September 10, 2016

Islam “doesn’t play well with others” in Toronto music class dispute

David MenziesMission Specialist

Islam has proven itself yet again to be the problem child of religions: It just doesn’t play well with others. According to a Globe & Mail article, some Muslim parents are pulling their kids from mandatory public school music classes because Islam forbids music.

Of course the Toronto District School Board offered to accommodate those Muslim parents who had a problem with music class by suggesting several compromises, but no dice.

Imam Kasim Ingar, the leader of the Scarborough Muslim Association said:

“We here believe that music is haram. We can neither listen to it, nor can we play a role in it.”

“We do not compromise with anyone on the clear-cut orders and principles conveyed by the Prophet.”

It’s our way or the halal-highway.

No negotiation, no compromise, no wiggle-room.

So much for the progressive “reasonable accommodation” policy which as we’ve seen has become a one-way street in Canada.

Instead of standing up to demands made by radicals, those in charge either accommodate them or turn a blind eye to the problems lest they be accused of being Islamophobic.

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commented 2016-09-12 15:45:16 -0400
Very well put Deborah..
All of our Western leaders know this and they know what they’re doing… They no longer serve as an extension to the will of the people but serve an opposing master.
None of this is happening by accident and everybody knows the outcome of mixing hot oil and water and that is what’s happening right now… The oil is just heating up and the water is just sitting there waiting.
commented 2016-09-12 09:45:05 -0400
I agree Leviticus 2013, it isn’t just our music classes that they don’t want to partake in, it’s our culture of freedom that they find so offensive. Just the fact that we have the audacity to live and breath without worshiping their Islamic god, transforms these cult followers into psychopathic maniacs, who are beyond reasoning with! They mirror the leftwing globalist lunatics to a tee. Because they are working in tandem with the leftwing loons, using their positions in our governments, to allow these monsters to prey on our society that was built on Christian principles. It’s all a part of their evil game to destroy our freedoms. Just look at the countries they came from. Nothing good ever happened there because of who they are following. Whereas our countries that were built on Christian principles, thrived and improved humanities lot. Now they are destroying that because of the devil’s cult that they follow. They are hypocrites, because they hate us, but see nothing wrong with helping themselves to the good things that have come from a Christian society.
commented 2016-09-12 09:08:52 -0400
Sorry to disagree with you Andy but I think all the comments here were related to this posting one way or the other.
The Topic is basically Islam and their inability to function within a civilized society and peoples facts/opinions about that.
commented 2016-09-12 03:48:57 -0400
Lets see if the kids get to sit out their Christmas concerts.
commented 2016-09-12 03:12:05 -0400
Ahem!… It seems we have been diverted from the intended topic of this posting “Toronto music class dispute”?,,, So, once again to focus our minds:- If a “cultural group” on the face of this planet doesn’t recognize the divine magnificence and mental achievement of something like Beethoven’s Symphony No. 9 in D minor – the Choral Symphony – then they are the “pigs”… (Although, it has been observed, that even pigs and cows appreciate classical music being piped into their birthing barns rather than jazz…)… The Muzzies, as I remember seeing, did hop and jig to something called “The Chicken Dance” in Baghdad, and one gathers that is the peak of their cultural achievement in music… Fantastic to contemplate that a whole arm of human achievement and expression for thousands of years is “persona non grata” in Muzzie culture… Music, folksongs, cradle songs (!) are so part of our being that even the dullest among us must recognize that our values in life are just not compatible with Muzzies…
commented 2016-09-11 20:36:54 -0400
@ Leviticus 2013 commented 6 hours ago
Anonymous… You truly are a funny little monkey…
I suspect you are closer to the truth than you realize simply from the reaction
I wonder which musk s/he attends?
commented 2016-09-11 16:07:04 -0400
True islam followers don’t play well with anyone, any place, anytime.
What do you expect when a child, from age 4-5 and up, is indoctrinated with hatred as written as law in the koran?

Today . . … Thinking about and remembering all the innocent people and loved ones who simply woke up and went about their day, only to be killed by islamic terrorists, 15 years ago today.

And we still have politicians and lamestream media covering for islam as though it’s a religion of peace.
commented 2016-09-11 16:01:15 -0400
Hey Marty… Thanks for weighing in..
I don’t think there are any negative teachings in the Bible as it is all through interpretation.
And as God said follow no man and find your own interpretations through insight and constant reading of the scripture.. And remember
“love thy neighbor as you love thy self”.. Which is a far cry from anything “anonymous” could attempt to achieve.. Belittling profanity and crassness is his calling card and it absolutely represents his brand of understanding..
However I wish him no harm and can only pray that him and those like him can understand the loving ways of Christianity.
I probably shouldn’t of called him a “funny little monkey” because that makes me a hypocrite and in doing so I become like them..
I should’ve just turned the other cheek.
commented 2016-09-11 15:33:46 -0400
There is asolutely no upside to arguing with an ANONYMOUS moron.

