in Canada yet gun crimes have been going down.

Bill Blair (former Chief of Toronto Police and now a Liberal MP) said when the long gun registry was abolished, there would be “blood in the streets”. Except, there wasn’t.

Sadly, hard facts aren’t going to be what drives this policy decision but rather, worldview. This is all about taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens because, well, the government doesn’t trust the average citizen.

Elections have consequences and the result of the last election is that this new government thinks you shouldn’t have guns and it seems clear that soon they’ll be acting on enforcing that soon.


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commented 2016-02-13 17:21:42 -0500
And yet not a hint of discussion about the arms caches piling up in Canadian mosques!
commented 2016-02-13 16:33:54 -0500
Is it just me, because I honestly want to sign almost every petition The Rebel sponsors?
commented 2016-02-13 15:37:39 -0500
Wendy Cukier = kook of the highest order.
Justin Trudeau = wanabe dictator and selfie king.
Sean Pension = idiot and very low information pond scum.
commented 2016-02-13 12:45:26 -0500
Sean Pension: You are wrong. Canadians inherited the right to bear arms from England declaration of rights of 1689. The BNA act allowed for a federalist style of government different from England but we still retained the rights of the declaration after confederation. When the constitution act was passed in 1982 section 26 stated that "the Charter shall not be construed as denying the existence of any other rights and freedoms that have existed in Canada. So our right to bear arms is actually more historically ingrained than our American brothers.
commented 2016-02-13 11:48:00 -0500
Trudeau is just doing what his Muslim superiors tell him to do.

Jihad is so much easier if the Natives are disarmed.

We are now in Canadistan.
commented 2016-02-13 11:23:06 -0500
Sometimes I wish the earth would just open up and swallow Ottawa. Throw in that Wendy Cukier and her Coalition for Gun Control as well. Oh yes, and Sean can jump down the hole too…
commented 2016-02-13 10:54:43 -0500
PM “Sunny ways” can pack his “From the heart out” BS up his lying punk @ss – the old Librano fascism is back in spades and busy scheming ways to damage their ideological opponents – My God these statist twinkies sure love police state oppression.

I’m afraid political BS and perverted stats won’t cut it this time, if they intend to use the hammer of the state to punish citizens who demonstrably are not a public safety hazard, they will have to convince the SCC that BS trumps social justice – and wear the brand of a fascist regime.
commented 2016-02-13 09:44:30 -0500
first they will change the elections act and then watch how dictators take control of a country, gun control/elimination of private guns will make it easier and they will have the UN’s blessing. Most of the sheep will obey with barely a whimper and many will cheer and support the new regime .
commented 2016-02-13 08:36:55 -0500
Jim Clark sean is one of the weak scard liberals who is def to dumb to own a gun. likely wets his pants in a toy store when he sees a plastic cap gun. on the other hand he is so stupid he would likely shoot himself so there could be an upside to him owning one
commented 2016-02-13 08:34:28 -0500
no liberal laws bans or rules will force anyone to comply. Boils down to liberals are just to dumb to have guns, they don’t understand them, are terrified of them so they think everyone should be as weak and cowardly as them. Never happen ever, the gun registry didn’t work neither will any expensive hair brained scheme they come up with. Locking them all in a gov controlled armory lol ya that would be a big success, completely and totally out of touch with everywhere in Canada outside of Toronto and quebec, doubt rural quebec likes this either.
commented 2016-02-13 08:30:50 -0500

Hey bigoted jacka$$ troll the right to bear arms and the right of self-defence are universal human rights. This has nothing to do with scary Americans and I could care less about what you say my rights are. Your opinion means SFA
commented 2016-02-13 08:24:15 -0500
Mass civil disobedience. We did it before and the long gun registry died as a result. We have control. Putting a million of us in prison is logistically impossible. It is up to us. We have to live under the threat of the liberal police state for a while, as we did before. Kiss your handguns goodbye. They are registered so you never really owned them anyway. They’re really rentals. A semi-automatic ban is another matter. We will refuse this. Not we should or we must. WE WILL
commented 2016-02-13 03:24:30 -0500
No thanks, They’ll have to pry my guns out of my cold dead hands, “Ban idiots not guns!” Fuck the Liberal govt seriously!!
commented 2016-02-13 01:45:49 -0500
Sean sorry but we do not need your permission. Now go help your mom with the dishes.
commented 2016-02-13 00:29:07 -0500
SEAN PENSON, you’re a troll obviously.
It’s not for you to decide who has which rights. And people thinking that guns is the most dangerous thing in their life… well, should be treated with care and sympathy. Some people never grow up, it’s our reality unfortunately.
commented 2016-02-13 00:23:00 -0500
BILL ELDER, firstly, (if it ever happens) they will not ban it – they will just force most shooters to sell their handguns. There will be a flood of handguns on the market, they will cost 1/2 or 1/3 of today’s price or even less, and nobody will compensate you a dime because they’ll tell you that they didn’t seize your property so there is nothing to compensate.

Most likely all this will be rolled back then by the next government, but people will loose their beloved guns and loose their money.

Any action in direction of banning any guns or adding some new regulations should be met with protests. We have enough gun owners in Canada to make the authorities listen to them. But the gun owners should be as united today as it’s possible, otherwise we’ll loose.

I suggest everyone interested in hunting, shooting sports or guns collecting to become a member of CSSA or NFA or similar organization and promote it among other gun owners. Together we are much stronger. I am a gun owner for 4 years (it only became possible once I arrived to Canada – I arrived from less free country) and I’ve not been a member of any shooting sports related organization, but right after Liberals got elected I’ve signed up for CSSA membership right away.
commented 2016-02-13 00:10:37 -0500
I don’t really think any sane person should use terms “gun violence” or “gun crime” as they are purely political terms created to make people think that guns kill people and absence of guns somehow means more security and less violence.

