August 27, 2015

In tight Canadian race, left wing parties resort to attacking each other; hilarity ensues

Brian LilleyArchive

Have you seen the way the NDP and Liberals are attacking each other?

The left wing parties have finally figured out that they are fighting each other as much as they are fighting Stephen Harper and the Conservatives and the results…..I have to say they are funny to watch.

Thursday morning I got this email from the Liberals sent under the name of Marco Mendicino, their candidate for Eglington-Lawrence, that is the Toronto area riding held by finance minister Joe Oliver. But the news release didn’t attack Oliver, it attacked the NDP, Tom Mulcair and Mulcair’s candidate in the area, Andrew Thomson.

“Mulcair’s Handpicked Candidate Andrew Thomson Calls Cuts “Inevitable” – what will NDP cut first?”

That was the headline, the Liberals want you to believe that the NDP if elected will gut government services.

Are they for real?

They think so, on Wednesday they sent out a news release talking about the NDP and austerity.

“Mulcair’s austerity pledge and phony middle class rhetoric don’t add up”

What is Mulcair’s austerity pledge? That he said he would balance the budget, something Justin Trudeau used to say but doesn’t anymore.

The release then has a long quote from Toronto Liberal MP Chrystia Freeland which says, “Thomas Mulcair talks a lot about looking out for average Canadians, but his only path to a balanced budget so quickly is massive cuts and backing away from the NDP’s spending promises. The choice in this election is between jobs and growth or austerity and cuts.”

And on the campaign trail with cameras rolling, Trudeau started taking shots at Mulcair, the man he has lost his left wing votes to.

Meanwhile the NDP are firing back.

They point out that Trudeau has had many positions on balancing the budget and then, sounding like the Conservatives who say he isn’t ready, the NDP say Trudeau isn’t up to the job. Here's the headline: NDP REALITY CHECK: ON BALANCING THE BUDGET, JUSTIN TRUDEAU DOESN'T KNOW WHERE HE STANDS

In November 2008, during the economic crisis, Trudeau said there was no need to run deficits:

“…it could have defended the interests of Canadians, while at the same time being in a position to generate a budget surplus.”

In November 2010 Trudeau criticized the Conservatives for spending too much:

“The Conservatives managed to put Canada into deficit even before the global recession hit, by increasing government spending by 18% in their first three budgets.”

In February 2011 Trudeau said:

“Mr. Speaker, we are looking at a $56 billion deficit, yet Conservatives want to borrow another $6 billion just to give Canada's wealthiest corporations a tax break they obviously do not need…”

In February 2014 Trudeau said:

“The budget will balance itself.”

January 21, 2015 CTV reported:

“Justin Trudeau won't say if he thinks the federal government should abandon its commitment to a balanced budget.”

April 22, 2015 Trudeau said: “Our platform will be fully costed, fiscally responsible and a balanced budget.”

August 7, 2015 Trudeau said:

"We are committed to [a] balanced budget. But how long it takes to get there will depend on the size of the mess Mr. Harper has left behind."

When asked today to clarify Trudeau refused to clarify his budget plans:

“I've said clearly we're committed to investing in Canadians…We'll have an awful lot more to say about that in the coming days.”

Like I said, watching this battle between the two lefty leaders is fun. But it speaks to a tight race, one in which all three parties have to battle each other, no longer is it just the two top parties that trade jabs, it is all of them.