Your arguments are infantile. You are obviously not a Christian. Anyone can find negative arguments for teachings in the Bible or for anything else for that matter. If you are bound and determined to to dispute something, then you will come up with all kinds of idiotic arguments to dispute it.
The truth will set you free. But then you are ashamed to use your real name so you live a constant lie.
I posted this earlier and must add that you resort to name calling and telling people to F Off.
You are sad.
commented 2016-09-11 15:26:29 -0400
But however if civil strife does come to Canada the police forces will be too busy scrambling to protect themselves and their families to be much of a threat
commented 2016-09-11 15:25:29 -0400
Unfortunately our soldiers will do as their commanded as they have gone through intensive training to follow orders and live by a code of discipline… The problem will come when the soldiers have to face off against the patriots who have no such training or discipline and there will probably be one among the crowd that wants to see something started… The soldiers must follow the rules of engagement and that means do not fire unless fired upon and as I said previously one of the patriots through lack of discipline or intent will be the spark that ignites Civil War in Canada..
We already know that our police forces are nothing but an extension of the thugs who empower them and instead of being paid to serve and protect, they are now being paid to serve and collect. The screening program that they go through to be hired is looking for potential police officers that are willing and more than willing to engage the public with brutality and lethal force whenever necessary to protect their masters.
commented 2016-09-11 14:52:05 -0400
Rick Plesnik – that is great to hear, and it’s what I hope for our citizens. The police have shown which side they are on. They are a bunch of cowards in my opinion. I stay as far away from them as I can because I don’t trust them at all. I do trust our soldiers to do the right thing though. They have witnessed pure evil on a different level than the police have. Our government wants them out of the country, which tells me they know the soldiers will do what they need to do in a civil war, which is what we are heading for.
commented 2016-09-11 14:46:52 -0400
The problem with the leftwing is that they can’t stand the thought that others have different beliefs, thoughts and ideas. This is free will that has been given to each of us by God himself. The fact that global tyranny is being imposed on us, against our free will, only proves that evil is overcoming this world. But again, it will be for a short time. True justice is coming!
commented 2016-09-11 14:46:39 -0400
DEBORAH GRAUPNER said: “Trudeau wants our soldiers out of the country on fake peace keeping missions for a reason. He doesn’t want them to protect our country, our people and our way of life.”

It is well recorded in the history of most democracies that the military being drawn from the common folk will side with the citizenry in a crisis, while the police will side with the politicians who created the crisis!
commented 2016-09-11 14:34:09 -0400
Why come to this country? Answer: To take over! We will see more evidence of this once EL BOW imports enough of the Religion Of Pieces, and Canada begins to resemble the violence being committed in Europe. The stupid 39 percent that elected the Liebranos however are still infatuated with Trudope’s Chinese Nickname and will deny the violence when it reaches traction aided and abetted by the Communist Broadcast Corporation!
commented 2016-09-11 14:18:01 -0400
Anonymous… You truly are a funny little monkey…
“Those of you who demand so much tolerance from everybody else show very little of it yourselves indicating a lack of not only understanding but intellect.”
You are entitled to your opinion’s and opinions is what they are because all of your postings are based solely on yours and the opinions of others that you associate your mindset with.
You are incapable of independent thought and must be supported to stroke your man boy ego which is fully exhibited by your resorting to insults name-calling and now profanity…
You truly are a funny little monkey..
commented 2016-09-11 14:05:45 -0400
LEVITICUS 2013 commented 1 hour ago
And by the way anonymous… Insulting and name calling only diminishes your argument.
You have no argument to start with. Now fuck off
commented 2016-09-11 12:53:16 -0400
And by the way anonymous… Insulting and name calling only diminishes your argument.
commented 2016-09-11 12:50:00 -0400
LEVITICUS 2013 commented 4 mins ago
Mosques are not a holy place.. they are a place to hide weapons and plan strategies…

