January 21, 2017

Is Justin Trudeau’s carbon tax plan illegal?

Brian LilleyArchive

Those opposed to a carbon tax being imposed by Justin Trudeau and the Liberals have a new reason to hope.

Secret documents show the government has been told Trudeau's plan may well be illegal.

Watch as I explain, and remember to sign and share our petition at StopTheCarbonTax.com.

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commented 2017-01-23 13:20:35 -0500
double wifferdil inverted rectalits again cameron?
commented 2017-01-23 11:09:17 -0500
When your cause is that important laws mean nothing.
commented 2017-01-23 10:02:25 -0500
#alternativefacts. I brad and I have this document that says this. But I can’t show it to the news reporters. But I swear it says this.
Politicking and not governing. Bradley has bankrupted Saskatchewan.
commented 2017-01-23 07:17:59 -0500
Our Problem is that each province needs equal representation as in each province get the same number of MP’s. as Ontario and Quebec with 121 and 78 seats I believe, with the liberals capable of taking170 of those seat as both are very liberal provinces with a heavy majority on the left or far left the out come of the election is decided by these two lefty provinces as if they are the only two that exist in Canada. Every single seat in every single one of the rest of the provinces and territory s could be won by conservatives say, and it wouldn’t matter a bit the two provinces with the majority of the french and the rich and elite left wingers to whom the rest of us are just dirty subjects to make them money have all the power over the rest of the country. Quebec has so many seats and the second largest say yet it has never been anything but a terrible destructive drain on Canada that seems to get its people into the PMs office a lot and the majority of the countrys money and demands met etc. Each province should have same number of seats
commented 2017-01-23 00:08:47 -0500
I have no faith in the legal system either Drew as it has been infiltrated and hijacked by the left. But if nothing else our constant demand for these criminals to justify themselves and to be held accountable will over the course of time force them to do what’s right instead of what they want.!!
I think the reason why the left has no integrity is because the right has it all… LOL.
commented 2017-01-22 23:41:21 -0500
Leviticus i hope you are right, i truly wonder if the legal system actually has any integrity.
commented 2017-01-22 17:51:49 -0500
The Supreme Court is very politicized. And many are very narrow thinkers. In the end, they will rule in favour of the Liberal plan, and make it legal.
commented 2017-01-22 15:05:44 -0500
How much carbon emission has been reduced because Clarke, Notley & Winbag have imposed a carbon tax? How come they never back up their policies abot that, because it doesn’t do anything other than more revenue. China & India are the biggest polluters on this planet, but are doing zilch about this matter, so pray tell me how you empty the bathtub while someone else fills it up, simultaneously!!! This is insane policy which will have no effect whatsoever, with these 3 premiers willing to bankrupt & destroy jobs only for the sake of reducing the temperature by maybe 1degree. These people are like bullies only listening to themselves even while the science is not settled.
Who appointed Trudeau & Notley as God, that those two 40 something can ban, destroy, eliminate a God given resource, just because they want to. They really feel superior to the rest of us in their elected positions & pompous attitude & if the carbon tax is illegal that the Conservations & any one else with pull would get their butt in gear & start acting on it today.
commented 2017-01-22 14:53:58 -0500
No more dictators from eastern Canada..
We should not have to tolerate anything less then the government to treat the west fairly. They need us we do not need them and we should be considering separation as an option and an alternative to endless dictatorships and bad policy out of eastern Canada.
Support brad trust in his effort to bring the majority of like-minded Canadians together or separation may be our only alternative to rid ourselves of the kings and queens of eastern Canada.
commented 2017-01-22 11:43:39 -0500
His government is illegal, ergo his carbon tax is as well. Besides, he is a creep.

