August 16, 2019

Trudeau's Bernier ban welcomes French Bloc Quebecois to English-only debate

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

On last night's episode of The Ezra Levant Show, we covered more news about who is and isn't allowed to participate in the upcoming French and English language federal leadership debates in the lead-up to the 2019 Canadian election this October.

Whether or not you like Bernier or the PPC isn’t the point.

It’s whether or not you think government ought to be able to ban their challengers. And surely any conservative can be against that.

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commented 2019-08-19 13:05:28 -0400
“Will Trudeau’s ego let him work with a Separatist Government? "

An addendum (ah, for an edit button!). Separatism is pretty quiet right now, and Quebec is, for the first time in decades, prospering within Canada partly because of that. The Separatists aren’t actually separatists, but rather a regional interest party much as the CPC is becoming for Alberta.

In broad terms the priorities of the main leaders are not widely divergent. They have ways to find common ground. Bernier really is the outlier here – and the same thing that makes him so celebrated here, makes him essentially the last choice for forming an coalition.
commented 2019-08-19 13:01:55 -0400
“Which of course has nothing to do with the relevance of either party. It addresses the potential influence politically but says nothing about relevance. The BQ have no relevance outside of Quebec regardless of what power they can wield. "

Is “relevance” a matter of candidates, or of MPs you can actually get into the HoC? Bernier has a lot of candidates, but few if any have mucb of a chance of winning. How “relevant” can they be if they’re a bunch of fourth place also rans?

“Will Trudeau’s ego let him work with a Separatist Government?
Will the Liberal’s base be happy with this union.”

I think Trudeau will do whatever he can to gain the confidence of the house. He is not someone who will deliberately take a principled loss. And yes, I suspect most of his supporters are fine with compromising to stay in power (better to have some say, than none). In fact it may be beneficial because it might force him to be a bit better behaved going forward. I think a minority-coalition is probably the best option given our current choices. We saw the same thing with Harper – he was far better leading a minority government than majority, since it forced him to worry about immediate consequences of bad policy.
commented 2019-08-19 00:54:52 -0400
Andrew Stephenson commented 3 hours ago
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Andrew, lets assume you are correct and the Bloc gets around 15 seats; (reasonable) will the Bloc work with Trudeau?
Unlike the NDP and Greens, the Bloc has a real smorgasbord of views and policies. In fact their Leader Michel Gauthier joined the CPC last year.
Will Trudeau’s ego let him work with a Separatist Government?
Will the Liberal’s base be happy with this union.
I’m just asking as Wikileaks is all over the place on this Federal Party and I haven’t been in Quebec in years.
commented 2019-08-18 23:52:16 -0400
The Canadian fake news Enemedia / political cabal is terrified of giving Max any air time because he will say truthful things that don’t fit with their scripted CBC approved – PC censored Orwellian narrative.
commented 2019-08-18 23:51:12 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON

“I don’t care if they are at the English debate, but the point is that Bernier is more relevant for Canadians than the Bloc and is being excluded. "
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Even the Greens, whose caucus can be counted on one hand, and probably still will be in November, have a better chance of holding balance—of-power than Bernier.
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Which of course has nothing to do with the relevance of either party. It addresses the potential influence politically but says nothing about relevance. The BQ have no relevance outside of Quebec regardless of what power they can wield.

Nice distraction again, Andrew.
commented 2019-08-18 21:52:06 -0400
" I don’t care if they are at the English debate, but the point is that Bernier is more relevant for Canadians than the Bloc and is being excluded. "

That’s debatable. It’s looking like we’re in for a minority government, and in that case it’s the small parties who will be kingmaker. If the Bloc or NDP gets 20 seats, and Bernier gets one (really, the best case for him right now), who is probably actually going to hold the balance of power? Even the Greens, whose caucus can be counted on one hand, and probably still will be in November, have a better chance of holding balance—of-power than Bernier.
commented 2019-08-18 01:13:51 -0400
I guess I just couldn’t believe Gould could be so misinformed. Honestly, I hardly remember when we didn’t have children with little proper education running the country. Did she ever have a real job or did she land in Ottawa straight out of school?
commented 2019-08-17 23:41:41 -0400
lennard maillet commented 13 hours ago
The Bloc Quebecois has candidates in 90% of Canadian ridings?
I saw this fascist freak Gould on CPAC. A real Gestapo vibe just radiating off the nazi bitz.
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I had to read this a few times, however Lennard is saying that on CPAC TV News, Karina Gould actually said this stupid statement, showing her ignorance. His question- mark on the first sentence shows that he is doubting her.
We must remember that when Karina was placed, Trudeau was getting to the bottom of the Female Peoplekind Barrel.
commented 2019-08-17 20:54:13 -0400
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commented 2019-08-17 15:45:01 -0400
This is a good example of just how stupid turdo la doo is. Max’s appearance in the debates would draw more votes away from scheer-the-steer than it would from turdo and his rats.
commented 2019-08-17 11:37:36 -0400
Lennard M. huh?
The Bloc doesn’t run any candidates outside of Quebec.
They don’t have 90% of anything anywhere that I know of.