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commented 2015-08-28 22:32:14 -0400
People that vote for a Leftist party have it really easy—— there are only 2 choices- Take your pick—- The one that is attempting to Fool you OR The one that is going to Fuck you.
commented 2015-08-28 17:11:03 -0400
Thank you Hyacinth.
Jimmy, click on the link. There are alternative views that MSM does not inform Canadians about. Clearly, Suzuki looks like the idiot that he is in Australia. Do you not think Canadians deserve to see these views. If Suzuki looked good, the CBC would have made sure that every one of their viewers would have seen how good Suzuki was. This is why I call the CBC a left wing propaganda machine.
So when Jimmy says that Harper muzzles scientists. I say MSM has done a lot of things to Jimmy’s brain. Way worse than muzzling. Ezra Levant made some compelling insinuations about Suzuki being a pedophile. He showed compelling evidence about an e-mail of Suzuki specifically requesting young girls. Why didn’t the CBC or other MSM even mention these allegations. Not even something to refute Mr. Levant. It would be hard to refute e-mail evidence The CBC interviewed Michael Spragg to comment on the election. His wife is running for the NDP. What is going to take to convince Jimmy that he is a gullible victim of left wing propaganda
commented 2015-08-28 13:43:10 -0400
Brian, it is a joke to watch the NDP and liberals to campaign on the economy. Canadians will see this and give the Conservatives another majority.
Re Jimmy’s 10 reasons;
If Bill C-51 prevents one bus from exploding at the hands of a terrorist. It will be worth it. God forbid, Jimmy, if your son is on that bus. Will it take that bus exploding for you to appreciate Bill C-51. Again, I say, God Forbid. We are living in a very different world today. Bill C-51 is imperative.

Liberal and NDP ideologies are failing all over the world. Greeces government that put them in their predicament. It was a NDP style government. If we had NDP or Liberals in power the past ten years. We would not be in a condition as good as we have now. Why do you think Ontario’s credit rating dropped?

Income splitting promotes family values. If income splitting gives the opportunity for a mom to stay home and raise children instead of working. To me, it is priceless. Jimmy, 95% of our prisoners come from dysfunctional families. Are all you socialists that stupid not to see a socialist policy when you are given one?

“Seven consecutive deficits” The NDP and Liberal attempts to take on Mr. Harper on the economy is laughable. Anybody who doesn’t understand this is ignorant. Our debt to GDP ratio is what the government can have some say in. Our recession is caused by global events. If Mulcair was in power the past decade. He would not have been able to avoid this downturn in the economy. And what would Canada’s debt to GDP ratio be if Mulcair was in power? Again I say LOOK AT GREECE. And we all know how Paul Martin balanced his budgets.

It is MSM that keeps Canadians unaware of the truth about our environment. You should go and look at how stupid Suzuki looked at a debate in Australia a few years ago. Sorry, I don’t have the computer skills to post it.

Speaking of Suzuki. Does Jimmy think it is OK for Charities to spend money and campaign. What becomes of the word " CHARITY". Suzuki is a criminal in my books

The first nations problems are not all with what the government is doing. They must resolve issues within their nations first. Corruption, for example. However, I do feel bad about the state that natives live in. Especially when I live on a land that was once theirs.

No comment on the gun registry from me. I just don’t know enough about it.
commented 2015-08-28 13:33:24 -0400
Jay Kelly . . . . the Quebec PMs amassed 1/2 Trillion of DEBT between 1970 and 2004 . . .
Chretien and Martin balanced the budget in the 90s on the BACKS of Canadians and Provinces . . .
Thanks to the Conservatives Canada is one of the FEW countries on the planet today that is not starring down a Negative Debt to GDP ratio.
commented 2015-08-28 08:08:37 -0400
Jay, I remember being taught this in Public Administration class back in the early eighties. Deficits are something that magically disappear at the stroke of a pen when some “genius” finance minister raises some unpopular tax by as little as 1%….and I lived to see exactly that played out. The budgetary surplus period was the fruit of over taxation. Continuing that depends on wether or not you think the government will do better things for the economy with it than citizens will if they get to keep it.

Deficits that are created by overspending are much harder to rectify than the ones created by applying the brakes and limiting budgetary expansion.

Harper defunded “toxic masculinity” research in “gender studies” programs. We will be funding that again if he is defeated.
commented 2015-08-28 00:33:47 -0400
Getting back to Brian Lilley’s commentary, describing the competition between the NDP and the Liberals as “funny” is unsettling at this stage. It is like Stephen Harper laughing when comparing Trudeau’s “tiny little deficits” to the huge Conservative deficits of the past eight years. Laughter is best used when things are going your way.
commented 2015-08-27 23:20:40 -0400
Glenn, it’s good to hear the truth about veterans affairs, from someone who knows. Main news outlets are so misleading.
commented 2015-08-27 22:44:25 -0400
Jimmy …I worked for Veterans Affairs for 25 years…….your list of Harper’s crimes is bullshit….those offices should have been closed years ago….Harper cleaned a very cluttered house .

