March 15, 2016

Heroin injection sites coming to a neighbourhood near you -- as predicted

Brian LilleyArchive

Do you remember when everybody scoffed at the Conservatives during the last election for saying if we voted for the Liberals, we’d have heroin injection sites in our neighbourhoods?

The media and all the fancy people had a good laugh about that and the guy who’s now the Defense Minister commented that he couldn’t believe the Conservatives would “stoop so low” by suggesting such a thing.

Months after electing the Liberals, we’re now hearing that safe injections sites will be coming to what are essentially residential neighbourhoods in Vancouver, Ottawa and Toronto.

I don’t think most people are going to like it.

While many feel compassion for those struggling with addiction and would like to see them helped, all we’re doing with safe injection sites is aiding and abetting those who would actually benefit from treatment to help them stop using drugs.

And I’d really like it if we could stop calling them “safe” injection sites.

There’s nothing safe about injecting heroin and now, as predicted, heroin injection sites are coming to a neighbourhood near you.

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commented 2016-03-17 21:27:47 -0400
Great news guys! I’ve figured out a way to reduce the harm of domestic violence. Let’s issue boxing gloves, helmets and mouth guards to high risk couples! That way we can reduce the chance of broken jaws and broken fingers. What’s that? We aren’t enabling abusive men. We’re ensuring abused women survive until the men decide to seek help and stop beating on them. What else are we supposed to do??
commented 2016-03-17 16:03:39 -0400
There are a lot of highly paid union jobs and pensions on the “main”- line here with a new massive government bureaucracy in the works. It shouldn’t be a crime to be an addict but this whole “safe” injection model is based on international criminal activity. The humane way to deal with these addiction problems are to sentence addict criminals for their crimes and any time off for probation or good behaviour should be spent in an isolated community called “Happy Town” where they can be supplied with drugs or rehabilitation programs as well work or educational opportunities for the remainder of their confinement. Injection sites are a joke.
commented 2016-03-17 06:02:24 -0400
Ron Christensen said: “Oh no, you made me sick first! ALL drugs should be legal. All of them!”

Now you’re being honest. You don’t care about heroin addicts. You just want to use them to help push legalisation. Right?

So you’ll give them fresh needles, a nurse to look over them and slowly let them kill themselves. Then you turn around and say with a tear in you eye, “Sniff sniff, this is ALL we can do.” No one would be so cold hearted toward any one that they truly loved.

You’re a sociopath but at least you’re an honest one.
commented 2016-03-16 21:38:03 -0400
He’s not a user he’s a dealer …… Propaganda and lies.
commented 2016-03-16 20:47:05 -0400
I hope you OD on your cheap drugs, Ron Christensen, and then we’ll be done with you. You are and remain a pompous ass
commented 2016-03-16 19:17:14 -0400
PETER NETTERVILLE commented 1 day ago
Like Brian Lilley said, wouldn’t it be better to spend the money on getting these people off of heroine rather than providing sites for them to do it “safely”?

Ron Christensen will not address that particular statement from Brian.

We already have both.
commented 2016-03-16 19:16:07 -0400

Oh no, you made me sick first! ALL drugs should be legal. All of them!
commented 2016-03-16 18:59:35 -0400
Life is SWEET when you hit The Kinder-Morgan “mainline”
commented 2016-03-16 16:12:33 -0400
Take the money from this misguided initiative and put it into treatment centres. I t’s similar to the governments approach to the homeless problem. The only way to fix this will cost too many jobs in the entitlement industry and that means lost votes. That is why no politician will step forward with a common sense plan.
commented 2016-03-16 15:56:22 -0400
I am strongly against this stupid ‘health care’ initiative. And today’s comment from the most corrupt premier in Canada..that would be Kathleen Whynne? The latest propaganda from the pro side is that your neighbourhood will not even notice that it has a safe injection site. Bullocks! Really? Ever been to East Hastings In Vancouver. Thank god I sold my condo in the Lowertown neighbourhood of Ottawa because where I lived before I could almost throw a ball to the proposed site. Loved Rob Snow’s radio show yesterday (CFRA) where he suggests a renaming of Ottawa to Gotham on the Rideau complete with chill lounges (where you chill after you’ve injected), police no-go zones, brothels and shops where you can buy your favourite west coast bud. Sounds like a tourist’s paradise.
commented 2016-03-16 12:24:13 -0400
When Insite opened in Vancouver back in 2003 . . . the homeless/druggie population increased by 1000% . . . they came from as far away as Ontario. To this date Insite cannot produce ONE individual that has reformed and become a productive citizen . . . not one !
Be great to have a few operations in Montreal and Toronto . . . stop the freeloader/criminals from coming to the coast.
commented 2016-03-16 06:19:09 -0400
Our law enforcement agencies are not that foolish. If they grab every junkie that goes there, they would just be stuck with a few junkies, before they quit coming all together. If they let them go, but follow them, they will likely be able to get their hands on the occasional dealer and work their way up from there. Until the dealers make it clear to them, that they do not want them to go to these sites. A lot of the dealers will probably do this from the start. Not to mention, the junkies themselves will be suspicious of the man and do not care if it gets them a clean needle.
commented 2016-03-16 02:15:56 -0400
Sean do not act like you even go near downtown for more than a small time in a car or bus.
commented 2016-03-16 01:52:00 -0400
Sean what makes you think you know what goes on in Alberta loser? You are a pathetic twerp, now go hug your anime pillow. LMAO!
commented 2016-03-16 01:46:30 -0400
Sean that is a load of BS , stats Canada says otherwise and the city voted to an plastic bags but the province stepped in moron. Try some facts for once in your life.
commented 2016-03-16 01:32:34 -0400
Only an idiot would love to see these sites instead of places we can lock the junkies up until they either expire or kick their habits. Encouraging it is no way to treat people for their addictions.
Well Ron and Sean think it is along with the Prime Moron Justin. Yep. 3 Stooges.
commented 2016-03-16 01:12:42 -0400
The principle of harm reduction appears to be this: Do not stop people from doing that which is damaging to them. Simply find ways to make doing that which is damaging less dangerous.

