February 08, 2016

Is Canada in a combat mission against ISIS or not? How politics obscures the answer to a simple question

Brian LilleyArchive

I continue to try to parse the semantics in Justin Trudeau’s statements about Canada’s role in the fight against ISIS. He’s not making it easy. 

Neither is Chief of Defence Staff Jonthan Vance.

And really, even the previous Harper government refused to say what we were doing in Iraq was a combat mission.

I don’t know why we’re so afraid to say that we’re fighting ISIS.  It’s coming from both our political and military leadership but make no mistake that Canada is engaged in fighting a terrorist threat.

But, the fact that we can’t say that and say it clearly, should be cause for concern.


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commented 2016-02-09 18:03:53 -0500
My Canada includes Canadians. Trudeau’s, not so much. It seems to me that Justin is more concerned about the people who get here tomorrow than the people whose families have been here for generations. How do you spell treason again?
commented 2016-02-09 14:51:11 -0500
SEAN PENSON commented 19 hours ago
Whether we are or not in or out isn’t is the question or not. But why Harper got us involved in the first place! Canada is Canada, not what Harper wanted.
If this is the Canada you envision, I want you out. Your shortsighted view of the world is scary. We (not Harper) offered what little help Canada could provide to stop this misogynist, homophobic group. Now our PM is sounding more like Obama: refusing to name the enemy as well as refusing to call this a combat mission. I would not want to be in charge of this charade. Sean, you might have a different view of the situation if you were a woman instead of a faux-feminist like Jussy.
commented 2016-02-09 12:27:26 -0500
Mr Penson, the reason why ISIS is the boogeyperson of the hour is because of where they are operating. Yes indeed there have been worse rogue groups that were not our fight….the African militias during the Cold War proxy wars did all manner of atrocity up to and including cannibalism…..but they didn’t do it while sitting on the tap of our oil supply.

And if the Trudeau government really wanted to make this “not our fight” ….then they should stop opposing the pipe lines that would take us out of the market for middle eastern oil once and for all.
commented 2016-02-09 11:29:40 -0500
Pension: It is laughable you think you can determine who is a “real” Canadian. So much for Trudeau’s inclusiveness which seems to only apply to like minded extremists. You are correct about one thing despite the liberals rhetoric they won’t listen to anyone just like they accused Harper of doing.
commented 2016-02-09 11:16:56 -0500
Pension: . There has already been Isis inspired terrorism on Canadian soil not to mention the ones they have inspired to leave Canada and go join their pathetic cause. For you to not acknowledge this renders you incapable of critical evaluation.
commented 2016-02-09 01:30:49 -0500
SEAN PENSON= F O O L ! That’s why your in love with Turdeau, birds of a feather flock together. Now flock off back to CBC.
commented 2016-02-09 01:23:30 -0500
Clearly the General contradicted himself with that statement. Even the military brass now seem to be afraid to say the word combat. What is a soldier? My definition is a person who signs up to be trained to fight the enemy if need be & who will be using various weapons to do so. Does a soldier go into the military to learn how to distribute parkas & blankets?. NO, NO,NO.
Trudeau says ……as I promised to Canadians…..I did not ask you to promise me anything & certainly not asked you to make us unsafe, so stop with the B.S.. So what is it with the left that we cannot put the military in harm’s way ever, even to defend the country & it’s citizens, so why even have a military. That is not why our troops signed up & they are being insulted by Trudeau.
Sheldon Berg…..loved your post.
Sean Penson…..what rock did you just crawl out from under. Why don’t you post your idiotic comments at CBC, YOU MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.
commented 2016-02-09 00:01:13 -0500
Sent to me by a colleague who lives in Sydney Australia:

The RCMP reported finding a man’s body in Steveston, near the mouth of the Fraser River.

The dead man’s name will not be released until his family has been notified.

The victim apparently drowned due to excessive beer consumption.

He was wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a pink G-string, a strap-on dildo, purple lipstick, a ‘Trudeau for PM’ T-shirt, and ……. a cucumber stuck in his rectum.

