April 18, 2015

How Trudeau's fiscal plan gets Canada's middle class all wrong

Brian LilleyArchive

Justin Trudeau's economic plans are based on a false premise: that the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer. But the statistics just don't show that.

Poverty is at its lowest rate in decades, according to Statistics Canada.

So what's really driving up the cost of living?

According to statistics, the trouble is the taxes we're paying.

They've gone up more than food, clothing and shelter since the 1960s.

The very taxes Trudeau wants to raise.

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commented 2015-04-19 20:58:58 -0400
Not sure Judy, but from 1961,(four yrs. into Dief’s reign) to Harper’s reign to date, there have been 34 yrs. of Liberal power and 20 yrs. of Conservative power. We know which party likes to raise taxes so , fair to say it has been a Liberal agenda.
commented 2015-04-19 20:32:20 -0400
It would be good to know how much of that tax increase of 1700% since 1961 was under the Liberals and how much under the Conservative government…are there figures for that?
commented 2015-04-19 20:19:56 -0400
I left Ontario long ago, but if I were you Randy I would get out now. If I owned property I would put it up for rent and leave the province, until things change or sell it. The sooner the people who are carrying that province leave, the sooner it will fall, and then maybe someone can pick up the pieces. Ontario will be as bankrupt as Detroit soon. Lets see how long wynne and her union pals can keep that momentum going without enough real tax dollars to keep the place afloat. I love Ontario, I was born there, and it pains me to see it go down the toilet like this. Think of what it used to be and what it is now. It is a disgrace. Lets hope Justin doesn’t get in or there won’t be any place to hide. In that scenario I will be heading to the flatlands and hope Brad Wall is still there. Some buffer at least.
commented 2015-04-19 17:47:16 -0400
The one Liberals are good at other then spending our money, is creating more government. Every time they open their mouths they add another layer of government. Look how Wynne plays the tax dollar shuffle. She first says that there will be beer in my grocery stores, then adds a 1 dollar tax to it, although paid out over 4 yrs. She says that the beer companies will eat that cost for the 1st 2 yrs. After that all bets are off. Then she says she will create a beer ombudsman to watch over this scenario. There you go! Another Liberal shuffle to create more government. There for any extra money they think they have will be eaten up and then some to this new level of government.
Are you tired of this dance called the Liberal shuffle? I know I am! What’s really disappointing is that we can’t over though this corrupt government. During the next election, if there are a number of us still here, I mean us tax payers, we should demand a recall be administered in to law, where we can vote the bums out when we have 50% plus 1 in a referendum, something like what they have in BC. What’s says you!!! Come Rebel, let’s start a revolution!
commented 2015-04-19 16:53:43 -0400
“A Liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man. That debt he proposes to pay with your money.” Translation/clarification: With apologies to the original author, “fellow man” probably really only applies to Liberal Friends/Insiders. We also know from previous Liberal Gov’ts and the current one in Ontario, Liberals have no problem spending your (tax) money.
commented 2015-04-19 14:52:55 -0400
If you followed Obama’s election and re-election campaigns you can follow Turdeau’s. First it was the book, then it was a slogan—Turdeau’s is change and hard work—then it was a media campaign—remember the stories about his family and the picture of him holding his toddler with one hand in the air (Michael Jackson was scorned for the same thing) and now it is the middle class, war on women, social justice (only if you are non-white) and climate change, no war only parkas and lots of immigration.
commented 2015-04-19 13:50:02 -0400
the only thing that zoolander knows about the middle class (if anything) is that it never has and never will include any of his family..
commented 2015-04-19 13:27:50 -0400
That Stats Can site is making my head spin, trying to find anything definitive.
But I would like to post this link for vets in crisis, http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/health/homeless

As far as I’m concerned our Vets deserve every benefit we can give them, and in Canada I think we do that pretty well.
There is a demographic in this country which have allowed themselves to be talked into believing that they are more hard done by than the last generation. That is the demographic Justin is hitting on hard. Look around, in what other country in the world are you more blessed than in Canada. We pay enough taxes to cover the social safety net. How is it we have kids whining in Ontario about no work, and we are bringing in foreign workers to fill those jobs those people don’t want to move to. Makes no sense to me. The economy has no growth at the moment, but that will change, and it won’t have anything to do with Justin getting in and raising taxes. We don’t need an even more dependant society. It just means bigger gov. Justin doesn’t know what he’s talking about, he makes it up as he goes along.
commented 2015-04-19 11:39:37 -0400
Those 1976 vs 2011 income numbers are before tax ,right? If so, it would be very interesting to see some sort of after tax number (with appropriate assumptions stated).
commented 2015-04-19 10:17:28 -0400
A Liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man. That debt he proposes to pay with your money.

It is very obvious TruDolt is as liberal as they come
commented 2015-04-19 09:38:42 -0400
Post Script: I think to sum up Trudeau family detachment from working class Canada we need only two words : “Laurentian Bourgeoisie”
commented 2015-04-19 09:23:31 -0400
Trudeau knows as much about the middle class as he does about economics – only what he has seen in the movies or heard about at some pot smokers love in. That detachment from reality doesn’t end with having no empathy with “fly over” Canada (outside Mount Royal, the royal hoser only knows the tourist attractions and upscale resorts in the hinterlands) I’ve never once seen him talk with loggers or miners or rig pigs or factory workers or fishermen or ranchers who live there. To him BC is Gastown Vancouver, Quadra Is. and, Whistler, Alberta is Banff and Jasper, Sask is an unpopulated tundra, Manitoba is just an HBC outpost, Northern Ontario, Northern Quebec and Labrador are barren places where Daddy canoes and the East coast is filled with silly people who smell like fish and talk weird.