So far we have reduced the risk associated with overdoses and dirty needles. In what other ways can we make heroin addiction less dangerous? What about the risk posed by adulterated heroin? Shouldn’t we also be providing addicts with pure heroin? Isn’t that compassionate?
commented 2016-03-16 00:57:27 -0400
Ron Christensen said: “These safe injection sites are not only needed but prudent. Only “high and mighty” social contards will refuse to accept that addictions are diseases. I couldn’t care less what you have to say either.”

What does accepting heroine addiction as a disease have to do with safe injection sites? When I go to my doctor for an injury or illness, he encourages me to NOT do exactly the thing(s) that lead to my injury or illness. Harm reduction, in the context of heroin addiction, is like your doctor telling you after twisting your ankle to continue to NOT work in a safe manner so long as there is a physiotherapist nearby.

“This is a wonderful alternative to having your children step on syringes in the back alley. Grow up you silly dinosaurs.” It’s either “safe” injection sites OR syringes every where? That’s a false dichotomy. Heroin possession is an offence. Police could round these people up and offer them treatment or a charge. Oh I’m being too harsh? So if you discovered your child was addicted to heroin, you WOULDN’T administer tough love and put them into treatment? “Hear honey, I got you some fresh needles and I asked my doctor friend to come and watch over you while you hit yourself up.” Oh the boundless compassion of Liberals and socialists! You make me sick.
commented 2016-03-16 00:29:55 -0400

“The number of patients on methadone has soared in recent years, climbing in Ontario alone from 3,000 in 1996 to over 50,000, almost four times the per-capita rate in the U.S.

The cost has burgeoned as well, with the Ontario Health Ministry now paying $156 million a year to support the program.

Methadone itself was a factor or cause in an average 108 deaths yearly in Ontario from 2011-14, the chief coroner’s office says."

Wonder if Wynne would care to explain the huge increase in drug addictions that need treatment in her province of Ontario over such a short span of time.

Peter Netterville commented
“Giving the heroine addicts a place to inject illegal drugs safely is like giving a depressed suicidal person a loaded gun.”

Agreed. And just think Junior was pimping legalizing pot prior to the election, and Wynne is now pushing heroine with these "heroin injection sites ", wonder if there is some Liberal motive behind keeping people addicted.
commented 2016-03-16 00:03:49 -0400
uh huh… I tripped and fell on a needle, now I’m a junkie. pitty me because I can’t control myself.
no f’n way! good thing they have a place to go where I don’t have to look at these pathetic dregs.
no sympathy for the devil here.
commented 2016-03-15 23:22:10 -0400
My point is, Andrew, that the money is better spent improving treatment centers and making more rather than helping them stay on drugs because it helps the addict rather than harming them. Even a less that perfect treatment is better than safe injections sites.
commented 2016-03-15 23:10:28 -0400
“Like Brian Lilley said, wouldn’t it be better to spend the money on getting these people off of heroine rather than providing sites for them to do it “safely”?”

Possibly, if they can find a strategy to do so but what they have tried doesn’t work. Until they figure out something that does work, it’s perhaps best to keep them from giving each other bloodborne diseases. Treating heroin addiction is far easier when the addict doesn’t have HIV.
commented 2016-03-15 22:17:20 -0400
Giving the heroine addicts a place to inject illegal drugs safely is like giving a depressed suicidal person a loaded gun.

Wouldn’t it be better to help the heroine addict get off of drugs instead of fueling their addiction?

Socialists claim conservatives are uncaring, but it certainly looks like socialists are more interested in perpetuating the problem than resolving it.
commented 2016-03-15 22:02:16 -0400
This is for safety and well being. Nothing more, nothing less.

And no, Drew W, mortality rates have drastically fallen here in VanCity.

What makes you think you know what’s going on here? You live over there in Brooks or Ponoka don’t you? Just like you were wrong about plastic bags being banned here, you are senselessly wrong about this issue. Then again, the only thing that Albertans like you enjoy in life is a jug of Alberta Springs while watching the oil slicks stream by
commented 2016-03-15 21:03:34 -0400
Peter Netterville – I think the word is “obnoxious!”
commented 2016-03-15 19:52:50 -0400
Tax dollars are better spent on addiction treatment.

Too bad there is no law that denies a welfare recipient from getting their cheque if they are using drugs.
commented 2016-03-15 19:39:43 -0400
Feed the drug addicts arsenic in their needles. Solves everything.
commented 2016-03-15 19:04:46 -0400
Like Brian Lilley said, wouldn’t it be better to spend the money on getting these people off of heroine rather than providing sites for them to do it “safely”?

Ron Christensen will not address that particular statement from Brian.
commented 2016-03-15 19:00:33 -0400
Ron Christensen said, “These safe injection sites are not only needed but prudent.”

Trust Ron to take the opposite view point intentionally regardless of how stupid it is, just to be obstinate.

If one of TheRebel staff said that gravity exists, Ron would argue the opposite. Sean Penson the same.

Why are these boneheads posting here?