If you feel like the unions bought this election, we need to talk

We are finished. I sure hope I live you see the day Jr. gets tossed.

The union dues paying members need to start finding out where their dues go to. Once that becomes public, I think we will see some changes.

I am not happy with the results but the fat lady has sung and we need to deal with what we have. If elections Canada does not deal with the Liberal Packs and the Media party, then we will have to rebuild the Conservative Party and ensure it is a palatable choice. Elections Canada, the Media Party, the Senate and the Western provinces seat allocation must be dealt with or the rift between Alberta and the other provinces may cause a serious irrevocable breach. If the rest of the provinces want Alberta Tax money, they will need to stop treating us like slaves who do the work so the rest can relax on the welfare we pay for, or Alberta may have to use “Not Withstanding” and let the spoiled brats feed themselves.
I thought Prime Minister Stephen Harper did an excellent job under the circumstances but being from Alberta will never do with BC, Ontario, Quebec or the East Coast.

Hyacinth Sorry I botched your name. After checking to see that I spelled it right (cool name by the way) the link I posted at the end jumped to the beginning of the post and I apparently didn’t erase all of it.

Hyacihttps: Most of us were being indoctrinated without realizing it. I remember playing a game in grade school which many people will remember having played without realizing why we were being taught this game. In my scenario we had a number of students who were chosen to play certain roles in an doomsday type scenario. The students chosen had a number of per-assigned occupations and we were told there had been a nuclear attack and the bomb shelter available only had a number of spaces and supplies. It was up to the rest of the students to decide who got to live and who didn’t. Little did we know this game was to teach us about values clarification. In other words the belief that all people were equal was being replaced by the belief some lives are more important than others. I was unaware of this for many years until I actually saw it in a song presented in a satirical form. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXqLt-Avbnw

Hyacinth,
That is not Communism you feel. It is the first slimy tentacles of Islam.

I agree Deborah, how a union member would vote would be their own private choice, they are not allowed to stand looking over your shoulder while you place your X. But that still does not stop the union management, leaders, whatever the terminology, from being politically active with the members’ dues. With Le Bebe in power now I highly doubt he’d do a thing to curtail their activities, after all they helped get him elected. Harper had a chance but that chance is now gone.

First off, we can clip the unions ability to illegally influence elections, and journalist should not be allowed to unionize. This is a huge conflict, as we know, this is how Junior managed to be elected, even though he is not that intelligent. If I were a union member, I would damned if I vote according to the union’s demands.

Edward, long ago I came across a film in which it explained how the Nazi organized the youth and indoctrinated them into the Nazi philosophy. I cannot remember the name of that film but I did find this in youtube which shows some of what was in the other documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn7zvv0PSbU
Even racial theory was taught in kindergarten in Germany. Get them young and still naïve and innocent. I agree with you. Indoctrination of the youth of Canada is an actuality, in the here and now.

“now we need to be diligent and pull them up by the roots,” easier said than done Deborah. I agree one can make small personal stands, i.e.; not buying a particular newspaper or watching specific channels but that is so small it does not even make a ripple. It does however make oneself feel better, a small deed is better than the grandest intention after all. I think the “root” as Le Bebe is so fond of saying is the public sector union[s] and the power that those unions can weld without fear of repercussions. I have no idea how we can change that.

The staff of the REBEL and it’s supporters are sort of like people who are into stock car racing and can strip a car down to it’s last nut and bolt and put it back together better and more efficient because they are really into cars……most people don’t know shit about cars and really don’t care to….they leave it to the experts.

It’s the same with political science ….few people are actually passionate about learning or perfecting it….they just want to cruise in the product and don’t give a damn about how the experts did it just as long as they get where they want to go. They only learn mechanics when they have no choice.