The legal bill you stated was a pittance compared to what the liberals spent on the Authorson Class action (which the spouse of a Liberal senator owns the law firm) .

And the Liberals were inclined to fight the Agent Orange attempt at class action (again against Tony Merchant) which the Tories settled “ex gratia” (out of court with generous benefit of doubt)

The staff cuts were calculated and protracted years before the tories came to power….I was warned of their impending inevitability when I transferred to headquarters.

Fact is Veterans Affairs is winding down…..the few surviving WW2 veterans are in their nineties . We took a little over 100 dead in ten years in Afghanistan……we took that many daily in WW1.

I have seen times when the staff at Saint Anne de Bellvue out numbered the patients.

Jimmy if I were you I would drop number 3 from your list……you are way out of you league in terms of knowing what you are talking about
commented 2015-08-27 22:09:19 -0400
Don’ycha know, Keith? Jimmy has told us he is married and is a doctor. Must not do much doctorin’ through because he is posting on theRebel all throughout the day. Oh well, he probably is a brain surgeon or something else high level like that because he is just so darn smart!
commented 2015-08-27 22:04:58 -0400
JIMMY, Just out of interest, what Grade are you in? Assuming, of course, that you have Grade Schools in Pakistan.
commented 2015-08-27 21:45:44 -0400
Federal Conservatives, I should have said.
commented 2015-08-27 21:43:16 -0400
The Conservatives always lead in Alberta? Bwahahahaha! Tell that to Notley.
commented 2015-08-27 21:41:08 -0400
Jimmy – What do you forecast will happen if a) Liberals win a minority with i) Conservatives second or with ii) NDP second; b) NDP wins a minority with i) Liberals second or with ii) Conservatives second; or c) Conservatives win a minority with i) Liberals second or with ii) NDP second?

How would each of those affect Canada over the next ten years?

Patrick Brown will have no problem whatsoever winning his seat in Ontario.
commented 2015-08-27 21:39:28 -0400
Peter Netterville commented 11 mins ago
Jimmy said, "The post is getting screwed up again. "

No, it is just the one doing the posting that is screwed up.

Hear hear !!
commented 2015-08-27 21:39:00 -0400
That poll is no real news. The Conservatives always lead in Alberta.
commented 2015-08-27 21:38:00 -0400
Jimmy Da Silva commented 37 mins ago

You are right – John Tory was at the top of the polls and Doug Ford was second – but Doug Ford became mayor of Toronto.

Oh wait…

Hey Jimmy Da Bigot, I didn’t blog that but hey seems you are into being an a-hole on most articles.
commented 2015-08-27 21:36:55 -0400
Jimmy said, “Peter, Feel free to debate each of the 10 points.”

What is the point. Really, what is the point. The only one here to convince ,you, has already drunk the koolaid and closed off your mind to any counter points.

I neither have the time nor the inclination to debate you on points that I know you will never change you mind on.
commented 2015-08-27 21:35:22 -0400
Hey Jimmy Da Bigot talking your propaganda points again I see. Go back to the CBC.
commented 2015-08-27 21:30:06 -0400

Feel free to debate each of the 10 points.
commented 2015-08-27 21:28:03 -0400
What plans have you all made if Stephen Harper loses? Move to Texas? What is your backup plan if Canada goes Liberal or NDP?
commented 2015-08-27 21:27:02 -0400
Jimmy said, "The post is getting screwed up again. "

No, it is just the one doing the posting that is screwed up.
commented 2015-08-27 21:26:06 -0400
Jimmy posts, "10 Reasons to Vote for Anyone but Harper "

Problem is, Jimmy, there is no one else to vote for other than Harper.