Have you ever heard terms like “sporting equipment violence” (when somebody is being beaten with a baseball bat) or “utensil violence” (when somebody is being stabbed with a kitchen knife) or “limb violence” (when somebody is being kicked or punched)? No, and not because those items are not being used for violence (including homicides), but because they don’t sound scary.

If government actually wanted to reduce crime and accidents related to firearms, there would be a mandatory course on safety and security in schools. It would teach students to keep their eyes open and their brains working. It would teach them to safely handle knives, guns, melee weapons and dangerous substances. It would make train people’s mindset making then understand how much depends on them, making them feeling responsibility for their actions.

It would dramatically affect society, but what government wants to deal with this kind of people – educated, free, responsible and always ready to react?

And all left-winged regimes are the worst kinds of government always trying to make people as much dumb and docile as possible – we’ve seen enough examples of it to be 100% sure.

Why people still elect them? Because for many people freedom and responsibility is a burden they don’t want. They want a new phone every 6 month, many “likes” for their photos, and as much free stuff as possible. In any society there will always be all kinds of people. We should just never stop the fight for better society and for better government. And never relax too much thinking that left ideologies are dead and we have nothing to worry about.
commented 2016-02-12 23:53:28 -0500
report them stolen if you have to…please.
commented 2016-02-12 22:29:10 -0500
If you have not figured it out by now you never will.. THe police and the left want all weapons removed from the public. that is how a police state is run. NO opposition and no weapons.Total control. 1984
commented 2016-02-12 22:25:05 -0500
Brian Lilley says – “this new government thinks you shouldn’t have guns and it seems clear that soon they’ll be acting on enforcing that soon.”

They had better be prepared to compensate owners for all the property they devalue or ban through capricious regulation – there is still enough common law parity left that they must compensate for the property loss they can create.

Ban it, you just bought it.
commented 2016-02-12 22:18:50 -0500
Since Charter section 1 was enacted NOBODY in Canada has any inviolable rights – just the privileges an authoritarian state is willing to allow – fairness, reason and the protection of the individual from mob hysteria or big government malice went down the flusher with that document becoming the operative manual for the current inorganic power structure.

That said, you will only become a victim of this bureaucratic tyranny if you allow yourself to be.
commented 2016-02-12 21:33:16 -0500
Sean the average citizen does not have the right…what are you yammering about. On what basis? So those exceptional citizens have the right? Where do you dredge crap up from? Does this come naturally or do you have to think about this for a bit?
commented 2016-02-12 21:02:02 -0500
Keep those firearms hidden boys and girls

Someday you might be happy you did.

Make sure you have at least two boxes of rounds for each firearm.
commented 2016-02-12 20:27:22 -0500
Brian you quoted someone saying that restricted gun ownership had gone up since Paul Martin lost his last election or something to that affect.
I would be very interested in knowing what the restricted gun sales (handgun sales) were just after Paul Martin announced that if elected he would remove and confiscate every handgun in Canada. Do you remember that public announcement?
I do, as I was manager of a sporting goods store that sold firearms including restricted guns (hand guns).
I know that restricted gun sales went up considerably all over Canada especially in the West, the day after that announcement.
I know that my small store alone sold about six hand guns on that day – two(2) to one customer, who told us that he was buying them because the then PM Paul Martin said he would ban them if elected. That was a significant number for us as we would sell six handguns in maybe one year. Remember that the Liberals were still the government of the day, this was an election promise by Paul Martin if he got elected.
I was in contact with a friend in Edmonton at that time who told me that handguns were sold out at the store in the West Edmonton Mall until they could receive a shipment.
commented 2016-02-12 20:19:25 -0500
The average, private citizen does not have the right to have a gun. We are Canada, we are not the United States.
commented 2016-02-12 20:05:22 -0500
I’m not waiting on them so getting my PAL early March.
commented 2016-02-12 19:52:53 -0500
Many senior Liberals such as Allan Rock were on the record stating that only the military and police should be allowed to have guns, everyone else can use pitchforks I guess. I also imagine that government bodyguards would be exempt. They are just following through on the views that they have long held. We have a government that is going to go through on what they campaigned on and what they believe in. We might not recognize this nation after they are done with it.
commented 2016-02-12 19:44:16 -0500
Facts and stats are the last thing a liberal will look at. They are pathological liars. They first emote then they try to make it look like they are using rational thought to justify their emotional decisions. The stats ARE conclusive. More guns equal less crime. But since they are control freak tyrants who love to treat citizens like children they will never let the stats or the informed intrude on their made-up minds. I will never vote for any condescending half wit who thinks I can be bought with my own money. It’s high time Canadians woke up and came to the same conclusions. “Professing to wise they became fools.”
commented 2016-02-12 19:30:46 -0500
The reason the federal liberals might bring in more gun control has nothing do do with what is needed, what is right, what is common sense or what is a front burner issue. The reason liberals might bring in further gun control has only to do with zombie thinking, liberals are driven by a cookie cutter progressive agenda, much of which is now 40+ years old and go back to an era where there may have been some sort of moral or social justification for such controls. Fast forward to today, the current set of progressives have departed so far from any clearly discernible moral framework, their justification for their nonsense policy is now only rooted in some worn out old ideas from another era. Progressives only know how to grow government and over regulate…..they are COMPLETELY ALL THUMBS when it comes to creating an environment that allows a free market economy to grow.