Ipsos poll confirms Liberals “off-side” with Canadian public: Majority want vote on HOW we vote

It just infuriates me that this is happening. Why is this child anti Canadian Muslim with no political experience even allowed to speak? Why is she in a position of power? How long has she been in the country for gods sakes. She was on her way back to Afghanistan so what happened?

Sean Penson squeals – “I don’t understand everyone’s hissy fit. Justin promised this issue, though the media largely ignored it.”

So seeing how a majority didn’t vote for your girlfriend, and those who did may not have voted for this poorly publicised platform plank, reason dictates there is a certainty that going ahead without a plebiscite on this issue is a breech of public will – he has no legitimate mandate on this specific issue – only one way to find out what people really want, ask them directly.

But Liberals will never be forthright with the public because it is not in their well established aristocratic top-down ruling model.

Looks like she just picked Sohi’s nose. Sally Sharia fronting Butts “take over the country for good” scheme!! I’m not one of the 12 million tweets, don’t have a twitter account. Could someone please tweet her for me and tell her to fuck off. Thanks

DJBT,STPC and Justin’s cabinet

“Now Sean, we all understand you have wet dreams at night of Justin, but can you really say that you want the Liberals to be in power forever?”

Peter, we all know how Sean would answer that if he had the courage to respond to your post. His answer would be “YES” while jumping up and down in excitement at that thought whilst wetting himself in the process.

Sean Penson said, “I don’t understand everyone’s hissy fit.”

People here, and the majority of Canadian by a large margin (73%), are upset because the Liberals are not giving the people the final say by means of a referendum.

Only 39% of the voters voted for the Liberals and it even appears some of them are concerned about not having a final say on the change of how we vote in our government.

Now Sean, we all understand you have wet dreams at night of Justin, but can you really say that you want the Liberals to be in power forever?

They are going to change the system to their advantage so that they have a higher likelihood of being elected into office each election. Are you fine with that?

I am not sure why I am asking you. You do not seem able to carry on an intelligent conversation.

“like many liberals, she’s a liar.”

Many? All Liberal politicians are liars. A liberal is a liberal is a liberal, no matter the level of government or department within the government.
They continually put into practice:
- insincere apologies when caught red handed
- false indignation when the need arises
- put harebrained ideas into action and policy
- play the Pass The Buck Game when it comes to taking responsibility for their actions/policies.

Speaking of false indignation:
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/ontario-liberal-to-apologize-for-calling-cops-on-mom-protesting-cuts-to-autism-therapy
Premier Kathleen Wynne has told a Liberal backbencher to apologize for calling the police on the mother of an autistic child who had threatened a protest at his constituency office
Damage control eh Whinny? Doesn’t pass the mustard, too little too late.

Such nice caring Liberals, they really care about Canadians! [sarcasm]

Robert says “like many liberals, she’s a liar.” She’s a Muslim liberal attempting to usurp our democracy so it goes double. All libs should be required to be hooked up to a polygraph while sitting in parliament.

Let me get this straight , this twat is saying 12 million Canadians (1 in 3 ) looked at a tweet from her and the Liberals ?
I call bullsh*t on that !
http://www.statista.com/statistics/303875/number-of-twitter-users-canada/
Like many Liberals , she’s a liar .

Her and Justin are willfully committing treason and are extremely well versed and practiced in the art of “al-taqiyya”. Both have committed to Islam through the reciting of the Shahadah, and therefore, will utilize lies and deceit, at all cost, in order to fulfill their allegiance to Islam. Observing both of their behaviors would only make sense in this context. Tyranny is in our mist and knocking on freedom’s door!

Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and “Allah” will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their “holy” books.

So, 12M people looked at that tweet, so what, that doesn’t mean they don’t want a referendum. She says she wants those who don’t vote to be part of this conversation because it’s the 21st century, but they don’t want a referendum. In other words talk all you want but we’ll decide on what system to use no matter what you have to say about it. She’s blathering from both sides of her mouth. Nice going lady, how did you get elected?

A 30-year old Afghan woman that was tasked to change the way we vote, sure as hell she knows a lot about elections.

I don’t understand everyone’s hissy fit. Justin promised this issue, though the media largely ignored it. He won his mandate, and he is fulfilling his promises.

Worst case scenario, is that we have a different voting system imposed on us for a few elections, but we could eventually change it back. Just give it a try! What could really happen? At the outset, the Conservatives would have to move more to the left to attract urban voters. At worst, the Liberals will be in office for a generation or more.

The Canadian voter traded Harper and voted for Trudeau!
You think the Canadian voter is now smart enough to understand electoral reform? Some how I don’t think so.

That should read “It doesn’t SEEM possible”. Man, I wish there was an edit function!

It doesn’t possible to me that in our constitutional democracy, a change to how that democratic process works, without a referendum, or all the provincial and territorial governments on board, could POSSIBLY stand up to a Supreme Court challenge!? That just doesn’t make any sense! That’s precisely how Hitler gained dictatorial power in Germany. Surely, the opposition will challenge it through the Courts!? I would be completely shocked if they didn’t.

Wannabe dictator Justin Trudeau is defying the will of the people, to rig future elections to favor the Liberals.

Canadians must defy the will of wannabe dictator Justin Trudeau and stop him from pulling this electoral scam on us!

