September 17, 2016

Is THIS the best argument against letting LCBO sell pot?

David MenziesMission Specialist

In the months ahead, the powers-that-be have to figure out how to facilitate the sale of legalized marijuana in Canada. But don’t worry. It looks like the marijuana retailing debate has been settled – at least when it comes to Ontario.

A new survey shows that a sizeable chunk of Ontarians rank the Liquor Control Board of Ontario as their top choice for where it should be sold.

The results come from a Nanos poll that was conducted for the Ontario Public Service Employees Union, which, coincidentally, represents LCBO workers.

Is anyone surprised that a study sponsored by the LCBO union has a favourable outcome for the LCBO and an unfavourable outcome for the private sector?

Even then, the results were hardly a home run for OPSEU but they’re championing this poll on the rationale that the LCBO system is best when it comes to so-called “social responsibility”.

Except, this is false.

Watch as I explain all the reasons why we should view this seemingly inevitable decision with concern.

And if all this doesn’t convince you that having the LCBO sell pot is a bad idea, maybe this will: 

Premier Kathleen Wynne has long supported the idea of selling marijuana at LCBO stores.

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commented 2017-09-08 12:33:18 -0400
While it truly pains me to say this, Wynne is right to restrict sales to gov’t liquor stores, because:
More “middle class” jobs will be created (just because they’re union is no reason to prevent them)
The pot “culture” of promoting its use to minors will be highly restricted (just look at the pot stores’ window and sidewalk displays in Vancouver and how enticing it is for kids to become users, because it’s so “dope”)
Higher tax revenue to gov’t
Quality control (from licensed and inspected growers)
commented 2016-09-18 21:20:19 -0400
Anytime an union or government gets involved, the overhead increases in leaps and bounds. Unions are based on the premise that those who have worked at a company the longest, are the best to be in charge. Look at any government run operation and see how much it costs to administer. Some estimates are over 500% of the cost of the private sector. Keep the LCBO out of the game. They are the part reason the taxes are so high on alcohol. The other part is the government grabbing their end. One hand washes the other while both hands pick our pockets. Privatize the LCBO and save money.
commented 2016-09-18 17:40:20 -0400
Medical marijuana is not the same as street weed. There are various strains and strengths plus oils created to treat different medical conditions. So if anyone (AToken Conservative) who thinks that buying marijuana from the LCBO or on the street is good for some people, think again.
Has anyone seen the latest on Surrey, BC police checking for over-night ODs from the street brand of fentanyl?
Most young users make the claim that marijuana does not affect your driving, motor skills, thought process, etc., in other words, they don’t think it is impairing. Probably because they think its normal to not be able to think clearly.
commented 2016-09-17 22:23:30 -0400
The price will definitely be higher at the government (LCBO) pot shops. There is no way this Liberal Government can get by on the measly profits enjoyed by black market drug dealers.
commented 2016-09-17 22:07:09 -0400
Sorry—James Scott—- I really did misjudge you. I read back on your posts. I thought you were looking for a fight. Sorry. I am rarely right. ))))
commented 2016-09-17 21:24:25 -0400
You have been born again.
commented 2016-09-17 20:31:52 -0400
@shebel raj
Nope, I learned it along the way. (You should re-read my comment just a little bit more closely.)
I lost a family member who died because of alcoholism. I lost a best friend due to suicide while on LSD.
And I have had countless friends who have dumbed down their brains over the years with weed.
But somehow I managed to escape the wrath of dope and booze.
Good thing.
I just made a choice to stop participating.
Following Christ was a much better decision.
commented 2016-09-17 19:07:29 -0400
Maybe, you were never Young James Scott—or maybe ,you were wise beyond your years. Or maybe you were so controlled, that you just never under stood —-the Freedom of the Youth.
commented 2016-09-17 17:27:35 -0400
@al Rose
As stated Al:
“Personally, I really dont know why anyone from our so called “educated society” would knowingly consume anything that screws with their brain cells and or burns holes in their lungs. But that’s me. " 
commented 2016-09-17 16:54:29 -0400
JAMES SCOTT you said
Side note: "Personally, I really dont know why anyone from our so called “educated society” would knowingly consume anything that screws with their brain cells and or burns holes in their lungs. But that’s me. "

