April 01, 2015

In Indiana and beyond, "social justice is merely a mask for tyranny"

Marissa SemkiwArchive

Rev. Dr. Joseph Boot talks about Indiana's Restoration of Religious Freedom Act, as well as threats to religious freedom closer to home, such as those experienced by students at Trinity Western University Law School, and the mandatory Gay/Straight Alliances in Alberta.

He says, "The state is increasingly burdening religious people, especially Christian people, in such a way that any sort of public expression or living out the practical reality of their faith in day to day life is being censured."

The only solution, he says, is a "mainstream grassroots" resistance against this trend in the United States and Canada.

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commented 2015-06-06 08:55:13 -0400
Interesting column you wrote. This again brings me to say, that the division of religion and or faith or non faith is at war here. They all feel that their rights supersede all others. This goes with Christian, Islam, Buddhists, LGBT ect.,ect., … When we segregate the populace in this way we remove the fact that we are all human. No one race or religion should have the right to force others to bend over because they feel they are superior! I see this all the time. Right now the Political Correctness is attaching Christianity because they feel that they are superior and there fore their rights supersede your rights. So yes I do wish we could all live in peace where no one has more rights then others. That we look past the colour of our skin, the clothes we wear, or the religion we practice, and just look at the fact that we are all human. We should not have the right to force others to do our bidding regardless of what we might think of ourselves. We either all have the same right, or non of us have any rights!
commented 2015-04-10 07:45:31 -0400
commented 2015-04-06 06:55:30 -0400
In reply to myself :)…while atheist, gay or Christian now has no LEGAL DEFENSE in Indiana for refusing to provide services to someone who offends their sensibilities, I guess the moot point of what I said 2 days ago is HOW WILL THE LAW BE APPLIED now, in Indiana, if an atheist, gay or Christian refuses to provide services to someone who offends their beliefs? Will the law be applied equally to each of the three or will the Christian find himself uniquely subject to punishment for the same ‘crime’ of having a conscience? Will an atheist who refuses to rent his property to a group providing church services or special spiritual retreats be permitted to refuse the ‘offending’ party that grates on his beliefs?
In British Columbia, Canada, a group that had rented a public hall for a religious meeting was cast out at the last minute by a town council because the council was offended that the group was Christian and therefore assumed to be homophobic….the group had to find a different venue just before the event. If a town council can do this who has rights anymore and are we all to be at the whim of other people’s sensibilities at the last minute, like this? https://www.cccc.org/news_blogs/barry/2014/07/04/going-nuts-in-nanaimo-over-chick-fil-a/

Fortunately, with the help of Ezra Levant and others, the city council was brought to their senses and the event went on as planned because of a firestorm of controversy that erupted…but what if the people on the speaker’s list were not famous, like Bishop Desmond Tutu and Laura Bush? What if it was John Doe and Mary Smith? Is every individual of conscience going to be allowed to disrupt the lives of others, or FORCE THEIR WILL ON OTHERS, or is it time to stop this ongoing use of the law and politics to trample the rights of others underfoot? Could we all just step back and LEARN how to tolerate others. As long as Muslim, Gay, Christian or Atheist uses the law and politics to GET THEIR OWN WAY there will be no peace….is that what we want? Are we just going to let the MOST INTRANSIGENT run our countries?
commented 2015-04-03 18:55:51 -0400
The right that this governor of Indiana brought in originally is a right for gays and lesbians as well as religious people. By the subsequent removal of the legal defense for refusing to provide services to anyone…the people who balked at the law HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE RIGHTS OF LESBIANS AND GAYS as well as Christians and EVERYONEREMOVING THEIR LIBERTY to use the law as a legal defense for refusing to provide services. So an atheist can be forced to provide services that he or she finds offensive to their ideology as can everyone…SO NOW EVERYONE LOSES FREEDOM…don’t they get it? The purpose of removing the right was intended to block Christian liberty, but by this means EVERYONE has had their liberty removed…is this not true? So Indiana has ended up with NO JUSTICE…NO LIBERTY for anyone.
commented 2015-04-03 11:26:26 -0400
This is an intriguing record of an agenda explaining much of this put forth in 1963 and read into the public record in the US Congress-shocking http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm
commented 2015-04-03 08:11:56 -0400
As you can see the RIGHT defended here has now been removed…it doesn’t matter what you believe YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO USE THE LAW AS A LEGAL DEFENSE FOR REFUSING TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ANYONE. You therefore “must participate in the wedding” or do things AGAINST YOUR WILL in Indiana in order to protect others. Therefore one party or another has LOST THEIR FREEDOM IN INDIANA.
commented 2015-04-03 08:02:18 -0400
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana Gov. Mike Pence has approved changes to new law that sparked boycotts of the state amid fears that it would allow discrimination against lesbians and gays.