What an idiotic statement. Your blanket statements are not only ignorant but bigoted too. The sad reality is you think you are right. You and your ilk make me sick to my stomach.
commented 2016-09-11 12:44:07 -0400
Mosques are not a holy place.. they are a place to hide weapons and plan strategies… I have yet to find a Christian church that you look beneath the floorboards and in the cubby holes and find AK-47s and RPG’s… And I really doubt if there’s any tactical planning rooms in any of the Christian churches here in Canada..
Yes I believe in God and the teachings of Christ and one of the most of the important Commandments of Christ is love thy neighbor like they self.
but instead we pursue the lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh and try to own up everything that we see and feel and try to screw everybody out what is rightfully theirs.
That is what happens when you follow the teachings of man.
commented 2016-09-11 12:32:37 -0400
Being that they are refusing to compromise in CANADA where WE took them in, Do not let the door hit you on the way out!
We are discussing getting rid of Religious schooling, that means no more Catholic schools and NO to Muslim schooling, You are not special, so get over your self absorbed attitude that you are more important than the people who have been paying your way since you got here!
commented 2016-09-11 12:27:23 -0400
I’m sorry anonymous but that is not an argument either
commented 2016-09-11 12:18:52 -0400
Anonymoose – if those are your arguments, then they are petty and ignorant. When you depend on your own knowledge and understanding, you are doomed.
commented 2016-09-11 12:15:31 -0400
Oops – I meant lack empathy! I wish we could edit our comments.
commented 2016-09-11 12:10:27 -0400
ANONYMOUS There is asolutely no upside to arguing with an anonymous moron.
Your arguments are infantile. You are obviously not a Christian. Anyone can find negative arguments for teachings in the Bible or for anything else for that matter. If you are bound and determined to to dispute something, then you will come up with all kinds of idiotic arguments to dispute it.
The truth will set you free. But then you are ashamed to use your real name so you live a constant lie.
commented 2016-09-11 11:48:01 -0400
Leviticus 2013 – I just wanted to mention that I believe the rapture of the church will happen before the tribulation period, where corruption and evil will be like nothing ever seen before, or will ever be seen again. But in case I’m wrong on the timing, I’m preparing as best I can. I wish I was much younger and stronger, but having been raised a country girl, I know how to survive. And being prepared is the key. The hardest thing to prepare for is the absolute hatred by those who the devil controls. I’ve studied psychopaths and narcissists because I’ve had many of them in my life. We are now governed by a world full of those who like empathy and a conscience, the two things necessary for normal human relationships.
commented 2016-09-11 11:43:19 -0400
There is asolutely no upside to arguing with a fundamentalist moron.
commented 2016-09-11 11:38:19 -0400
Leviticus 2013 – those are my plans exactly. Peace be with you and all of those who are true believers because we shall see God!
commented 2016-09-11 11:33:43 -0400
And if the fundamentalist God is so fundamentally evil, it should also come as no surprise that fundamentalists themselves are an extension of that behavior, sharing the hypocrisy of evil masquerading as good. Some examples:

Fundamentalist Christians believe that morals are absolute, yet consider God exempt from these rules.
They believe it is just for God to kill and torture billions of people for so minor an infraction as not believing in God, yet they consider him infinitely good and merciful for allowing some paltry few to escape such a fate—it is the schoolyard bully writ large.
They believe that God is all-just (getting exactly the punishment deserved) and all-merciful (getting less punishment than deserved), even though the two concepts are mutually exclusive.
They claim they believe in freedom of religion, but only as long as Christianity has more influence over government and society than any other religion.
They claim to believe in “The Golden Rule,” expecting others to treat Christianity with respect (no blasphemy), yet they they show some of the most profoundly intolerant disrespect and hate toward other belief systems.
They claim to believe in trying to understand “God’s creations,” but ignore or severely distort any scientific evidence that contradicts their interpretation of the Bible (their attacks on cosmological and biological evolution are infamous; see and for extensive listings of fundamentalist claims and the refutations against them. See and for creationist statements of faith requiring them to ignore evidence that contradicts their beliefs).
They claim they are moral, yet they are willing to tell outright lies in order to discredit any opposition to their beliefs (see, and for numerous examples).
They focus on the parts of the Bible that encourage hate and intolerance towards others, using the phrase “love the sinner but hate the sin” to justify persecution and hatred of individuals for their beliefs (their hatred and treatment of homosexuals is cruelly pathological).
They profess to condemn terrorism, yet often tacitly or even explicitly support acts of terror, using the Bible as their justification (the difference between Christian fundamentalists murdering abortion doctors and Muslim fundamentalists blowing up the World Trade Center is only a matter of degree).
They even use the Bible to support opposition to concepts not even vaguely condemned in the Bible (such as abortion; see, while selectively opposing concepts that are clearly accepted in Scripture (such as slavery).
Ironically, fundamentalists are the very enemy they claim to fight against, and the saddest part is that they don’t even realize it.
commented 2016-09-11 11:28:29 -0400
Sorry anonymous but “bullshit”
is not an argument..!!!