March 28, 2017

Is a paintball gun a firearm? More reasons to question #FakeNews from flawed study

Brian LilleyArchive

I told you about a study in the Canadian Medical Association Journal by the Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences pushing a gun control agenda, one which the mainstream media happily spread without questioning a thing since the claims were made by “experts”.

I identified some big problems with it, including the timing of the release of the Canadian Paediatric Society’s guidelines to members citing the same flawed study, urging members to pry into the business of families who own guns.

But after I wrapped the first video, I found another major problem.

Their definition of firearm. Watch as I explain why this study is essentially useless.

Don’t fall for fake news, question everything to determine if it holds up. I’d say this study definitely doesn’t.

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commented 2017-03-29 23:58:20 -0400
Over the years my experience with anti gunners is that they don’t want guns in our society but they love going to the movies to see the most violent shoot-em up gun extravaganzas that are produced. And many of them enjoy playing those violent video games where there is a lot of gunfire involved. Yet they refer to legal firearm owners/users as gun nuts, I think they are the sick ones. These anti gun advocates I have been aware of, seem to enjoy violence in their entertainment and gun ownership is not about violence, it’s about discipline, responsibility and respect. And there is no end to such bogus studies as this one where they are able to fudge the figures and get away with it. This is not only a crime that they are committing, in that they are deliberately misleading the public with tainted documentation. It would be the same as if they falsified the results of a drug study and then put a dangerous medication on the market for consumption. As well, this kind of misrepresentation is fear mongering which further creates a division among the population on the issue of gun ownership. A division that is created without the benefit of facts being the main ingredient in the argument.
commented 2017-03-29 14:59:26 -0400
How many of these “children” aged 18-25 that were injured were drunk or stoned while playing paintball or just screwing around at a backyard barbecue with friends? Also, how many were gang members using ILLEGAL hand guns to settle a turf war? These researchers should release all data if they want to be taken seriously.
commented 2017-03-29 13:00:41 -0400
I should have stated that was a pellet rifle.
commented 2017-03-29 12:51:06 -0400
Glenn Craig; The neighbor kid shot my kid in the cheek so I can testify to the survivability of that scenario. Just a red mark, not even a welt. The eye would not of been good, but all turned out well. The kid got supreme shit and we remained friends.
commented 2017-03-29 10:48:17 -0400
To the anti-firearms crowd it does not matter whether the study is factual or not. Irrelevant.

Many who oppose firearms appeal to emotions to push their anti-gun agenda, not facts. Facts be damned, they are frightened of firearms and the people that use them so they appeal to masses using the emotion of fear to jam their agenda down out throats.

And ya know what? It works. Much of the masses make decisions based upon emotions.
commented 2017-03-29 10:21:49 -0400
Correction on previous post..the European guideline for ten meter air rifles is in metric but it works out to approximately 540 feet per second just above the Canadian limit. There are air rifles rated in the 500 meter per second and these are legitamately rated as firearms as the heavy weight pellets designed for them make the guns as effective as a .22 cal rimfire out to about 100 yards.

Brandishing an air pistol to bluff police or rival gang members is a very foolish thing to do and is just as illegal as brandishing a real gun.

Wherever there is a black market that supplies drugs there is also a black market that supplies illegal fire arms. No amount of restrictive gun laws reduces this , in fact it makes matters worse. Mexico has the strictest gun laws on the planet and one of the highest rates of gun related crime . Juarez Mexico and El Paso Texas are right across from each other on the border. Juarez is a war zone and El Passo the highest rate of gun ownership in the USA yet the lowest murder rate in the US. There is no comparison in crime or gun related violence.
commented 2017-03-29 07:56:32 -0400
So many socialists and so little time.
commented 2017-03-29 04:18:54 -0400
Pretty soon shooting an elastic band will be considered the same as firing a gun.
commented 2017-03-29 02:15:32 -0400
Even worse than guns are drawings of guns, just ask the progressives.
commented 2017-03-29 02:14:34 -0400
Demonize those evil guns so people will not defend themselves against wannabe tyrants.
commented 2017-03-29 00:25:36 -0400
Very interesting what John Lott had to say about this – back in 2007, in the US…

From:
Guns Don’t Kill Kids, Irresponsible Adults With Guns Do

“Should your doctor ask your child if you own a gun?
Guidelines issued by the American Academy of Pediatric say “yes.”…"

“…Accidental gun deaths among children are fortunately much rarer than most people believe. Consider the following numbers…”

“…Fear about guns also seems greatest among those who know the least about them…”

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/FoxNewsDoctorsGuns101007.html

I got a copy of one of his books after seeing him on THEREBEL;
THE WAR ON GUNS: Arming Yourself Against Gun Control Lies”
John R. Lott, Jr. Ph.D.

Arm Yourself!
commented 2017-03-29 00:16:15 -0400
Pellet guns should ALWAYS be used by children under direct adult supervision.

AIRSOFT are plastic BBs at a velocity not likely to cause harm provided eye protection is worn. It is no doubt possible to cause harm if you do “jackass” stunts and try deliberately to find that limit.

