July 10, 2015

Islamic radicalism is an urgent problem, but "certifying imams" is "a terrible idea"

Rebel Staff

So the Canadian Senate’s committee on security and defence has called for the government to, quote, “investigate the options that are available for the training and certification of imams in Canada.”

I understand what they’re trying to do.

There are extremist imams in Canada who are radicalizing young Muslims, turning them against Canadian society, and in extreme cases, weaponizing them, turning them into terrorists.

The problem is very real. The Rebel has set up a whole website, documenting these extremist imams, called CanadianJihad.ca.

But certifying imams, certifying the clergy, is a terrible idea. We don’t believe in governments getting into the religion business in Canada.

I think the real answer to this problem is obvious. But it takes courage.

First of all, we need to keep foreign government money out of Canadian mosques.

You know that Muslim high school in Toronto that refused to play against a team because it had a girl on it? They get money from the Saudis.

But secondly, we need to screen our immigrants better.

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commented 2015-07-14 08:33:29 -0400
True North, the Crusades was a defensive war against muslims that had for a long time persecuted and murdered Christians in the region. The Christians BEGGED the Roman church for help to avoid being annihalated, and finally the Pope gave the word. But who cares? They kill people over cartoons. End of moral analysis.
commented 2015-07-14 08:03:36 -0400
True North, that is the weirdest logic I have ever read. Did the six millions Jews of Europe “do” something???
commented 2015-07-14 00:00:10 -0400
“they” (muzies) DO NOT BELONG IN WESTERN SOCIETY!! (koran + muzies = stone-age hairy nazis)
Peaceful islam = IS AN OXYMORON… (just like all you progressives!)

“they” (REMEMBER… muzies = stone-age hairy nazis) WILL DEMAND BY FORCE,

1/ Get ready for POSTED SLZ’s (shariah law zones)

a) no go zone’s for us “infidels”…
(heck, tps/opp/rcmp wouldn’t go near SLZ’s UNLESS OF COURSE THEY WERE CALLED IN BY A muzie… RED ALERT!!! ALL UNITS SWARM!!! SWARM!!! SWARM!!!
LOL… but fat chance of that… “they” have their own shariah laws!)

b) Nothing but halal foods,

c) no alcoholic anything.

d) “prey” to a PEDOPHILE 7 X’s a day (no wonder none of them work!!)

e) ETC

2/ Restricted BASIC personal human rights…









i) ETC

It is all only a matter of time and WE ALL KNOW IT…



islam is and always will be… the curse of the Earth!
commented 2015-07-13 20:36:33 -0400
The following ‘facts’ are from a muslim web page, the link to which was provided by RAE FRASER (below)

1.Crusaders killed more than half million Muslims during and after occupying Jerusalem.
2.Ganges Khan and his forces killed more than a million Muslims during the occupation of Iraq and neighboring areas.
3.Thousands of Muslims were killed / forced to change religion by Spanish Crusaders in South America
4.More than a million Muslims were killed / displaced by Spanish and other European extremists during the rebellion against the Ottoman Empire.
5.More than 3 million Muslims were killed / displaced by the European colonial powers during and after the occupation of Muslim countries after World War I and II.
6.More than 5 million Muslims were killed / displaced by Tsars of Russia
7.More than a million Muslims were killed / displaced by Communist Government of Russia
8.More than 1.5 million Muslims have been killed in China, Cambodia, Vietnam, and other Far East countries since the world war II
9.More than half million Muslims have been killed / displaced in Burma since World War II
10.More than half million Muslims have been killed in India and Kashmir since 1947
11.More than half million Muslims were killed by Serbs and Croats in Bosnia during early 90s.
12.More than 100,000 Muslims were killed in Kosovo and Albania during mid 90s.
13.More than 5 million Muslims have been killed / displaced in Palestine since 1948
14.More than 5 million Muslims were killed / displaced by the Russian occupation of Afghanistan
15.More than one million Muslims children died from malnutrition in Iraq during the US/UN embargo on Iraq during 1990s.
16.Thousands of Muslims have been killed by the secular governments in Muslim countries, backed by the Western Governments, since the independence from the colonial powers.
17.Currently, hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed by the American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan

If these claims are true, and coming from a web site like this, one must always question their veracity, one must ask a question; “What did all these millions of muslims do that resulted in their eradication?” If one accepts these statements as fact then one must also look for a reason for these deaths. What did these mulsims do that drove their neighbours to kill them? Is it possible that the aggressive, violent, invasive colonization of other populations eventually lead to ‘pay-back’? Like an immune system developing antibodies against a virus, did these populations attack and destroy an invading, destructive religion? Is this the road the west is headed down now?
commented 2015-07-13 11:30:10 -0400
The certification of Imans could end up being a ‘free pass’ and stamp of approval where it possibly wasn’t deserved. How could the process be trusted? If Sharia law is taught by its literal definitions in any mosque, and violence against anyone non-Muslim is encouraged, then that is inciting violence and it should be shut down.