Pence had asked lawmakers to clarify language in the religious objections law earlier this week as businesses canceled conventions and governments banned travel to the state. The House and Senate approved the changes Thursday after intense negotiations with business and community leaders, and Pence signed it late in the day.

The revised legislation prohibits providers from using the law as a legal defense for refusing to provide services, goods, facilities or accommodations. It also bars discrimination based on factors that include race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity or United States military service.

The law will take effect July 1.
commented 2015-04-03 03:28:45 -0400
Happy Easter, Peter.
commented 2015-04-02 23:36:57 -0400
John Matuszak, Maurice , awesome insight. Happy Easter. Freethinker, if God had to prove himself to you he would give victory to lucifer." I will put enmity between offspring of the mother and offspring of the serpent." Today we remember, Jesus taught us not to judge. Today one of you will betray me. Peter assumed it was judas but it was Peter who denied Him. Peter wept but kept his faith. Judas lost his faith and murdered himself. One went to heaven one went to hell. God exists. I can see him laughing at your concept of knowledge. Christians are persecuted for their faith. Bear your cross. Your victory will be in your persistence of sharing truth.
commented 2015-04-02 22:44:44 -0400
The alternative lifestyle folk now have unbelievable power in this country. But this has happened under the current federal government watch. The arrival of more and more Mohammedans has too at least according to slides that were shown by both Brian and Ezra awhile back.
commented 2015-04-02 21:05:05 -0400
The important distinction between homosexual marriage and interspecies marriage is that two people (yes, even two men or two women) can consent to marry each other. An animal cannot give consent, so therefore marriage to an animal is quite different than marriage to a human of the same gender.