The police removed the Trudeau T-shirt to spare his family any unnecessary embarrassment.
commented 2016-02-08 23:05:09 -0500
Jobin, the Liberals say that IS isn’t a threat! That must be believed l. Why would Canada’s undefeatable political party dare listen to the likes of you? You’re not a real Canadian; you’re not a joke justified Canadian, a real Liberal Canadian
commented 2016-02-08 22:46:25 -0500
Sean Penson;
Let the Harper bashing begin. Did you know Harper hates children!? He wouldn’t even hug his teenage son on TV! He is only interested in big oil and so rammed through all those pipeline projects and banned French and abortion. You may not know this but Stephen Harper is a not so distant relative of Hitler, Genghis Khan, Nero, and Sadaam Hussein. Harper prevented the cure from the common cold. They have a cure for the common cold but Stephen Harper flushed the formula down the toilet along with Justin Trudeeaus Teaching diploma. Stephen Harper is responsible for global warming, racism, the Toronto Maple Leafs dismal Stanley Cup prospects, and George Strumblebumblness being on HNIC. I can’t believe that Stephen Harper was PM of Canada. Now we have Mr. Uh oh, eh, um, er uh, we need to engage and er uh, um eh, for all Canadians, and a bunch of other vague benal platitudes interrupted by a stream of er, um, eh, ahh, ahh …
commented 2016-02-08 22:38:48 -0500
Sean Pension: Isis made a threat against Canada before we got involved and we were invited by the ones who were elected in Iraq. We don’t need your permission to defend our interests.
commented 2016-02-08 22:34:22 -0500
Out biggest threat is the Muslims, to whom Trudeau is giving Canada.

Why cannot he do some thing useful for Canada, like become deceased?
commented 2016-02-08 22:33:38 -0500
Canadians have been fighting with the Kurds for over a decade. fyi
commented 2016-02-08 22:31:23 -0500
Brian, The PMO is a Pussy’s, that is why.
commented 2016-02-08 22:14:32 -0500
So Canadians are going to teach the Kurds how to fight. The Kurds learn how to fight when they are 6 years old, or they don’t survive in that hell hole of the world. Oh Well, some people voted in the Liberals.
commented 2016-02-08 21:06:12 -0500
I don’t see the big problem with Canada fighting Isis. Are they not a threat to us? Of course it would make much more sense if Trudumb weren’t bringing more of them in. But that’s the liberal way. Ugh
commented 2016-02-08 21:00:09 -0500
Charlton, Hilary will be President, not a Republican. The Democrats will continue to reward our new government
commented 2016-02-08 20:59:11 -0500
like I said before liberals cannot do simple math!!! trudeau says he will triple our troops from 650 to 830….. buuut triple 650 is liiiike 1950 … now I am pretty sure of this, but I only have my grade 10, but I don,t have my drama teacher certificate. maybe that’s the difference!!!!!!!
commented 2016-02-08 19:55:51 -0500
Might as well train dolphins than those neanderthals
commented 2016-02-08 19:51:46 -0500
Sean Penson you’re such a mindless asshole!
We are. Still in a military role as advisors. If any of the top 3 Republicans become President, they will put Trudeau over their knee and spank him soundly.
We can call Trudeau a war monger like he did Harper. Sick little bastard.
commented 2016-02-08 19:43:09 -0500
Some of these comments are so dumb, just saying. With this decision today guess we are now sitting at the kids’ table at any international discussions and we are persona non grata as far as our allies are concerned.
commented 2016-02-08 19:20:57 -0500
Whether we are or not in or out isn’t is the question or not. But why Harper got us involved in the first place! Canada is Canada, not what Harper wanted.
commented 2016-02-08 19:07:26 -0500
Demarais is the largest shareholder of Total Fina – France’s state controlled oil company. UN oil for food took oil from Iraq and shipped it to Total Fina as sub market prices – UN wins because France wins and Demarais ordered Chretien to not participate in the Iraq war.

Why is this important? Because Trudeau is effectively doing the same thing. Yes, there is no UN for oil program to steal from Iraqi’s, but oil is leaving Iraq and backing a US mission obstructs Demarais oil grab.

And so boy Trudeau steps in the way. Justin, there are many Canadians that hate your fkg guts!!!! Just saying.
commented 2016-02-08 19:03:14 -0500
Trudope is going to get Canadians killed and then will blame his “predecessor” with full fanfare from the Communist Broadcast Corp!
commented 2016-02-08 18:27:55 -0500
Just heard Trudeau say the “victims of Isis don’t need us raining our wrath down upon them”. So is this a criticism of our allies who we are going to help refuel so they can rain wrath down on the victims? He was better off when he didn’t try to explain his “unique” outlook on the situation.