My comment
Our Government brags about how many billions they make from alcohol, alcohol is a known carcinogen, has ruined many a life,broken up homes, caused thousands of deaths etc,etc,etc
What you said above applies to that too, as a non drinker,other than burns holes i agree with what you said, only to alcohol.
Alcohol is very destructive, physically, emotionally and psychologically, i have experienced seeing alcoholics and it is heart breaking , but not to worry the Government is raking in the billions and bragging about it
commented 2016-09-17 15:54:44 -0400
Mongrel, there’s a problem with your post. Actually, a couple of problems. First, pot being non-cancerous isn’t a fantasy. In fact, there’s good evidence it’s a cancer inhibitor. Second, I’ve never in my life heard anyone ever say that pot is non-impairing. High CBD pot, with little or no THC (think: hemp for ropes instead of the devil weed) used for the treatment of seizures isn’t impairing, but I don’t think that’s what you’re talking about. Who would say pot isn’t impairing? Isn’t that the whole reason for the controversy?
commented 2016-09-17 14:32:55 -0400
Wait till Monsanto gets the go ahead to genetically modify pot for your "safety ". Only governments have the moral authority to ban a plant that grows naturally on this earth, right?
Another point that I have been pondering is, why are humans the only species that have to pay to live on this planet ?
commented 2016-09-17 14:27:19 -0400
Just don’t tell anyone at the U.S. border that you ever smoked pot, or it may be your last visit to the border for years.
commented 2016-09-17 13:28:24 -0400
Could you imagine the LCBO selling pot when they have in place a rule NOT to interfere when a thief steals a bottle of booze. So REBELS IF YOU EVER FEEL LIKE A NICE SINGLE MALT SCOTCH AND YOU HAVE NO MONEY JUST WALK INTO A LCBO AND WALK OUT.
commented 2016-09-17 13:00:00 -0400
Donald Allan said, “If you take the aggregate of all the stories/articles that appear here at THEREBEL , you can only reach the conclusion that we have crossed the Rubicon and are now in an inarrestabile spiral to the destruction of Western Culture.”

You are right that the “aggregate” tenor of the articles on TheRebel can be defined as somewhat foreboding

But the question is: Is that air of foreboding as a result TheRebel reporting the true condition of our Canadian culture and that of the world, or is the world the narrative the CBC and main stream media paint, that of “all things bad in this world are the result of conservatives and us socialists are perfect and when we rid ourselves of those evil conservatives, knock down all borders, and take over the world making it one big happy family, the world will be a better place.” That is the narrative the main stream media paints.
commented 2016-09-17 12:57:44 -0400
If I smoked pot (which I do not, but have no problem with others degrading themselves) the best pot would come from my back yard garden – Of course all you potheads out there wanking at the thought of the government monopolizing the retail of your favorite intoxicant, realize this fed-pot will be clean of seeds so you could grow your own – which is the best way to dcrim pot.

By the government getting into a pot monopoly, coming with it is the penalties for smoking pot with no government tax seal on it – just like tobacco.

You’re about to loose the little pot freedom you had to dive into a government controlled monopoly commodity regime with trade and consumption restrictions and penalties…..and TAX
commented 2016-09-17 11:41:22 -0400
Legalize all! The war on drugs is just the control of who gets the cash and which government/agencies distribute the cash! War on drugs complete farce and like prohibition turned law enforcement/government into dictatorship control! Period!
commented 2016-09-17 11:35:52 -0400
I have no comment..!!!
commented 2016-09-17 10:30:56 -0400
If you take the aggregate of all the stories/articles that appear here at THEREBEL , you can only reach the conclusion that we have crossed the Rubicon and are now in an inarrestabile spiral to the destruction of Western Culture.
commented 2016-09-17 10:27:43 -0400
CANADIAN MONGREL, perhaps there will be a ‘study’ that will find that smoking pot is beneficial to the environment. We all know that grass burns carbon dioxide.
commented 2016-09-17 10:21:32 -0400
When the price of pot at the local liquor store is twice that of what pot is sold on the street for, will the pot be purchased at the retail outlet or on the street?
And when the licqour stores (government) can’t compete, to keep the pot off the streets, where is the sibsidy going to come from to prop up the poor licquor stores? Taxes? Your’s or mine?

So if its not about the money (tax revenue)?
And it’s about keeping kids safe?
And it’s about taking it from the hands of the criminals and street thugs, in order to save policing costs?
Why not simply let people who want to smoke dope grow their own dope for their own consumption? Period.
The last person we would want controlling the retail sale of weed is Wynne and co.

Side note: Personally, I really dont know why anyone from our so called “educated society” would knowingly consume anything that screws with their brain cells and or burns holes in their lungs. But that’s me.

Frankly, I think Justin Trudeau ‘s legacy will go down in history as the ’anything goes years’ or the ‘party years’.
commented 2016-09-17 09:45:48 -0400
David, I disagree. Our imperious leader does not “speak first and think later”. It is just “speak first and continue blabbering”.
commented 2016-09-17 09:37:19 -0400
Considering that he thinks the burning of hydrocarbons is bad for the environment, I am surprised that Baby Doc wants to legalize another source of hydrocarbon combustion. But then maybe there is a third fantasy of marijuana to add to the fantasy that it is non-cancerous and the fantasy that it is non-impairing. The third being that when burned, it does not produce the products of H-C combustion.
commented 2016-09-17 09:10:34 -0400
Gawd, we have been dodging drunk drivers for year with a relative degree of success. Now we’ll have to deal with pot heads behind the wheel.
Looks like a step back now does’nt it?