Until you routinely visit the breadbaskets of Canada’s resource wealth and speak with the people who live from the resource industry, you have no idea of A) Canada, B) The middle class C) Canada’s economic engines D)our Environment.
commented 2015-04-19 02:14:05 -0400
this goes out to Jay N. it’s an ad. seen hundreds of them.
commented 2015-04-19 02:11:15 -0400
this goes out to Joan A. you can’t buy your way out of a povrished system. you have to work your way out. industry 100%. cut services in half. non producing people to productivity. keep what you earn. need what you spend on. educate. etc.
commented 2015-04-19 02:06:57 -0400
How many fall just above that magical $30,000 point and are just barely getting by with little to no room for additional taxes able to be budgeted?
commented 2015-04-19 02:06:03 -0400
this goes out to EL. disposable ernings died ing the 60’s for the middle class.
commented 2015-04-19 02:03:10 -0400
Liza, I looked at the link you provided about grants. This can’t be serious, can it? “This is a grant provided to low-income individuals with homes assessed above $1,050,000.” If your home is assessed at that amount how the hell are you a low-income individual. Sell the thing and move somewhere smaller and look at all the extra cash you would have. Maybe it’s a joke and I just don’t get it.
commented 2015-04-19 01:59:48 -0400
so were told that harper doesn’t like the poor. it’s about time. i hope he wipes them out. the sooner the better. i hope he raises the bar for those in need. i hope he assist them to the point they join the middle class leaving behind their hardships. cudos for the PM on this field of endevor and good luck. i’m not holding my breath ether. too many scum sucking liberals trying to kill the dreams of millions. :-)
commented 2015-04-19 01:28:57 -0400
Joan, I am a retired employee of Veteran’s Affairs….I worked there for 25 years. I have seen the turnaround times for pension claims reduced from an average of two years to about three months.

Current serving members are also covered by an insurance called SSIP (Safety Schemes in Procurement).

The notion that there are more angry veterans under the Harper regime than at any time before is……I will not mince my words….BULLSHIT.

I have read and reviewed many pension claim files from “the good old days when veterans ran the department” that on first application got a response something like….“whereas we did not find a swastika stamped on the bullet that was dug out of you we assume that you arrived at the recruiting station already shot and that your medical condition was pre-existing” followed by as many as ten years of appeal and review….that doesn’t happen any more.

I could write a book on this subject and if there is any publisher who actually gives a shit I will.
commented 2015-04-19 01:01:39 -0400
I saw the house in Outremont where Trudeau grew up. You could easily keep a mistress there without your wife finding out…it had more than twenty rooms.

There seems to be a widespread self loathing among the the bourgeois intelligencia. It is certainly prevalent among their children.

I grew up in a neighbourhood of of prefabricated war emergency housing in Halifax. The streets were not even paved until I was eight years old. I look at the split 8mm home movies from that era and I would be afraid to walk through a neighbourhood that looked like that neighbourhood today…yet we were not anywhere near the poverty level of the blacks who lived in Africville or the whites who lived in Wellington Court. Through sweat equity all of those homes are now valued in the six figure range and the neighbourhood is good by any measure.

There really is no “class struggle” in Canada….only in the wishful thinking of the bourgeois intelligencia.
commented 2015-04-18 22:28:05 -0400
Joan, The Conservative gov. maintains a very generous social safety net. If you file and are in the system you are eligible for a variety of assistance programs.
Who Qualifies As Low-Income?
If you have an individual income of $30,000 or less, or a family income of $78,000 or less you will likely qualify for most, if not all, low income grants.( To access our database of all available low-income grants here in Canada, just click on the link below.)

Read more at: http://grants.ca/personal-grants/low-income-personal-grants/

Assistance programs coming out of our keisters!

All of which we can continue to afford, if we cut and gut the feeders. Although it often seems more than generous!

Guaranteed income programs need to be really carefully monitored. Especially if Justin gets in and everybody is too stoned to get off the couch.
commented 2015-04-18 22:20:27 -0400
I have to agree with Liza, Joan. Some statistics from StatsCan would be helpful.
commented 2015-04-18 21:48:53 -0400
Taxes are choking the middle class. It drains disposable earnings, savings and initiative to work. Coupled with this there is even more ‘acceptable’ levels of tax avoidance.
commented 2015-04-18 21:03:24 -0400
You are going to have to post some stats for that Joan. I’m not buyin it.
commented 2015-04-18 20:53:43 -0400
Canada’s real poor are desperately poor, subsisting on less than $12,000 a year. Mostly poor disabled and/or veterans on welfare pending disability pension appeals.

Guaranteed income law would go a long way to assisting Canada’s real poor. Not more ghettos staffed by fat middle class Liberal oppressors.
commented 2015-04-18 20:12:33 -0400
Troodo gets exactly what he is doing. The way to control a society as a dictator (that you may find in China) is to tax everyone into poverty. It has been done in Europe already. They are fewer dominant interests to deal with this way.

This is what makes Troodo truly dangerous. We already have these socialist dictators as premiers. Troodo knows it. If Troodo runs the country it will get beyond financially ugly for families. High net worth people just run offshore again.

The good news is that not too many laws can change – Troodo will get blocked by the Conservative senate for many years to come.
commented 2015-04-18 19:01:07 -0400
Liberal ‘progressives’ like Trudeau don’t let facts get in the way of their ideology much like their embrace of global warming.
commented 2015-04-18 18:47:39 -0400
Justin is in no way interested in the middle class even though he continually spouts that. He was told to say that by his American advisors. He cannot even define the middle class. The Liberals will literally do anything, say anything, to grab power. And just how many Canadians are duped by the shiny pony.
commented 2015-04-18 18:13:55 -0400
The Liberals only ever tell people what they want them to believe. They never – and I don’t mean seldom, I mean NEVER – tell them the truth.