So Trudeau is an idiot….so what….he can drive that classic sports car can’t he….and if it breaks he will just…..and this I predict will be his most commonly used response when the media microphones ask him tough questions….“LET’S LEAVE THAT TO THE EXPERTS”……the unelected….but appointed… team that actually won the race….and who actually run the country….elections notwithstanding.

Hyancinth The way communism has taken hold is through the school system. Why fight a war when you can subvert from within and from the education system they then go on and are able to exert their influence on all the other areas of our life from law to journalism and the government itself. They are using the principle of train up a child in the way he should go against us. Until we can find a way to restore balance in the education system we are going to face a very unbalanced system from the bottom up.

Hyacinth – I agree, the roots of communism have taken hold, and now we need to be diligent and pull them up by the roots, wherever we find them. I find that just thinking about doing this, relieves some of the anger and stress that I feel, at having had our election hoodwinked by the lying press, yet again. I am also protesting on a personal level, by never clicking on the Calgary Herald’s or Calgary Sun’s sites again, and I will continue to throw their trashy newspapers away, instead of passing them onto others. I am so grateful for TheRebel, but I expect Kim Jong-Un, or I mean Trudeau and Barack, to try and stop the truth from being made known to the public. Expect sabotage from our government.

“It feels like communism is rearing it’s ugly head in Canada, doesn’t it?”
Feel? I say it has.

This should be a major news flash about how the unions screwed over one political party with their corruption, not a democratic process in the least. It was totally unfair and fixed. In my area there were 3 muslim liberals running and one of them just got thrown in during the last 2 weeks. All three of them were elected. A couple or all three of these were involved with the lead now get rid of Harper campaign. The results from this scam election should be thrown out and a new election should take place. As if this would ever happen, but it should. It feels like communism is rearing it’s ugly head in Canada, doesn’t it?

If only the Conservatives had sold off the CBC, that action could not have (legally) been reversed by the Liberals. They also should have banned all PAC groups, using the rationale that they were not legally funded.

Ralph Goodale Finance Minister. Change is here!

Ross, I viewed the links you provided. Some of the information was eye-opening to say the least. For years I have come across countless writings describing “democracy” as an illusion. To learn how deep political manipulation and corruption within unions actually run is shocking to say the least. If I understood correctly then my 2nd point is unfortunately unattainable (He [Harper] should have instituted strict guidelines regarding public sector unions). It appears his hands would have been definitely tied by the unions themselves. I am at a loss. What would be the answer aside from legislative banning of all public sector unions?

Peter, to cut all funding from CBC would have been a large gambit for sure, but I don’t think Harper would have been committing political suicide. There are a number, all sides of the political spectrum, that feel the monies given to CBC should be redirected to more “worthy” causes. The argument would be where those funds would end up if not at the CBC’s doorstep. Even, for arguments sake, if it was indeed political suicide (meaning he would have definitely lost the next election), it would have at least weakened the left’s strength in the coming years/decades in regards to indoctrinating the populace with propaganda, a bias. As a conservative I would have been willing to put up with a term or two if need be of another party’s reign as a form of punishment for lack of better wording IF it were because the CBC was totally shut down and unable to get future funding due to legalities before we’d get another kick at the can. You asked if that bill ever went through, I have neither heard nor found anything written about it since it was first talked about. It would be interesting to find out what happened.

“I haven’t witnessed this level of mass hysteria, and whipped up false hatred, since the days of Hitler, as witnessed and recorded through many, many war shows.”
I agree totally with you Deborah, the similarities between the past and the present developing is terrifying in more than one aspect. I feel that society as a whole had reached the apex of sensibilities that it could achieve and now is gathering momentum in descent.
“When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche

My one and only disappointment with Stephen Harper is that he didn’t defund/sell off/annihilate the cbc while he had a majority. He snoozed and lost.

Brian….They did not “buy votes” they sold messages….

That extra money was certainly a payoff for the protection of the corrupt CBC. Our tax dollars at work folks. We need to focus on taking down the CBC, and we need to do it before the next election.