I certainly wouldn’t advocate deporting all Muslims, but I would like to see really strict criteria in place for all ports of entry into Canada, and even stricter rules and hard questions for the chance to apply for citizenship.
Multiculturalism was supposed to have some balance was it not? I do not want a country over run by any one group.
commented 2015-07-12 22:31:16 -0400
Peter, I understand full well that they are “as Conservative as we are going to get”. Joan, clearly there is no alternative, but does that mean one can’t be disappointed if they don’t act conservative? Or just applaud them no matter what as that will split the vote? Really?
commented 2015-07-12 21:47:45 -0400
Joan – whoever said that to that young woman wanted her to abort. She could have had the baby and given it to a couple who is childless. There is no shame in protecting an innocent life. It would have been hard, but she may have kept that baby in the end, in spite of the naysayers. The problem is that abortion is the only option promoted, because it is easy, but in my opinion, it is the wrong one. It takes more courage and it builds strength and character to do the right thing. It isn’t easy doing the right thing, but in the end there would have been another little light in the world, who deserved to live.
commented 2015-07-12 19:23:31 -0400
Deborah, I knew a young woman who was raped by a repeat sex offender and got pregnant during the ordeal. She did not want an abortion. The counsellors told her that her baby would never, ever get adopted because it was the child of a convicted rapist. They said her baby would be bounced from foster home to foster home and be abused and neglected.

What a choice, eh? Pro-life means injustice from the cradle.

Sadly, the young woman’s family was not supportive. They wanted her to have an abortion. She had injuries from the rape that made her a mess and not good mother material. She had the abortion not because she didn’t want her baby but because she loved her baby too much to condemn him/her to the kind of life the counsellors forecast.

That woman told me she prayed to God to take her baby’s soul and put it in another fetus so s/he could have a better life.

Sad, eh?
commented 2015-07-12 19:16:21 -0400
Ron, if we start second-guessing the Conservative Party in Canada, condemning it as pseudo-Conservative and looking to the right for alternatives, we’ll simply split the vote and usher in an NDP government.

If you think the party is not Conservative enough, change it from within. Don’t damn to the left all who are not right enough for you. The only way we can keep Canada strong is with a united Conservative movement. Division is division after all.
commented 2015-07-12 19:13:54 -0400
The first guy shown on the video was born to a prominent Somalian political family. He got radicalized in the nursery.

But I agree we need to do a better job of screening out any bad apples. Not only should we ask questions, we should make immigrants take a course and sign a contract to support democracy and secular law.

The only place I want imams required to pass some test of suitability is when they go into our prisons. We have enough trouble with radicalizing of jihadis in the prison system without some crazy imam adding fuel to that fire.
commented 2015-07-12 18:05:44 -0400
Deborah, your response to Ron: Unwilling because of…
I think you are right, I agree, it’s something that started long ago and is almost complete.
And I’m not trying to be facetious
commented 2015-07-12 13:29:49 -0400
Ron said, " if indeed, they are a conservative party."