Whoops! There goes your slippery slope argument, haters!
commented 2015-04-02 15:31:43 -0400
Great you’ve interviewed Dr. Boot. His magazine “Jubilee” is excellent to help us understand this craziness in our Western World. Thanks, Marissa.
commented 2015-04-02 14:31:48 -0400
We all have the"God spark" the ability to know what’s right from wrong and trust me when I say that there are no atheists in a fox hole. Is this really a prelude to end times it is said that you’re faith will be tested and in my lifetime I’ve never seen it tested to this level. I read in the bible somewhere that when man has discovered everything in the universe it will be to mans end that has always made me scratch my head.
commented 2015-04-02 14:16:17 -0400
FREEDOM REBEL, you say, “it won’t be long before one can legally marry their pet dog”. Well, that has already happened, last March:
Here is one better, a woman who married herself this January!:
What happens if she gets a divorce? Yikes!
Well, if it is just a matter of who or what or how many you ‘love’, then anything is possible.
With respect to “just a matter of time before…bestiality (is) made legal”, to my astonishment I discovered that bestiality was legalized in Germany in 1969, the same year that gay sex was also removed from the criminal code in that country. After that, sex with animals was only punishable if the animal was severely injured. However, it was reported in November 2012 that the German government was about to reintroduce a ban on bestiality, after pressure from animal welfare groups:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/germany-to-ban-sex-with-animals-report/story-fnddckzi-1226524544281 (Such a ban was subsequently implemented in December 2012.) Those who engage in bestiality prefer to call themselves “zoophiles”, which I presume, would characterize make me as a “zoophilephobe”.
Not surprisingly, The Globe & Mail was sympathetic to a poor zoophile’s loss of “rights”:
commented 2015-04-02 13:49:52 -0400
Thank you for that post, @johnmatuszak, I absolutely believe that too. Albert Einstein once said the only proof he needed of God’s existence was his own sense of wonder at the Universe. In other words, if God didn’t exist, and there was no higher purpose to life, and if we were all just bioelectric machines, there would be no logical reason for a sense of wonder, or even for an appreciation of beauty. We all instinctively know that our mind is so much more than our brain, and that our essence, our consciousness, our life force, while it may presently be facilitated by electrical impulses between neurons in our brain, it is not that… it is so much more than that. As C.S. Lewis once said, we do not have a soul, we ARE a soul… we have a body. I believe we all instinctively know that. Some of us just choose to ignore it.
commented 2015-04-02 13:23:01 -0400
Many words are spoken on this one but the real answer is simple. Wake up USA! Wake up Canada! “ISLAM
commented 2015-04-02 12:10:07 -0400
FREETHINKER, So, according to you, “If something cannot be scientifically quantified, it does not exist”. Does “love” or “hated” exist?
Since ‘science’, in your view, has pretty well figured everything out and is the only way to gain understanding and gives you all meaning, can you please tell me how that first life at the base of the evolutionary tree came about according to the process of evolution whereby the creation of everything “is also well explained scientifically as a natural process”
commented 2015-04-02 12:06:17 -0400
Sad news Freedom R.
Freedom thinker, I just re read your last post, and you do believe in Science modifying theories to encompass new evidence. My apologies on that note. Your last paragraph however totally ignores free will. “God” is there, man makes his own bed.
commented 2015-04-02 11:37:05 -0400
Good point Judy, its just another way to bully Christians under the guise of defending and promoting “inclusiveness”, there’s that word again.
Why is it so important Freethinker, for you to keep trying to discredit other peoples peaceful religious beliefs? You keep talking about magic and the supernatural. It sounds as if you are trying to intimidate people into giving up their faith. Its their right to have it. You clearly understand nothing about a personal spirituality.
There are many scientists, physicists who have not ruled out the existence of some kind of source energy, God, call it what you want. You think you or any scientist know it all? I don’t think so. You may also think all the science is in on climate change, I don’t believe that either.
Something that is a fact though is that our lethargy with regard to our morals, and values, the freedoms we had become accustomed to are being eroded. The void is being filled with less than what most people are willing to embrace as the norm.
commented 2015-04-02 11:16:40 -0400
Freethinker,when he sits all alone,with no distractions in his most quiet moments is not an atheist.He knows what may be known about God is plain to him, because God has made it plain to him. For since the creation of the world ,God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—has been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people ,including Freethinker are without excuse. But although Freethinker knows God, he has neither glorified him as God nor has he given thanks to him and his thinking has become futile and his foolish heart is now dark. Although he claims to be wise, he is a fool and God has given him over to the sinful desires of his heart and now his mind is depraved.This is the fate that is cast in stone for all Liberals and all Liberal societies – depraved minds ,where good becomes evil and evil good.
commented 2015-04-02 10:47:11 -0400