I agree, Peter. The CBC should keep their biases to commentaries (like Rex Murphy) and not the news. I guess the propaganda will be spewed more smugly with all that extra funding from our hard earned money.

Marty Ashfield – yes, Harper could have been more aggressive, but you know those fools would have doubled-down with all that hatred and vitriol that they were spewing. I haven’t witnessed this level of mass hysteria, and whipped up false hatred, since the days of Hitler, as witnessed and recorded through many, many war shows. I hope and pray that each and everyone of those reporters, who lied intentionally to the public, in order to achieve there agenda, of feeding off the public trough, for their own gain, and that of their friends, are repaid for their traitorous behaviour. What goes around will come around, and I can’t wait!

I agree with LLRFU and others when they say that the conservative party did not act aggressively when dealing with the MSM, especially the CBC and the Unions. There were other areas in which they could have been a lot more aggressive. One of those areas was the attack add that kept on saying that Junior was just not ready. That implied that he would be ready some time in the future – days, weeks, months or years in the future. it should of said that he was not fit to lead the country, ever.
But more importantly Mr. Harper and his team should have gone after the MSM and the Unions like mad dogs rather than the passive approach they took. Mr. Harper did take a stand when he refused to be a part of the CBC debate, but that was not enough, it only made them ramp up their hate and biases.
Finally I still believe that the CBC should be sold! Harder to do that now with the Dolt backing them, but still doable if we push long and hard.

Hyacinth said, “In my opinion Harper screwed up on two things while in power: 1) he should have cut the taxpayer funding totally to CBC”

As much as I would love to see the CBC funding cut entirely, I think that would have ended the Conservatives at the next election, a death sentence.

“2) He should have instituted strict guidelines and penalties regarding public sector unions … "

Well, there was the bill to force open their books and make them public. Did that go through?

“History seems to repeat itself”

In regards to the CBC’s unethical bias, none of it will change until the CBC is forced to be non-partisan by penalty of law.

But as for them being completely unbiased, I tend to think that if they kept their biases to commentaries only, not news, and if those commentaries stated out front who they are biased towards and those commentaries were one for each national party, then I would be okay with the biases under those condition. Basically equality.

I use to watch the series Boston legal a few years back. Although it was left leaning I enjoy legal shows even if this particular program was far fetched and somewhat humor based it still dealt with legal issues and challenged you to consider arguments from different angles. One particular episode brought to memory an issue I had heard about from a real life similar story. A student who was listening to a conservative program at school and told by the school this wasn’t allowed. Anyhow to my surprise on the show this very liberal firm defended the young man’s freedom of speech by among other arguments brought out a recent to the time poll that showed 6 out of 7 college professors voted for John Kerry prompting the response that “liberal bias was evident in academia”. It also mentioned “the attempt to squash content in order to promote democracy”. It is understandable to me that bias is inescapable and as long as there is a level playing field you should be able to have your bias but when it comes to the CBC we deserve better than them interfering by inserting themselves into the political process in favor of any side when they are being funded by all the tax payers.

Nathan W., you missed something in your post. Brian isn’t talking about how much money each political party spent. The union ads don’t count in that accounting. If Unifor posts an ad telling it’s members and everyone else to vote Liberal, that’s not the Liberal party that’s spending the money, it’s Unifor and not counted as money spent by the party. What would the uproar be if Enbridge spent a few million on ads telling everyone to vote Conservative? I’ve seen a few ads from the oilpatch fighting against the lies that the left wing screams about it, but that’s about it. I’m with LLRFU on this. When Harper was on the campaign and had a microphone in his face, he should have called out the bias in those on the other side of the mic. He made a small effort in that direction, years ago when he stopped the ambush media practices in the hallways of the HOC. The media hates that, and we can assume it will come back. Or it won’t, but nobody will remember that it was Harper who started holding media scrums in a more organized and civilized manner. I’m surprised Harper ever gave Craig Oliver the time of day! I think one problem is the Harper government, like every one before it, was way, way, too political. They had the attitude that the media was untouchable, because if you pissed someone off it would cost you votes. I say it’s the other way around. I say if you piss off a reporter, it’s going to get you votes! And I was a reporter! Look how they did it for generations in New York. If a reporter pissed off the mayor, that reporter might as well start looking for another beat. No questions will be answered, no interviews will be given, no recognition will be given at scrums. Network wide. A few instances like that, and maybe the press will start respecting our leaders instead of controlling them. What’s the worst that could happen? The press turn against you? If you’re a Conservative politician, or a conservative at all, don’t worry. That’s already happened. If you’re the government the press will find a way to tell the public about what you’re doing, that’s what they’re good at. This “non-adversarial” approach may have cost us the election.

