December 23, 2015

It CAN be done: How to fight back against the growing “mega nanny” state

Brian LilleyArchive

I discuss the best way to spread the positives of conservatism with Alise Mills, National Director of Conservative Voice. 

Whether you’re a social conservative, a fiscal conservative, libertarian or a bit of each, we should all agree that without a thriving private sector our freedoms can and will be restricted. All Canadians would benefit by being less accepting of the “mega nanny state” we live under now. 


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commented 2015-12-26 10:18:52 -0500
Anthony Z,
I agree with your point on being skeptical of groups that focus primarily on fiscal policies. The federal Conservatives focused primarily on fiscal policies and they got knocked out. This group may be good and their ideas about reaching out to other Canadians are great ideas. However, when you start saying certain groups of people within your party should not have their concerns addressed you are cutting your support. This has been common of more fiscally minded conservatives to attempt to silence more morally conservative. After all there was a recent article about dropping the ‘religious right’ to gain a larger support base.
commented 2015-12-25 10:08:58 -0500
There is a bigger problem here in Ontario. The number of people dependent on, or getting their entitlements from the provincial government is excessively high. With a population of about 13 million, a civil service of 1.3 million, say double or 2.5 times that for dependents and or affiliates, plus the retirees, or others directly or indirectly reliant on the provincial coffers, and out of a potential electorate of maybe 8-9 million voters, there is a majority that believe they owe their livliehood in some way to the Liberals. The challenge for Conservatives is to somehow convince the people how unsustainable this situation is, without coming accross as fear mongers, or heartless monsters that will fire civil servants and cut peoples way of life. It seems until the Conservatives figure that out, no amount of Liberal largess, criminal activity, or mismanagement will be enough to defeat them.
commented 2015-12-24 18:48:07 -0500
There is probably a good reason most of us have not heard of Alice Mills nor the Conservative Voice. That’s because there isn’t a nary thing conservative about them. There is nothing conservative by focusing sole on fiscal issues which she does not seem to have a good grasp and selling out on every other issue which conservatives are currently battling in every other western nation is only a sell out. Even on fiscal issues, the conservative economist Ian Fletcher has been debunking free trade and its flawed premise of comparative advantage and proves that the successful economic powers got there through mercantilism. The leftists have there ideologies which they have all studied and pushed hard never giving an inch. Conservatives also have great thinkers such as Edmond Burke, Russell Kirk, Paul Gottfried, and Roger Scruton. We should be focusing on their ideology, building a tent and waiting for people to come. This is what the conservatives in Europe and increasingly in the USA focus on. Only there do we have a chance of saving our civilization. People are being attacked through an aggressive secularism and libertinism through the education system and media with merciless “human rights” enforcers that smash all dissent. The all out attack on Judeo Christian beliefs, an immigration system that favours possible terrorists, etc. These abuses are what resonates mostly with people now. As Gavin McInnes has said, it highly unlikely that you or your family will be directly affected by a terrorist. However, liberals affect us and our families every single day.
commented 2015-12-24 18:30:01 -0500
Andrew Stephenson, which media supported Stephen Harper? Whether Global, CBC, or the Toronto papers (Globe and Mail, Star) they all supported Trudeau as they do today. Most people will open there internet browsers with a default home page of MSN (or yahoo). Since last September every time I opened my browser with MSN they featured negative stories about Harper (Mike Duffy, niqabs, snitch lines, etc) with unflattering photos of him with a scowling face or shots from below exposing nostrils. At the same time they were all aglow with Trudeau with photogenic photos of him smiling and waving with his family and overall positive coverage. The media helped bag him this election and with 10 years of power the Conservatives did little if anything to curtail the CBC. Also, why label a media party? John Ibbitson correctly identified the group (which the Ontario and Montreal media are a par) which he termed the Laurentian elites. These are the elites that think Canada is theirs and their values are Canadian values and had a big part in bringing Harper down.
commented 2015-12-24 17:50:49 -0500
" The conservative party and the general public should take cbc to court and sue them for all the slander against the conservatives and the loss in the election"

Being critical of the incumbent government is the JOB of the media. A lot of the more partisan commentators view any dissent at all as “slanderous”, and daring suggest that even objectively dubious initiatives (eg, boutique tax cuts) by your government of choice is considered borderline treason.

