So the Canadian Senate’s committee on security and defence has called for the government to, quote, “investigate the options that are available for the training and certification of imams in Canada.”
I understand what they’re trying to do.
There are extremist imams in Canada who are radicalizing young Muslims, turning them against Canadian society, and in extreme cases, weaponizing them, turning them into terrorists.
The problem is very real. The Rebel has set up a whole website, documenting these extremist imams, called CanadianJihad.ca.
But certifying imams, certifying the clergy, is a terrible idea. We don’t believe in governments getting into the religion business in Canada.
I think the real answer to this problem is obvious. But it takes courage.
First of all, we need to keep foreign government money out of Canadian mosques.
You know that Muslim high school in Toronto that refused to play against a team because it had a girl on it? They get money from the Saudis.
But secondly, we need to screen our immigrants better.
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Keep waiting. Under the advice of several commenters here, I’m trying to be more civil. Part of that is avoiding discussions that start with an invitation like that.
Good question. I guess I mean counseling to commit a criminal offense, using religion as a justification.
You said:
“To the folks below urging the deportation of “all Muslims” – would that include our Muslim members of Parliament, Senators, members of provincial legislatures, members of police departments and the armed forces, and so on? Just curious about how you envision this working. "
While in Afghanistan I watched a moderate islamic soldier fighting WITH the Americans, French and some Brits – turn on the French and kill several – wounded several others before being killed by one of my guys – a Canadian. This was a trained soldier, who had returned from training in the UK and was a “trusted” soldier.
I know of no Canadian soldier who did a "Stan tour and actually worked “outside the wire” and was not a REMF (google it) that would willingly fight alongside an islamic in an actual fire fight. And yes we have them in the military – but when I served I gave the very wide berth after my experiences. Completely untrustworthy.
As for the other people in other jobs?
I equate it to this – Yes – gone and not missed.
Islam is a disease that you have to live in and experience to understand that it will not change and assimilate – it demands YOU change for it. If you do not change for it then be on the look out – it truly is submit or die.
I await your smarmy response – however – and I hope it does not happen – we will see serious violence in Canada from the islamics – and watch the Europeans – they are in desperate trouble that is ignored by the media – that fight will be down and dirty and coming soon.
Appeasement does not work – islam respects strength and nothing more.
Out of this one.
The government should never be in the religious certification business.
“I get the impression you don’t think the threat of Islam is as dire as it is.”
By which I will assume you mean I may not share YOUR view of its direness – or at least the direness felt by those who would deport Canadian citizens who are Muslim. That is correct, I do not share that view.
“You don’t understand why or how some Westerners could feel enough uncertainty, apprehension and fear from the complete cultural incompatibility and threat of Islam, to act out in the manner you allude to.”
I understand that fear very well indeed, Dan, having spent my life working and living in a number of cross cultural milieux, and having done considerable work for many years as a volunteer with newcomers to Canada. That’s one of the reasons I engage in these discussions; to try to point out the difference between (a) “Look, here’s a match. You must be careful with matches”, and (b) “AAARGGGHHH! A MATCH! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!”
I will try to watch the video you recommend. However, I don’t have much patience for home made propaganda with creepy music, out of context quotes, unsourced speculation, and fearmongering. I’ll watch it, and I’ll let you know what I think.
Of course what you said is completely reasonable and I would also like to know how deportation of all Muslims from Canada would work – but perhaps for different reasons.
I get the impression you don’t think the threat of Islam is as dire as it is and therefore don’t understand why or how some Westerners could feel enough uncertainty, apprehension and fear from the complete cultural incompatibility and threat of Islam, to act out in the manner you allude to.
Well the threat seems real enough to me, especially after listening to ‘David Wood: The Three Stages of Jihad and the Qur’an in Context’:
http://counterjihadreport.com/2014/05/21/david-wood-the-three-stages-of-jihad-and-the-quran-in-context/
there’s a 25 minute video, or my preference, the written version.
Given your form in Lilley’s ‘greivence mongers’, Indian piece earlier, I be interested in hearing you (try to) counter Wood’s premise. Really.
Linda it proves we have been asleep at the wheel for a long time. Most Canadians are still asleep.
I think I can here the pipes and drums calling. Can you hear them too?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/WWMD.htm
Do you agree with the concerns raised by Ezra and his proposed solutions?
What solutions, if any, do you have to offer?
http://pamelageller.com/2015/07/saudi-prince-pledges-billions-to-promote-islamsharia-in-america.html/
I can see the same fear amongst the Canadian population to do something similar deportation amongst the most popular. I think it’s another rabbit hole.
I guess Bill C-51 cannot be used for the purpose it was intended in this matter?
Thanks to Obama showing up the whole world seems to have all these extremist Religion problems? Not faith problems but extremist Religion problems!
I guess Bill C-51 cannot be used for the purpose it was intended in this matter?
Thanks to Obama showing up the whole world seems to have all these extremist Religion problems? Not faith problems but extremist Religion problems!
Put the pen down Peter no scribbling on your monitor.
-What you posted is BS. I could care less about what the Pope says , especially this one,-but I can assure you that if it all is about war—The West will always stand with Israel.
We are not exactly into Islamic rule.
I would, but then I get felt pen marks all over my monitor.
Forget the bible and its prophecys but this will insight Israel to attack Iran causing a global conflict. I don’t think that the popes words will be intentional for this to happen but it will happen. The Vatican will side with the muslims before they side with Israel
Leave Islam under the penalty of death, so Muslims living here and not leaving Islam have to abide by the Koran .
As you say, in a few generations from now with Muslim birth rates and immigration,and the west slowly get saturated with Muslims and they infiltrate institutions and positions of power and bit by bit whittle away at the west’s freedoms,those "moderate " Muslims will only be too happy to live as the Koran and Sharia Law dictates .
I am reminded of the Imam that spoke in the white house, oh he was very moderate and said all the right things, then someone caught him talking about the west in private,he called the west " dirt, filthy"
The problem with Muslims and Islam , one never know whether to believe what they say or not, it is dictated in the Koran they lie to non believers to further Islam.
A quote from Islam 101
The Quran’s commandments to Muslims to wage war in the name of Allah against non-Muslims are unmistakable. They are, furthermore, absolutely authoritative as they were revealed late in the Prophet’s career and so cancel and replace earlier instructions to act peaceably. Without knowledge of the principle of abrogation, Westerners will continue to misread the Quran and misdiagnose Islam as a “religion of peace.”