June 18, 2015

Here's how Trudeau's election reforms would hand your voting power to party bosses

Brian LilleyArchive

Justin Trudeau has announced his plan to abolish Canada's first-past-the-post election system.

Like so many "progressive" "reforms", this one pretends to be about helping ordinary people but will simply but more power in the hands of the party elite.

"Proportional representation" sounds good, but wait until you hear how it really works...

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commented 2015-06-21 09:08:35 -0400
it could be a new TV show called “The Wizard Of Ahs Jumps The Shark”. He really does look(and sound) that desperate.
commented 2015-06-18 20:24:50 -0400
This conversation was going on in the UK. Party List Proportional Representation(PV) was rejected by voters. The election results showed it would have made little difference anyways. Instead of a conservative majority PR would have likely made a coalition of Conservatives and UKIP with 242 and 80 seats respectively. This would have been a far more interesting result IMHO. http://makewealthhistory.org/2015/06/01/the-government-that-might-have-been/ The left was quite happy with this system when it gave the “Liberals” a majority of seats with less than 50% of the popular vote. Now not so much. And concentrating more power into the hands of Party Brass is going to make elections more representative? How? The same way JT made party nominations “more open”?
commented 2015-06-18 17:57:05 -0400
Of course what he says is intended to sound pleasing to the ears of the electorate, at first blush it sounds as if we would be better represented. But as usual, what is on the dummy’s tongue is not exactly what is in the ventriloquist’s mind. I shudder at the concept of proportional representation as promulgated by political parties (or their proxies) for their own benefit. Their pitch is based on the conceit that voters would be better represented and not the political parties. Of course, it’s the opposite that is true.

I acknowledge, with just about everyone else, that there is a problem in that elected members of parliament, when combined, typically represent only about forty percent of the voting electorate, especially in a system with more than two parties. But my Dad taught me not to be a critic unless I thought I had something better to offer.

Now that we’ve established that political parties are breeding grounds for corruption and that the existing system is a barrier to democracy, here’s my offering:

Double the size of ridings but reduce the number of ridings by half.
Keep the same number of seats in parliament.
Hold an election.
The candidate with the most votes in a riding goes to Ottawa and forms a government to implement our agenda.
The candidate who comes in second in that riding goes to Ottawa and forms the opposition, to keep an eye on our government’s work ethic.

Immediately the amount voters represented in parliament goes from about forty percent to around seventy or maybe even eighty percent. Wow! A system in which a lot more votes count. It’s exciting.

Additionally, by coming in second, a moderate number of candidates who would otherwise miss the cut get the opportunity to represent us in opposition, contributing to the true spirit of proportional representation. Wow! I’m getting giddy.

Yes, the devil’s in the details. What will be the agenda of the government? Well, the hallmark of the age we live in is the transmission of information. We will determine the agenda and guide our government accordingly. Wow! Democracy. I’m getting goosebumps.

Enough for now. I know there’s lots of wrinkles, but if you’ve tolerated my rambling this far it’s much appreciated. I’m soliciting the opinion of other Rebels. Please comment.
commented 2015-06-18 15:28:03 -0400
The other day when " the little boy" said there should be equal representation of male and female MP s, i thought how can that be, MPs are elected so it is impossible to have equal number of male and female MPs.
NOW it makes sense, as Steve Harvey used to say " now you know the rest of the story" .
We don’t get to decide, they do,if " the boy" has his way
commented 2015-06-18 14:59:41 -0400
This is right in line with the Lieberals’ dictatorial wish list. Trudope confirmed it earlier when he made a statement about “admiration” for the dictatorship in China!
commented 2015-06-18 13:15:25 -0400
Brazil is considering scrapping PR, going to FPTP and ending mandatory voting.
Their current system has lead to unelected corrupt party insiders getting goodies. This is much the source of the opublic rancor over the past couple of years in Brazil
commented 2015-06-18 12:48:17 -0400
Ivan Gluscic – Trudeau is the quintessential beta male. How he has made it this far is actually awe-inspiring though. And I don’t mean that in a good way.

Proportional representation would also do away with more of the reasons that we need a proper senate. I get that a certain percentage of the voters across the country do indeed deserve some sort of representation, however, when concentrations are low in any given area (e.g. Green Party), there would be no representation of the bulk of voters if an MP was arbitrarily assigned to a district.
commented 2015-06-18 12:43:28 -0400
Ivan Gluscic: “uninspiring”……you are a much kinder person than I am describing Justin Trudeau. Cheers! :)
commented 2015-06-18 12:36:58 -0400
I could more “uh’s” than words in troodo talkin’-sh*t-blab.

The reason for “proportional representation” is to ensure that the enn-dee-pee and liberals never have to merge and can bicker their way to pushing more communist/socialist/liberal/marxist agenda.

troodo promise = a fkg lie.

and that stupid pig over at the irrational post Andrew Coyne (mentioned in vid), is a troodo groupie – his whorebag sister porked pete troodo to have a “kid on this side” back in the 70s – ah yes, the ottawa liberal corporation – party, media, banks, bell canada, cbc, ctv – all one big INBRED communist pig family
commented 2015-06-18 12:05:54 -0400
The electorate must retain control of the elected! The rights of the individual voter in deciding who represents them in Parliament should not be weakened!
commented 2015-06-18 11:24:55 -0400
I like how the Liberals loved the election process fine until they started regularly losing elections.
commented 2015-06-18 11:09:44 -0400
Good Lord… what an uninspiring speaker, that Trudeau 2.0 is.