Harper didn’t lose because of the media (most of which supported him anyway). He lost because his government had run its course. Further, the media, such as the CBC, are the first to report that Trudeau’s breaking election promises.
commented 2015-12-24 17:40:32 -0500
“The best way to fight nanny statism (or more accurately kleptocratic authoritarianism) is to simply not feed into it or feed from it "
You said it, BILL ELDER.
I’m getting bumper stickers made up. “Support your local Underground Economy – Vote Liberal or NDP”.
commented 2015-12-24 17:11:06 -0500

Then why don’t you cheerleader Harper for having another go by the next election?

Your declaration about Harper is surely the most brain-death description of Harper’s tenure I have yet seen. Harper is the idiot to ran to the Left in government and did everything a liberal would do. Deficits. Regulation. Interference. He governed like a liberal. Time to stop praising, because it’s utterly dishonest. Time to skewer him and run him and every other CINO out of the CPC.
commented 2015-12-24 17:07:45 -0500
Oh, you can re-brand conservatism, alright. Just take the LPC’s mission statement, paste in part of something from the NDP, and there you have it: the brand new CPC rebrand. Mission Accomplished. That’s exactly what these CINOs are going to do, and that’s what you’re going to get stuck with.
commented 2015-12-24 13:31:15 -0500
Stephen Harper barely lost the election and is still the best leader for the Conservative Party. After four years of this sorry lot of Liberals, Canadians will realize just how good a PM he was and will be glad to have him back at the helm.
commented 2015-12-24 12:47:14 -0500
Sorry, she talks a good talk but she wants to re-brand Conservatism. A re-brand isn’t what we need. The Party Politics system has failed. What we need is for Politicians to realize that they are the servants of the PEOPLE. Voting for the Party line against the will of the people, a party line that is corrupted internally is not going to work. The SYSTEM needs to be dismantled and rebuilt from scratch. Scrap Party Politics, period!!!!! People have to stop falling for the HOPE and CHANGE mantra, it is all just talk. It is time to seriously RESET politics, or kiss the North American, the old Westphalia way of life good bye. Think about it while you relax and enjoy your Christmas, give your wife and children (your family) a great big hug and kiss, take a deep breath and stand up in your corner and get ready to come out fighting even though you feel battered and bruised by the bullies, there is still some fight left. Merry Christmas!!!!
commented 2015-12-24 10:58:04 -0500
The best way to fight nanny statism (or more accurately kleptocratic authoritarianism) is to simply not feed into it or feed from it – of off grid. Don’t support it and don’t take its largess – be independent of livelihood, thinking and action. As Poland has shown us, even an uncoordinated general strike of the producers will bring a regime built on theft to its knees in short order.
commented 2015-12-24 02:30:38 -0500
I would never, ever accept Brad Wall as a Conservative leader. For one thing, he’s not conservative; he’s a centrist, which is the worst thing one can be. There is no anger in him. Worse, he appeals to the soft Liberal voters…I hate him already.

If Wall is the last hope, Canada is finished.
commented 2015-12-23 18:02:05 -0500
For Canada if we could come up with a leader similar to Rand Paul, I believe that would be the type of character that would be best for Canadian Conservatism – to be honest, unfortunately he is not interested….. Brad Wall is not totally unlike Rand Paul! But that is what Canada needs a Brad Wall type personality! Knows how business and reasoning with people works – totally loaded with common sense!
commented 2015-12-23 17:51:12 -0500
Yes, I’m all for expanding the voice of conservatism. The cbc and/or main stream media should have to give an equal voice to all political parties, especially conservatives and not be allowed to slander other parties like they did to the conservatives and Harper. Seeing as how cbc is being run by taxpayer’s money, there must be some laws that this bogus Canadian media company is breaking. The conservative party and the general public should take cbc to court and sue them for all the slander against the conservatives and the loss in the election due to all the liberal favoritism. Time to put cbc in their place, clean up the liberal propaganda machine, put them to shame just like they did to Stephen Harper and the entire conservative party.
commented 2015-12-23 17:19:42 -0500
Here’s my advice for Conservatives (note the large L): take charge of the press. Quit being a bunch of scared little rabbits who don’t have the balls to put out a straight message and don’t have the brains to anticipate the reaction and have a defence prepared in advance. Hold the press in the contempt which it deserves. Make it work for you. Turdo la First understood the press thing, so did Mike Harris, so did Rene Levesque.