HYACINTH with respect to the influence of the socialist-controlled unions, Australian Trevor Loudon has revealed how that influence has dramatically-transformed U.S. politics.
Author of “The Enemies Within – Communists, Socialists and Progressives in the U.S. Congress”, Loudon has revealed that Communist-controlled unions in the U.S. control and dictate the Democrats in Congress who owe their election to the assistance of the unions. A12-minute talk by Loudon explaining how the Communist-controlled labor unions are influencing and controlling the politics of our day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqBlW0hw5eE&channel=UCJnCl9ST1-OX2wNghL2c5kw
A more recent longer version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9V05rLKfi0&channel=jenkan04

Oops, I meant “of our self proclaimed king of liars.”

Media corruption is about to increase, under the reign of self our self-proclaimed king of the liars, oops I meant Liberals. Just watch as those who are corrupt and have evil intentions for our country, jockey around for favours from the corrupt Liberal party of Canada.

Sam Young commented
The unions didn’t buy the elections. They bought the NDP and Liberals.

But isn’t that really one of the same? If the unions can manipulate or influence to some degree the circumstances surrounding an election then they have in essence bought the election (using funds from members’ dues). The unions always pick one party [conservative] to attack on the behalf of another party [liberal or NDP]. When I was a child I remember men in hard hats advocating total loyalty for the NDP (everything orange) on picket lines, brochures, etc. Nowadays their loyalty swings to either red or orange depending on which party will cater to their financial demands the most and have the best odds of winning the election. In my opinion Harper screwed up on two things while in power: 1) he should have cut the taxpayer funding totally to CBC and made it a legal sticky wicket to try to reinstate the funding by a new government. 2) He should have instituted strict guidelines and penalties regarding public sector unions who would choose to become politically involved (advertisements, attack ads, etc.) in elections (which would include their members activities – the union itself would be held accountable for the members’ political stunts). Limiting the amount of actual political monetary contributions does little to disrupt this scenario. What our society has been witness to in regards to union[s] activism during/prior to political elections (both provincially and federally) is in my opinion tantamount to outright fraudulent manipulation of the masses to cause a predetermined outcome [decided upon by the public sector union(s) heads]. Combine that with the bias we witness regularly from CBC it is unacceptable in a democratic society.

History seems to repeat itself (is it because no one learns from it?) in the context of the allowance of political manipulation by governmental funded associations and arbiters, in our day and time – i.e.: CBC and public sector unions. In the historical sense, such as in Germany, such manipulation tactics were intentionally used – Goebbels mission was to censor all opposition to Hitler and present the chancellor and the Nazi Party in the most positive light while stirring up hatred. The CBC should never have been allowed to formulate “personal” opinions period, but rather only report actual news. The CBC is using their governmental funding in the political arena which is crossing the line into manipulation (political propaganda). Same holds true with the public sector unions crossing that same line. IF we do not learn from history we (on the whole) are bound to repeat history.

Will this change under Trudeau? Perhaps someday when chickens have lips and donkeys learn to fly, but I am not going to hold my breath.