How naive are the law societies that stifle TWU students. Where do they think all the CHRISTIAN students will go? Do they really believe that TWU is indoctrinating them? Of course not…they ALREADY BELIEVE what they believe. All the students that move from TWU to other universities will continue to believe as they do…all that has been accomplished is that TWU will not get the money or have the legal courses. But the lawyers who are Christian will still be in Canada or they will attend American Christian Law Schools and the best we can expect is that they come back from Indiana, etc. with an intense desire to bring in American type laws of LIBERTY like those under discussion in Indiana…So the law societies have just driven them over to a MORE liberty-strong way of life…and we can pray they will return and stir up Canada n the future….thank you Joe Boot…I hope this is the beginning of a strong tie with therebel.media and Marissa Semkiw…a good intellectual pairing!
commented 2015-04-02 10:42:58 -0400
Suzanne, you obviously do not understand scientific theory… in science a “Theory” represents the absolute best and most accurate understanding of whatever being described in the “theory”… it is backed by evidence and is peer reviewed and published. The beauty of the scientific method of analysis is that if more information becomes available, scientific theories are modified to encompass new evidence and facts. It is a self correcting method of finding out the true nature of the universe. It’s theories continually get better and better. Humans, especially scientists would balk at your statement that we know everything, that’s a close minded argument that has no place in understanding the universe. However, it is always acceptable in science to say we don’t know. Humans shouldn’t make claims for which there is no reason or evidence to back them. Religious beliefs in the supernatural fall directly in this hole as no-one has provided any evidence to support their claims. As i have stated before, a study of the history and changes in religion clearly indicate that it is nothing more than a man-made concept put forward to the masses without providing any supporting evidence. The fact that religions can’t produce anything at all to support claims of the supernaturel should be setting off alarm bells that something just isn’t right about religion. Any entity who cared about humans and had supernatural talents would not have silently stood by and done absolutely nothing during some of the atrocities that man-kind has committed. If such a creature did exist, then it is either uncaring, has no real power or is in a yet undiscovered realm that has no interaction with our reality…. all of which render it USELESS to humankind.
commented 2015-04-02 10:28:44 -0400
@freethinker. You suggest that faith is believing without proper proof or reasoning however faith is the far more reasonable premise to the origin of the universe than no God. I will demonstrate this quite easily. Premise 1 Everything that begins to exist must have a cause. Premise 2 The universe began to exist. There is scientific evidence for this (Red Shift). Premise 3 Since the universe began to exist it must have a cause. This argument is presented quite wonderfully and in much more depth by philosopher William Lane Craig if you wish to watch him debate leading atheist thinkers on Youtube.
commented 2015-04-02 10:27:28 -0400
Ian, whether or not you believe God exists for you or anyone else doesn’t matter. I suspect you may have grown up in an atmosphere of Judeo-Christian values. My mother said she couldn’t believe in God, but still polished and cleaned the church with the other ladies where I went to Sunday school every week, because she wanted me to go. I’m not suggesting that you went to church every week. I don’t attend church anymore, and consider what I believe a private matter, but I will identify as a Christian every time, without hesitation. It is how I was brought up, in a country founded on those principals. It has been the downfall of my generation to have let our children come to adulthood with out a proper understanding of what that really means. Immigration on fire hasn’t helped. We are a country fast losing our identity. Christianity is disrespected, disregarded, and we all can see what has happened in that vacuum.
commented 2015-04-02 09:25:05 -0400
Wow Maurice, thank you for that. A theory is just that, a theory. Many scientific theories have been disproved over time and new ones have had to be advanced. Even the ones that are currently accepted will eventually have to be amended. Humans think they have discovered everything there is to know about life, but wait 20 years….
commented 2015-04-02 09:00:54 -0400
Good post Maurice!
commented 2015-04-02 08:16:36 -0400
If we define religion as a nexus of values , then we can clearly see that it is precisely the underlying values that are being attacked. The leftists ,sometimes described as progressives and secularists , have managed to destroy many of the core values in our culture and society. We used to value the family unit. No longer , replaced by any number of units with phoney names like “nuclear” family. The marriage between a man and a woman. Gone. Sexuality? We no longer have man and woman. Replaced by a non -definition of sexuality, a spectrum of mental states of mind over the physical attributes mother nature gave us. Truth, honour, integrity – old values that religions extolled, replaced by what? If you destroy the house, then you have destroyed the values contained within. And what will they be replaced with? Well probably you will find out , day by day , as Obama uses his pen and his phone. The daily whim and caprice of despotic rule.
commented 2015-04-02 07:52:20 -0400
I’ve loved listening to Joe Booth’s clear, intelligent arguments since I first saw him on Michael Coren’s original TV show. Marissa Semkiw, Joe Booth, could we get more of this, please.
commented 2015-04-02 06:58:01 -0400
Written by Hayek, “The Road To Serfdom” is the playbook of the socialists. Amazing that socialist tactics haven’t changed since written about in the 1940s. One thing is certain, whatever a socialist calls it, you know it’s the opposite or worse.