From coast to coast….its Brad Trost
commented 2017-01-22 09:16:46 -0500
Brad Wall is a. HERO. The Carbon Tax is lunacy & anyone who believes in it or supports it is living in some kind of alternate universe! Canadians DO NOT want this tax or anything to do with the absurd notion that Canada in & of itself can have any effect on global climate change.
commented 2017-01-22 03:41:11 -0500
Yes it is Drew… We can never stop in our efforts to hold these criminals accountable.!! We have to use every bit of leverage we have along with courageous legal people to bring this to light and explain it to the nation who’s been put to sleep by mainstream media and furthered along by Hollywood’s indoctrination of us thus influencing our culture and our opinions and strangely enough we paid for this ourselves… our entire education system has been hijacked and I hope I’m wrong but I heard Rachel Notley was a teacher before she got into politics.!! It seems like their influence is waxing and ours is waning.
I know you’re really frustrated with them and you’re only being sarcastic and I totally sympathize with every sound thinker in this province and country who’s suffering unjustly at the delight of sinister hands.!
Our problem is the nation is we can collectively organize enough of ourselves to have any meaningful impact.
The nation of Canada and the people wanting normalcy back in their lives must learn there’s a great deal of work to be done and it’s not going to be done overnight.
At present Canada is a great big fix.
commented 2017-01-22 02:36:45 -0500
Illegal is not relevant when you are talking about liberals.
commented 2017-01-22 00:44:51 -0500
The reality in Canada is not encouraging. Most people prefer progressives (Liberal, NDP Greens). Progressives rule in the media, education, just about everything. Progressive politicians appoint progressive lawyers to be progressive Supreme Court “justices”. This tax is probably illegal and unconstitutional. But the SCOC will ultimately rule for the tax by simply telling government how to make it constitutional as they see it. Can’t happen? It happened before when provincial probate fees were judged by a lower court to be a tax in all but name. The SCOC said no problem, just tinker with the law and its ok with them. Things will have to get a lot worse for many more Canadians before enough people realize that the progressives are making their lives worse.

Progressives want to change the voting system to make sure that a Conservative government will never happen again.

The new Conservative leader needs to be a young person willing to put in years of tough fighting to turn things around. Perhaps someone like Trost is young enough and tough enough.
commented 2017-01-21 22:14:29 -0500
Brad Trost is definitely similar to Brad Wall and both come from my new adopted province.

Brad Trost for PM … well, Conservative party leader first, then PM!
commented 2017-01-21 21:56:09 -0500
The carbon copy of Brad wall at the federal level is Brad Trost…
I suggest anybody that’s concerned about the state of affairs in their country go to his Facebook page and have a look at what he has to say..!!!!
commented 2017-01-21 21:41:48 -0500
Can we make a carbon copy of Brad Wall?
How do we get people like him to run for the head of our provinces? Especially Ontario.
commented 2017-01-21 21:28:26 -0500
There is no global warming.!! On global news today I was watching the weather portion and 40 years ago today on this day it was +8… Imagine that 40 years ago today it was +8… What a crock of shit. I suggest everybody watch global for the weather portion because they give you highs and lows of yesteryears weather on the current date.!!!!
commented 2017-01-21 20:35:18 -0500
I do wish more provincial Premiers would get behind Brad Wall in this fight.

Now we know we cannot depend upon Notley or Wynne because they love carbon taxes.
And Clarke in BC already has a CO2 tax.
Quebec and the maritime provinces are all left wing, so they won’t help.
So that leaves just leave Manitoba’s Brian Pallister.
commented 2017-01-21 20:21:49 -0500
There is a good constitutional case to be made against this “everything tax”- first it is a mode of taxation not given the feds – To be a legitimate tax, a charge imposed must have some constitutionally-defined limits, form, and scope.

Central to the design of the constitutional distribution of taxation powers is a distinction between direct and indirect taxes. The provinces and their municipal subdivisions were given “direct taxation” exclusively while the feds took indirect taxation through levies etc (indirect).

None of this means anything any more since PET and Mulroney both jack screwed the division of powers by taxing out of their jurisdictions – the worst constitutional breach of taxing power being GST.

If Wall is smart he can kill several birds with one stone by refusing to comply with a fed taxation decree of dubious jurisdictional authority – he could invoke the charter to make the government prove the tax is A) needed/justified B) will accomplish its stated purpose and C) be accountable (visible) to parliament in its accounting and .

Those demands blow the whole carbon tax con job out of the water because the government will have to (under oath and cross examination) explain the failed and fallacious science used to justify this damaging tax, they will have to prove the infallibility and consensus of climate crisis (which they can’t) and then unequivocally PROVE it will stop warming (which provably is NOT a crisis) _ all their justification for this tax grab hinges on provably fallible MODELS which predict crisis – the problem being solved by tax does not exist, and the result of the tax would have no impact on it any way. It is not a constitutionally justifiable tax.

