August 25, 2016

Which are worse? Pipeline oil spills or train wrecks?

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator

How does an oil spill compare to a train wreck when it comes to oil transport? 

Although both are unwanted disasters, they can happen.

Just last month, there was a significant spill in Saskatchewan and earlier this week a train carrying fuel derailed in Toronto.

Fortunately, disaster was avoided in that situation, but that’s not always the case as we saw in Lac Megantic.

In my video, I do a comparison and provide the facts that you wouldn’t otherwise hear about in the case of the successful clean-up of the recent Husky oil spill in Saskatchewan.

The fact of the matter is, oil can be cleaned up, but lives can’t be replaced.

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commented 2016-08-27 01:03:57 -0400
What if say something outrageous like…

When the oil runs out, the pipeline will be a very expensive, very useless piece of infrastructure. However the rails will always have a use.
commented 2016-08-26 20:05:20 -0400
@rick Plesnik
Because the derailment of the train was the fault of the oil right?

What exactly are you trying to say? Are you trying to make some sort of wussy emotional plea to refute what I said? Stop prancing around the issue and be a man.
commented 2016-08-26 18:10:23 -0400
Just so you all understand. The country shuts down without the railroad period. The incredible amount of goods that move on the rail every minute or every day of every year is staggering. Simply put, everything you use in anyway is touched by rail. That being said the safety record for rail is really incredible and improvements are being made constantly. Stop acting like liberals and demonizing 1 thing to support another. Pipe lines are the right idea for a number of reasons so discuss those merits without trashing an industry that has is and always will be an economic driving force in this country. Me and the rail workers who work our asses off every day would love it if you stopped shitting on our reputations.
commented 2016-08-26 15:42:14 -0400
CHRISTOPHER BARANICK said: “I mean… if 47 people are going to die, what the heck is the difference if they burn to death because of derailed oil transport or if they are actually on a passenger car when it derails and get crushed to death?”

Smacks of what Killary said about Benghazi!
commented 2016-08-26 14:00:39 -0400
Saudi’s buy MSM and our gov’t off…
Wikileaks has found evidence
See @stephen_taylor
commented 2016-08-26 11:49:15 -0400
Fact: Pipelines have seen a greater amount of oil spilled.
commented 2016-08-26 10:20:08 -0400
hey penson, do you use anything that runs on gas or oil ,if so how do you supply fuel to these vehicles or homes , maybe on turdo’s unicorns and fairy dust,do you understand how foolish your comment is
commented 2016-08-26 09:22:53 -0400
Nimby (not in my backyard) has been replaced with NIABY ( not in anybody’s backyard) .
commented 2016-08-26 04:06:39 -0400
They’re both bad, and both must stop!
commented 2016-08-26 03:01:43 -0400
Ask the people in Marshall Michigan about the Enbridge spill there. Enbridge tried to take the cheap way out, but finally was ordered to dredge that river. Their expenses were $1.2 billion to clean it up.

As far as leftist wanting safety, China has some horrific industrial accidents, including pipeline ones. Yet, they are leftists.
commented 2016-08-26 02:06:59 -0400
Hi Holly. The leftists refuse to see things in terms of rail versus pipes. They have this unrealistic vision of having no oil at all.
commented 2016-08-26 01:54:48 -0400
Why thank you, good sir.
commented 2016-08-26 01:48:43 -0400
I think your points about the railway are excellent.
commented 2016-08-26 01:41:10 -0400
Sorry, I was not talking to any of the commenters in particular. I’m not against oil production I think that we should produce all the oil and natural gas we can. I just think that this article in general is kind of pointless.

I mean… if 47 people are going to die, what the heck is the difference if they burn to death because of derailed oil transport or if they are actually on a passenger car when it derails and get crushed to death?