commented 2015-04-02 05:58:00 -0400
Freethinker, here we go again on this hobby horse of yours. We get it! You’re an Atheist! I’m not! So sue me! I believe I have just as much intelligence and insight into the nature of the Universe as you have. Let me get this straight, if something cannot be proven scientifically, it doesn’t exist. Does that mean that before dark matter and black holes were discovered they didn’t exist? What else hasn’t been discovered yet? Do those things yet to be discovered, not exist now, but will begin to exist at some future date? Your claim isn’t just asinine, it’s logically incoherent. It seems to me that the more we discover in science, the more we discover how little we really know. Darwinian evolution has been all but disproven. But conventional science cannot and will not accept that because it flies in the face of scientific consensus. Science is advanced by experimentation and evidence, not by consensus. PHD’s Dr. John Sanford along with his college Dr. A Carter, conducted a three year study on the “evolution” of the influenza virus’ beginning with the fully sequenced genome of the virus in 1918, and studying its development through 2009. There was no progress in the virus development through natural selection, but rather a complete regression of the virus, with so many mutations that the virus lost 13% of its original genome and disappeared off the map. I realizes that this was just one study, and the results were not the results they were expecting, but it still repudiates increased complexity through evolution and natural selection, and confirms the second law of thermodynamics. Here’s the definition of scientific verification I got from google: “Scientific evidence is evidence which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and in accordance with scientific methodology. Standards for scientific evidence vary according to the field of inquiry, but the strength of scientific evidence is generally based on the results of statistical analysis and scientific controls. So scientific verification is a method or procedure that characterizes natural science, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of theories or hypotheses. A person’s assumptions or beliefs about the relationship between observations and a hypothesis will affect whether that person takes the observations as evidence. So these assumptions or beliefs will also affect how a person utilizes the observations as evidence.” So even in this definition of the scientific verification process, the writer acknowledges that subjectivity is involved when interpreting evidence. If you want to stick to the scientific definition of evidence, then you must disregard what I find to be the most compelling evidence of all; eye witness accounts and personal experiences. You can’t scientifically prove that Beethoven or Shakespeare ever existed, or that Abraham Lincoln was ever President of the United States. All you have is eye witness accounts; damned good eye witness accounts, a whole lot of eye witness accounts, but eye witness accounts none the less. And to dismiss personal experience as irrelevant and the delusional ravings of some lunatic, just because you didn’t have them, is arrogant beyond belief. I don’t know where you live, but let’s assume it’s in a large city. If you walk out of a building in that city, into a back alley, and you get stomped and kicked by a muskox, I could give you all kinds of really good reasons why you didn’t. Muskox are a creature of the northern tundra… there are no muskox in your city… you didn’t get stomped and kicked by a muskox. But if it happened to you, it wouldn’t matter what anyone else thought, you’d still know what you know, and if you know what musk ox looks like you’d know that you were stomped and kicked by one. You’d probably just stop talking about it. So when you get on your high horse, you’re up against both eye witness accounts and personal experiences, and you’re going to lose. People know what they know, and you, being a people, know what you know, but you don’t know what other people know. By the way, I came to my Christian faith through scientific investigation, as did many Christian scientists. The trouble with the Bible is that we look at it as book written in English. That wasn’t how the Bible came about. First of all, the Bible isn’t a book, it’s a library; 66 books in the Protestant Bible and 73 books in the Catholic Bible, written by at least 40 different authors, over a period of about 1600 years. The old testament was written in ancient Hebrew with a smattering of Aramaic, and the new testament was written in first century Greek. Translations into English may be accurate as far as they go, but cannot be precise, as no translation from one language to another is ever exact. So everything in the Bible must be read in context, taking the culture and the original language into consideration. However, this is what convinced me; 354 prophecies in the old testament starting back 1600 years before the birth of Jesus, all fulfilled in Him. The mathematical probability of that happening is 1 in 10 to the 87th power. That’s equivalent to winning the lottery 15 times in a row, buying 1 ticket each time. When you start looking at the fine tuning of the Universe that is required to sustain human life , the mathematical probability becomes even more ridiculous, in fact much more ridiculous. Unless of course there is an intelligence behind it. So the most logical and plausible conclusion, as far as I can see, is that God created the Universe for a reason. You don’t have to believe that, and I would fight to defend your right not to believe that. But if I’m right, we’ll both find out one day, won’t we? Unfortunately, if you’re right, we’ll never find out, because if we’re nothing but bioelectric machines, we will simply cease to function one day, never knowing the difference.