Put the feds on the stand and watch them defend these lies as you evicerate them with facts. I bet if that is the route Wall takes , they will not go to court rather than be found out as being part of a criminal carbon confidence game to defraud the Canadian people and put them in fiscal stress needlessly.
commented 2017-01-21 19:53:06 -0500
I am increasingly in favour of treating Trudeau junior in the same fashion the Romanians treated Nicolae Ceausecu.
commented 2017-01-21 18:56:18 -0500
Of course it is unconstitutional. But the constitution never stopped Papa Doc, even after he imposed his version on Canada. Why would it stop Baby Doc?
commented 2017-01-21 18:46:34 -0500
MARILYN NEILSON; No, unfortunately that is not the video that I referred to but Thank You for your help.
commented 2017-01-21 16:59:19 -0500
The only way he can phase out the oilsands, temporarily, is with the cooperation of Notley and her children. They are both globalists, only I think Notley is globalism on steroids. She is incompetent, and immature, and to do the right thing for the people, she’d have to call an election and campaign on her carbon tax, and all those destructive bills that they passed, without proper consultation. But we all know that the NDP are giddy with power, because they are essentially immature, and driven by an agenda that is set to destroy humanity. Notley and her kids show nothing but utter contempt for the people of AB. And I can’t wait until we can remove her from office.
commented 2017-01-21 16:07:02 -0500
@merrill Meikleham,

“Why is it always Alberta with the Trudeaus?”

Simple. The Turdo clan hails from “La Belle Province” – the spoiled brat of our Confederation. Most of the largess showered on that cesspool of corruption has come from Alberta, and deep down Quebeckers resent their benefactor and their own failures (which they project on everyone else).

It’s akin to a spoiled toddler – does said toddler ever show gratitude to the parents that indulge it? No. It simply increases its demands, and throws a tantrum when thwarted…
commented 2017-01-21 15:44:20 -0500
I wonder how the PM can “phase out” a province’s natural resources. Since when can the federal government come in and make such decisions on Alberta. I thought that the provinces joined the Confederation but such power and decisions are of the provincial jurisdiction. Are we to assume that Trudeau the Communist is giving us a heads-up that he intends to nationalize our oil industry? Why doesn’t he phase-out the auto-industry first? Factories are not carbon friendly. Cars are not carbon friendly. Why is it always Alberta with the Trudeaus? Who the hell voted for another one of these maniacal bastards.
commented 2017-01-21 15:37:32 -0500
According to the Distribution of Legislative Powers in Canada’s Constitution Act 1982, under Section 92 (Exclusive Powers of Provincial Legislature) in Section 92A with respect to “Laws respecting non-renewable natural resources, forestry resources and electrical energy":
(1) In each province, the legislature may exclusively make laws in relation to
(a) exploration for non-renewable natural resources in the province;
(b) development, conservation and management of non-renewable natural resources and forestry resources in the province, including laws in relation to the rate of primary production therefrom; and © development, conservation and management of sites and facilities in the province for the generation and production of electrical energy.
Failing that I would go for separation.
commented 2017-01-21 15:28:16 -0500
DAVE T commented 40 mins ago
“Why not simply invoke the Notwithstanding Clause…Any provincial leader who dared to to do this would be lionized by his constituents.”

…lionized not just by his or her constituents, but by many, many other Canadians as well!
You got me thinking about that Notwithstanding Clause and its use – or lack of, and I found this interesting site:
Look under, “Usage of the Charter’s Notwithstanding Clause”
– “Saskatchewan (1986): Back-to-Work Legislation…”, It’s not like Saskatchewan hasn’t set a precedent. Or:
- “Alberta (2000): Definition of Marriage”
– Then of course there’s the Quebec stuff…
I don’t think it’s merely about lack of adequate cojones – ‘politicians’ generally don’t have any, that’s why they’re politicians – so I wonder what it is that scares politicians off from simply invoking the Notwithstanding Clause…politicians outside of Quebec that is…
commented 2017-01-21 14:55:24 -0500
Anybody who charges money, using, Man Made Climate Change as a reason, can be charged with fraud, under International Law.

I cannot find the original video, Lord Monkton on Alex Jones Show, but Lord Monkton states quite clearly that this is so. He and the Guy who calculated the original Graphs on Climate Change, are now employed by the International Court to seek out persons like Trudeau, who is attempting to extort money from Canadians, using the fraudulent pretext, that Mankind is responsible for Climate Change.

Perhaps The Rebel could contact Lord Monkton to veryfi this.