Well, they are about as Conservative as we are going to get. Better them than the alternatives.
commented 2015-07-12 12:24:09 -0400
DEBORAH GRAUPNER, I agree with your assessment and when talking about our “elected officials” being unwilling, I certainly wasn’t thinking of the politically correct Liberals or the NDP, but the Conservative Party of Canada, if indeed, they are a conservative party.
commented 2015-07-12 11:56:27 -0400
Ron Voss – Unwilling because of the one world government agenda, that all Marxists have bought into. The elite Liberals/UN attempting to disarm the masses, the undermining of the education system, where they are continually attacking those who don’t bow down to the socialist brain washing agenda. They don’t want our children to aspire to anything, because they don’t want intelligence, they just want to strip the wealth from healthy democratic nations, and give it to those who want to control the world. And the continual boundary crossing by the perverts in the education system. And the direct effects of the media conspiracy to control the masses by lying and manipulating the truth about our politicians and specifically the lies about our history.
commented 2015-07-12 08:52:57 -0400
DEBORAH GRAUPNER, our “elected officials” are “able” but they seems are they are unwilling to use the tool available to them " to slap down these activist judges", namely, the notwithstanding clause and thereby end the judicial tyranny and restore the correct role for the three branches of Canada’s parliamentary system of government, namely, executive, legislative and judicial branches.
commented 2015-07-12 08:30:47 -0400
We need to stop the free flowing abortion access, and offer support and counselling to these women through their pregnancy, and on through to adoption, or maybe they will decide to keep the baby. I think the families need to actively support these women. They must see that life is worth more, and then we would have a substantial work force. We wouldn’t have to import the train wreck that is in progress here in Canada. It feels like the forces of evil are all around us, and we are in the calm before the storm. What is happening in Europe, is already happening here. In our major cities, each race seems to be congregating in one area, which eventually will be unsafe for others to go there. We have liberal activist lawyers and judges, all the way to the SCOC, who are engineering the downfall of our free society, because they are writing and enforcing their own laws, to further their own agenda, based on the UN Agenda 21. Our elected officials don’t seem to be able to slap down these activist judges, but that is where they need to start, by booting them off the bench. We also need to make people see that the media are playing mind games with the citizens of Canada, for power and control. It seems that it is easy to pass on the lies and deception by spreading propaganda, and fear. And the public needs to start paying attention to what is really going on in Canada, and the world.
commented 2015-07-11 20:10:47 -0400
Thanks Ezra, you started something here.
Linda Cayer asks, early on, How did it ever come to this. That our enemies are so fully entrenched in our society
angers me greatly. Canada has for decades had a declining birthrate and burgeoning debt. Immigration floodgates are wide open. The best way to stop the immigration, is to stop the need.
commented 2015-07-11 20:09:33 -0400
It was there when I made the post. I know because I checked to see if my post went thru. Then I checked again and it was gone. We are talking minutes ago. That has been up there on their website for many months—- maybe years for all I know. Try this -http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.com/holocaust-and-genocide-of-muslims/
commented 2015-07-11 19:59:07 -0400
Found the website, Rae, but no mention whatsoever of South America… or *any*of the Americas…
commented 2015-07-11 19:43:50 -0400
I don’t know if if I am doing this correctly but—- ww.islamicsupremecouncil.com/holocaust-and-genocide-of-muslims/
commented 2015-07-11 19:43:49 -0400
I don’t know if if I am doing this correctly but—- ww.islamicsupremecouncil.com/holocaust-and-genocide-of-muslims/
commented 2015-07-11 18:58:03 -0400
Rae, please tell me you’re being sarcastic/ironic/tongue-in-cheek about the South American Indians being Muslim…
commented 2015-07-11 18:36:51 -0400
Well, I am not wrong. This lovely Muslim lady wants to bring All other Regions down to the level of the sick cult of Islam. Trust me on this one Lady—— We are nowhere near like you. While I am at it—- That is pretty bad how all the Muslims in South America were subjected to Genocide when the Spanish arrived. The Incas were Muslim—-don’t you know?
commented 2015-07-11 18:19:18 -0400
It’s absolutely mindblowing that the social-engineering types (who want us all to be victims in our freedoms from whatever) have no clue about what Sharia law is. They deny radical Islam in its various labels, and pick on supposed “white supremacists” instead (like we really have any of those…).

Found this article which should bring a dose of reality… should those social-engineering types ever get to this site…

commented 2015-07-11 18:12:54 -0400
It would appear an out right ban on practicing sharia law in Canada would be a good start. Sharia and democracy are diametrically opposed systems that cannot be integrated. In addition all Muslim immigrants should swear allegiance to Canada and swear that to Allah as all oaths by Muslims to non muslims according to the Quran have no validity.
commented 2015-07-11 17:37:51 -0400
Did that lovely Lady mean that is was just Muslim Imams that need to be vetted and certified ? I thought she meant that EVERY religion that has a preacher should be subjected to the same scrutiny. Am I wrong?
commented 2015-07-11 17:36:10 -0400
Well done again Ezra. Keep em coming.
I am sure there are a lot lot more of these preachings to cause death and suffering to westerners that you and I don’t know about. Yet, we still buy their oil to finance these terrorists. This irks me the most. Not approving the Keystone pipeline is costing us more than jobs and money. Oh wait, according to Mulcair, Trudeau, and the lush May, they are not terrorists
commented 2015-07-11 17:00:07 -0400
TERRY RUDDEN, once again, thanks for the clarification. However, I would submit that when it comes to Islam, a supremacist ideology, the notion of “radicalization” comes out of the myth that Islam is a “religion of peace” and that jihad, one its manifestations being violent terrorism against non-believers (infidels), is a perversion of Islam. The counseling of violence against infidels is part and parcel of what is taught in the Qu’aran and, importantly, is modeled by the life of their ‘prophet’ Muhammad, who Allah himself (speaking through Muhammad, of course) described as the most “beautiful pattern of conduct” and “example” to follow (Qur’an 33:21). So, consider WWMD, What Would Muhammad Do?
I don’t agree with much that Bill Mayer, hardly a conservative voice, says, but here he nails it when he explains to Charlie Rose that “there is a connecting tissue between” the activities of Islamic terrorists and what they are taught in the Qu’aran and modeled by Muhammad. When Rose contends, “What we see with ISIS is not representative of..”, Maher responds, “As I said connecting tissue.” Rose, retorts, “Not representative of the Islamic religion. I don’t think the Qu’aran teaches them to do these kind of things. Maher responds, “Well you are wrong about that. The Qu’aran absolutely on every page has stuff that is horrible about how the infidels should be treated.”
commented 2015-07-11 14:26:44 -0400
Do we have muslim ghettos with high unemployment like they do in some European countries? I don’t know.
There is a right wing party in France gaining traction that is causing the muslims occupants in these ghettos to start an uprising, it should get interesting. I don’t understand why our media doesn’t cover more of this.