Every year in Canada there are between 800 and 1400 emergency room visits that are golf related. Evertying from cart rollovers to temper tantrums with golf clubs. How many liberals would still have possession of their golf clubs if that required their wife’s written permission? How many if that required their ex’s written permission?

The two groups in Canada that are the most militant in their opposition to gun ownership are feminists and divorce lawyers….I cannot imagine why that might be….:-)
commented 2017-03-29 00:15:29 -0400
The guideline in Canada for ten meter air rifles is 500 feet per second. In Europe it is 500 meters persecond so you actually need a firearms license to buy a European gun. A ridiculous requirement but you have to draw a line somewhere. At that muzzle energy you can put standard industrial safety glasses available for under $10 or any commonly available sunglasses with LEXAN polycabonate lenses inches away from the muzzle and fire at them diliberately and the pellet will not even scratch or marr the glasses. At 10 meters if the pellet hits a solid obstruction like an embedded nail in the target set up and the pellet richochetts 180 degrees back at the shooter. there is not enough energy left in the pellet to even penetrate a cotton T-shirt . It would be unpleasant to be struck in the cheek but it is not likely to draw blood or require medical attention. All of this I know from experience having fired thousands of .177 caliber pellets at that range.
commented 2017-03-28 22:47:36 -0400
Bill Elder, I totally agree. Years ago, we made a potato gun / launcher. Our neighbour was upset to learn it wasn’t considered a firearm based on the speed the potato travelled….he thought the police officer was lying to him!
commented 2017-03-28 21:37:49 -0400
Unless the paintball gun is capable of firing a projectile at 502 ft. per/sec.and capable of causing serious bodily harm or death – it is NOT a firearm – the same holds true for pellet and BB guns so if they ignored this LEGAL criteria of a firearm they are lying though their BSing rotten teeth,
commented 2017-03-28 20:23:30 -0400
It will not be to long, before all Canadian Civilians are disarmed.

Cutting of someone’s head with a carving knife, is a lot easier if the victim dose not own a 357 Magnum.
commented 2017-03-28 20:01:41 -0400
Very interesting report Brian. Just proves that these anti-gun morons and their bullshit studies are nothing but propaganda. They write the report and then do a study to manipulate facts to try and prove their point. Disgraceful.
commented 2017-03-28 19:26:29 -0400
Probably the authors are deciding paint ball, BB guns and air rifles are gateway devices to evil,bad gun powder fire arms. Like deciding vap’ing needs to be banned because it is supposedly a gateway to evil, bad tobacco.

Funny, these medical experts no longer de-cry marijuana as a gate way drug, and Baby Doc is pushing the introduction of that legislation to occur 4/20. Go figure.
commented 2017-03-28 19:25:26 -0400
I saw this fake news article yesterday and realized it was just more anti-gun propaganda probably supported and pushed by the Coalition for gun control. I think the problem is that these medical people are connected emotionally and do not think logically or rationally. They have a fear of guns and believe their anti-gun stance is one of moral supremacy and only they hold the moral high ground and that everyone else who does not stand with them is wrong. With their anti-gun agenda they go fishing for things to back up their claims, even if those things are not really connected. They also make broad claims and use fear to frighten people. I think they are also using exceptions rather than the rule. There is nor doubt that firearms are dangerous if not handled properly. But it is not rocket science. I suppose that same study could substitute the word “automobile” for gun and get the same results. So in their world, families should not own cars but instead take public transit. The anti-gun people seem to be ignorant fanatical zealots who are on a crusade to save us from ourselves. It is not easy to combat fanaticism.
commented 2017-03-28 19:14:40 -0400
Excellent report Brian. Please tell me you will send a report with your findings to Pediatric Society and the Canadian Medical Association.
commented 2017-03-28 19:13:46 -0400
Then let’s start banning things that are much more dangerous!

Levitt & Dubner “Freakonomics” ISBN 0060731338, P.150 … Analyzes the prevalence of guns in the USA vs. backyard swimming pools … Child deaths (accidental shootings vs. accidental drownings), are less than 1 in a 1,000,000 based on the number of guns, are 1 in 11,000 based on the the number of backyard swimming pools. On an occurrence basis, the backyard swimming pool is at least 100 times more lethal to children than guns are. Where is the lobby to BAN the backyard swimming pool? Ever head of it? Neither have I. Ergo, this is all ideological baffle-gab and has nothing to do with actual concern for children’s welfare or safety.
commented 2017-03-28 18:42:26 -0400
Great work as always Brian, keep peeling that onion. When I read the headline I knew it was fake news as did anybody with half a brain.
commented 2017-03-28 18:40:45 -0400
I have gone on record many times that this is fake news but no one listens to me as I do not have an “esteemed platform” like the media – blathering away about this story.

In fact I do not know any medical researchers who could be considered experts in this field of firearms.

Almost anything is a “gun” to those who never handle them.

Well done Brian. We need more like you.

Cheers
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