I remember Dildo McDinky (McGuinty) in a debate serving up his own head on the issue of truthfulness to the hapless and hopeless John Tory, who declined the opportunity to slaughter The Rat and ran for cover instead. During the campaign, turdo la doo and the Liberals continually attacked Harper and his Party on the issue of ethics, and I was puzzled why anyone would take that kind of shit from a tit who had collected speaking fees from charities and publicly-funded institutions, while absenting himself from his Parliamentary duties.

So my advice to Conservatives: grow up, grow a set, and don’t be afraid to tell the truth. If you don’t have the balls or brains to (a) speak out about the public debt on the shoulders of future generations, (b) set the record straight on the climate change bullshit, © point out the fact that Wynne & Co. are not only dragging down Ontario, but Canada too, then you`re no different than the others.
commented 2015-12-23 17:09:58 -0500
As long as the Left own the Pulp and Electronic Media, the Conservatives will always be at a disadvantage,when it comes to exposing the Left for what they are.. We need a way to get our message to the public. The Rebel helps but we need to make it grow. We need a Think Tank that can gather peoples ideas and formulate strategies.
commented 2015-12-23 16:57:03 -0500
Lilley has got to stop interview these so called “conservative women”. There is no such thing: women are parasitic by instinct.

It’s the same thing as all the sports channels putting women on the air to talk about sports…actually, they put attractive women on the air to repeat news about sports to impress the male viewers. These male viewers are obviously distracted by the attractive sports anchors – so distracted they forget to watch the sports themselves. If Lilley thinks that this is the way to go, he’s lost his mind.

This is an obvious attempt to sell a warm and fuzzy conservatism to a largely liberal audience, who will them go out and elected CINOs who will govern as liberals. That is utterly dishonest, stupid, and mentally retarded.

May as well disband the CPC right now; it’s going nowhere, except into a merger with the Liberals. Better get there before the NDP do; there’s only so much room at that trough.
commented 2015-12-23 16:56:10 -0500
a more crooked mouth than that of the selfie PM cannot be found … only the brain can be more limp…years of experience are denied with a liberal philosophy…
commented 2015-12-23 16:13:10 -0500
Alise for PM.
commented 2015-12-23 15:30:33 -0500
Egil Lomeland- You are correct in what you said and agree with you completely. Socialists/Communists are masters at dividing and conquering by using hateful speech and pitting Canadian against Canadian. The problem with socialists/communists is that they cannot look after themselves and need the government to take control of their lives. In turn they believe that all Canadians cannot look after themselves and with the help of the MSM they are pushing that agenda. Things will change but it will take time, when you have a socialist government they eventually run out of other peoples money and the very fabric of society is dismantled, look no further than Greece and a lot of the European countries.
commented 2015-12-23 15:18:24 -0500
I just read the information on the Conservative Voice web site and I like what I see. When I think of people whom I consider true conservatives, Alise would be at the top of my list along with you, Brian. With the and initiatives like Alise’s organization, I have hope that conservativism can become main stream in Canada again. I truly believe that Canadians are mostly conservative anyway, but conservatives by nature aren’t activists, so it is good to have our voices represented by smart people. Thank you for your work.
commented 2015-12-23 14:48:31 -0500
I’ve said this many times; the conservative party are not good at countering propaganda from the left. They seem to think that common sense will prevail and that people will understand misinformation. People are swayed by propaganda (why do companies advertise?) and the more often they see a negative message the more likely they are to be swayed by it. If the opposition puts out a specific ‘fact’ we need to come down hard on it with a persuasive message which can’t be ignored. Jason Kenny, one of a few, seem to have this skill but seems to have been muted by the leadership.