Fix the gosh darn rail system, there’s your jobs!
commented 2016-08-26 01:22:32 -0400
Actually Christopher if you read the comments no one is really arguing whether oil is moved by rail or pipeline. Before we can move it we need to produce a lot more of it. People want their jobs back.
commented 2016-08-25 23:50:47 -0400
I hope the engineers that build the pipelines are accounting for things like earthquakes and landshifts, erosion and all that jazz. I’m no expert but it seems to me that such a long pipeline will have problems related to such issues…. 100% guaranteed. Why are we content to trust our precious oil to the forces of nature?

I suppose there could be a solution. Pressure sensors at … say … 1 km intervals that if they detect pressure loss, will automatically engage emergency shut off valves… which also should be installed at 1 km intervals. Of course they whole system will have to be powered with electricity. They did install things like this already right? If they did not they may just be brain-dead. How about a spill trough or something.. oh this is looking more and more expensive if you actually start thinking of safety precautions.

Would the Lac-Magnetic disaster have been any less disastrous if it was a passenger train that derailed? … Maybe, Maybe not.

Why is this all about Rail vs. Pipeline, as if the only use for a rail system is to transport oil.
Maybe the oil companies should invest a little money into our decaying railway system? I mean it’s ALREADY THERE. The rail system…. already there! Amazing isn’t it? You could make just as many jobs (maybe even more) fixing up and modernizing something (the railway system) that has MORE THAN ONE USE. And it would probably be cheaper than building something new that only serves one purpose.

Has anyone even considered this? Or do most of you people just blindly hate on the railway system as being an antiquated thing of the past, because that may be a problem that exclusively affects Canada. Look at the rail systems of any other country… then look at ours. I am no longer proud to be Canadian, thanks guys, and it’s not only this.
commented 2016-08-25 20:39:26 -0400
If we had a PM that was worth a damn he’d be trying to get our oil to market in the cheapest ways possible and as fast as possible. Hundreds of thousands of us are layed off, no longer paying the substantial taxes we used to pay, and draining the system by using EI.

We need work, now. Unfortunately, it appears this is all being done by design and that does not bode well for this nation’s future, or the world’s.
commented 2016-08-25 20:27:46 -0400
No one has higher standards in safety and environment than Canucks. I’ve spent time in the ME/Asia and I can tell you environment, safety and lives come last. Good on us for trying to keep clean but we are the only ones worried about this nonsense. Ethics should apply to people first, environmental practices second. The rest of the planet (or in this case the majority of the worlds population in 3rd world countries and terrorist countries) do not care or exercise any ethics to people or environment. I’ve seen accidents and guys killed through bad practice, body discarded and replaced the next day. Acres of oil, sludge, garbage over the surrounding countryside. Let’s all enjoy our good ethics and keep purchasing their oil. Bring back “ethical” oil!
commented 2016-08-25 19:47:43 -0400
As long as the ecofreaks make money by treasonously destroying Canada’s economy they will continue … then there are the complete dullard environuts who don’t get anything from treasonously destroying Canada’s economy, but luckily those far less that average IQ nitwits are few and far between. Stopping the flow of money to these people is the key to shutting up the fools.
commented 2016-08-25 19:16:59 -0400
When was the last pipeline spill in Canada that killed killed 47 people? Maybe insisting on rail transport is part of the Eco-Justice Warrior ‘depopulation’ strategy.
commented 2016-08-25 19:00:17 -0400
Good report HOLLY
commented 2016-08-25 18:21:29 -0400
Considering oil is an earth mineral that naturally seeps through the sub soil and water table to the serface – crying over the small amounts in contained leakage from pipelines is like crying over methane coming from marshlands – it’s dyslexic environmentalism. Particulate pollution in the form of rainfall has a far greater impact than a little spilled oil.
commented 2016-08-25 18:17:24 -0400
Opposition to pipelines has nothing to do with safety. It is all about creating unemployment by shutting down an industry that provides good paying Jobs!
I say send all the protesters to live in tents in the middle of a Canadian Winter, say on the prairies nowhere close to a population centre and sans anything that is derived from the hated oil, like heating fuel, cell phones, winter apparel etc. That may be a harsh if not successful solution to the problem! Oh wait. Lefties are not that bright to equate their situation with their goals…………..!