They will however possibly help split the liberal vote in Quebec which is a bad thing for the putz Trudeau. I don’t think Justin’s popularity in Quebec is as good as it once was. The Bloc is growing there and they may be who Bernier and Scheer really have to fight for the Quebec vote. I hear the Bloc leader, is being asked to tell his ex communist party leader candidate to denounce his past. Said candidate refuses.

Quebec’s vote affects the Federal result for parties that have candidates across the country. The Bloc has no representation except in Quebec but could take some liberal ridings away from Trudeau this time around, so say the pundits anyway. I don’t care if they are at the English debate, but the point is that Bernier is more relevant for Canadians than the Bloc and is being excluded.

https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/get_max_in_the_debates
Please show them we want Max at the debates, sign Bernier’s petition to the debates commissioner, Johnston.
commented 2019-08-17 10:07:27 -0400
The Bloc Quebecois has candidates in 90% of Canadian ridings?
I saw this fascist freak Gould on CPAC. A real Gestapo vibe just radiating off the nazi bitz.
commented 2019-08-17 00:30:44 -0400
Henry, the more participants the better. The requirement should be that they are a registered federal party. The more of a three ring circus it is the better it shows the reality of politics.
commented 2019-08-17 00:22:38 -0400
The PPC is running more candidates than the liberals and just a few less than the CPC. They are relevant to this election in a big way. If the Liberals can change the rules the minute the PPC is announced, we can make a fuss about this exclusion, especially when before this change Max would have qualified.

Max Bernier founded the PPC on Sept.. 14
Gov. announced change of protocol October 30 , 2018
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECDS3hVXkAA6JYT.jpg:large

paleese.
commented 2019-08-16 22:38:52 -0400
Henry Reardon.. So Trudeau and his crew should be allowed to run and not disqualified in this Election when they have broken Canadian Laws several times.. Is that reasonable principle? Or is that top notch Canadian Politics… For the globalist elite sick in the head goofballs?
commented 2019-08-16 20:11:15 -0400
I think this whole issue is more complicated than it seems. I get that people here want Bernier to participate in the debate and I personally agree but the rules need to be based on some kind of reasonable principle that doesn’t take individuals into account. There has to be a principle that transcends this one election, a general notion of which parties are significant enough to participate in a leaders debate. Have a look at the Wikipedia page for the last federal election and look at all the parties that participated (in the election, as opposed to the debate).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Canadian_federal_election

We see the “major” parties – Liberal, Conservative, NDP – but also a rather large number of lesser parties, some of which are familiar, like the Greens and the Bloc Quebecois, and a whole lot of far less familiar parties, like the Libertarians, the Rhinos, the Animal Alliance, the Marijuana Party and even some rather radical ones like the Marxist-Leninist and Communist Parties. Which of those should participate in the Leaders Debates and what principle should be used to invite some and exclude the others? Or do we invite each and every one and wind up with a circus like the current Democratic Primaries?
commented 2019-08-16 18:41:48 -0400
Little potato has shown he has no regard for ethics according to his previous actions mentioned by the appointed commissioner. His arrogance will not allow him to accept criticism. What a jerk.
commented 2019-08-16 17:34:06 -0400
Banning political candidates from taking part in political debates heading into an election is what one would expect in a banana republic. A democratic government should not control a political candidates right to speak yet a dictatorship is exactly what we have allowed Trudeau to establish.
commented 2019-08-16 13:25:12 -0400
I don’t understand how the Bloc is eligible for the debates when they only run candidates in Quebec.

Muta Ween is right, Scheer no longer represents the Conservative philosophy, if he ever did. (personally I think he won the leadership by unethical means and false advertising.)
This is far from over.The cut off date to appeal for consideration to be included in the debates is in Sept. sometime(16?).

Andrew Stephenson agreed, “They shouldn’t “ban” their challengers.”
Its hypocritical, unethical and only makes them look weak and cowardly.
commented 2019-08-16 12:36:13 -0400
Scheer doesn’t represent conservative philosophy and that is exactly why the media and the CPC arranged to have him named leader.
Scheer will just mime the policies of the Liberals and the media , just watered down to placate the Party base and hopefully unseat Trudeau.
Bernier should have been included , but at this point throwing the despicable Trudeau crowd is imperative to salvage what’s left of our country.
commented 2019-08-16 11:39:27 -0400
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commented 2019-08-16 11:24:32 -0400
They shouldn’t “ban” their challengers. The question is whether Bernier is meaningfully a “challenger” or not, given his limited electoral prospects. He has only to show to the organizers that he has reasonable prospects of winning a seat other than his own – which every other party has done.

Complain about the Bloc all you want, but they’re likely to win double-digit seats and actually have a caucus.
commented 2019-08-16 11:17:23 -0400
This is the behaviour of a little dictator.