Of course he will ignore, that’s what ignorant people do.
How did that burka poll at citizenship ceremonies work for him ?
Hope the newly crowned royal couple of Canada enjoy their anniversary in Japan. Please, please use some form of contraception, we really have too many trudeaus already

Sean, you poor demented man. A majority of Canadians didn’t vote for the Liberals. Just because you have the hots for Justin, doesn’t mean they were “lovingly” elected. Get yerself a life boy and put yer wank mags away…

The 27% that disagree are likely the trolls with all their aliases! I predict the Liebranos will ignore this in their quest for a dictatorship. We’ve already seen how Trudope reacts when he feels he is not getting his way! Some line like a “significant” majority like the trolls spout will be floated as the reason to ignore Canadians. Only way this will end it seems is a rebellion, financial, or otherwise. Sad!

This issue was part of the Liberal Party’s campaign platform, when they were lovingly elected last October. The Conservatives were opposed to changing the voting system. Who won? Who lost? This story is ended.

The idea that any ruling party would change the rules of the game in the name of fairness is ludicrous . The Liberals are power hungry and will do anything to maintain that power. So whatever scheme they come up with, it will be to their advantage. Most probably a permanent advantage. For all intents and purposes, tyrannical rule.

So if the Liberals ram through a ranked-ballot voting system and there are seven candidates on my ballot, do I get to rank the Liberal candidate seventh?
Bring it on, Junior.

That old saying about the best argument against democracy is a conversation with a voter, is so apropos here.

What this poll shows is a logical contradiction. First, a small majority of voters say they want to change the voting system however, then they want to ratify their change by a referendum which is the very voting system they say they want changed?

This displays to me, that the system we have is perfect, it allows plurality with a clear winner based on majority support. Those too uninterested or stupid to vote intelligently will stay home and don’t skew the outcome from informed voters. It’s the “stupid” vote the left are after – this is why they want to make it mandatory for dummies to vote, and then give them confusing ballot options which always favor unpopular choices.

I think this is a serious enough assault on true democracy that parliament should not cooperate in passing a unilateral change to our democratic system by walking out of the house.

This whole thing is over the top. First we can’t even stir up the senate without every province being on board but the government can change the voting system at their whim. What sane person could possibly put any trust in the liberals to not put their self interest ahead of Canadians. Please. If they ram this through without a referendum it will be the most grevious and undemocratic action ever perpetuated on the citizens of this country.

FYI On October 10, 2007, Ontario held a referendum on whether to adopt a Mixed Member Proportional system of elections. The proposed system failed with 63% voting for the status quo in favour of First-Past-the-Post. See Ontario electoral reform referendum, 2007 for more information. This was the first referendum in that province since 1924 when a referendum on prohibition was held.

The disturbing thing about all of this is that Sonny Boy doesn’t have to give us a referendum if he doesn’t want to do so. He could just ram a law through even though 61% of Canadians voted for parties other than has. Even with 73% of the public opposed to making a change without a referendum, there is nothing that forces him to consult us: if he’s willing to risk the backlash at the next election, he’s free to do it. Frankly, I see little reason for him to worry about the next election, especially if he acts quickly. The Liberals will assume that whatever short-term anger there is about a change that has been rammed through, it will have all blown over by the time we have the next election.

These realities are what convince me that a change to the system is required. No single party, even a majority government, should have the power to fundamentally change the system on its own initiative.

Personally, I think the Swiss have the right idea with multiple referenda every year. As I understand it, anyone who can summon up 100,000 supporters to put an idea forward is granted a binding referendum at which people can vote for or against the idea. You don’t have to be a leading member of the largest party (or coalition) to put an idea forward that actually has a chance to being adopted. You don’t even have to be a member of a political party. Imagine you or me putting forward a good idea and then having it adopted by our fellow Canadians without any concern for the views of our parliamentarians!

From just a cursory reading of electoral systems, ‘first past the post’ works best with 2 parties. I can imagine that those surveyed who thought our present system lacked fairness. For example, the Green party has ranged from 3-13% of the popular vote, but has only ever elected 1 MP. The other major issue is geographic seat distribution which ensures smaller communities get a say in ‘issues’ that matter to their geographic region.
I believe a referendum is the fairest way to change the electoral system; however it is a very complicated issue and I would be the first to admit that I do not feel qualified to vote on which system is best suited for Canada. Generally, referendum questions are between 2 choices such as yes/no or in/out etc. How could Canadians be expected to choose between the status-quo and some new system. There are so many flavours of systems. What metrics would be used to explain the pros and cons.

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And in other news, Mississauga bans Uber.

Isn’t this just another fine example of how librano pigs (yes, there is one running Mississauga) wreck this country with “buggy whip mentalities” and dictatorial habits.

And you fucking idiot Canadians keep voting for these vermin.

And now all you alcoholics can pay $100 for your 2 mile ride home in a unionized cab – or drive drunk, as you probably will.

At the same time the boomers realized that the liberals were crooks; they have been brainwashing the generations that came after, with their lies and deceptions about socialism. We need to get rid of the unions out of our schools, so that the intelligence level can rise. Many of these flakey teachers shouldn’t be anywhere near children. They are indoctrinating our kids, and not teaching them anything that they will need in the real world.

I can’t remember the last time any liberal cared for what Canadians wanted.