December 30, 2015

Justin demands pro-life Liberals put their souls on the line; what does that say about those who do?

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

I'm pro-life. I believe that a unique and precious human life exists at conception.

I say I believe it but what I mean is that I know it to be true, ethically, medically and spiritually.

We never really knew how Stephen Harper felt on the subject personally. He never proclaimed anything the way I just did. But as a man of principle, he realized that abortion is a matter of conscience. Stephen Harper understood that for many people, people like me, being pro-life is a matter of our very salvation. Asking us to be pro-choice is like asking us to literally sell our soul. So when the issue of opening up a debate about when life begins arose, Stephen Harper did not whip the vote. How could he ask anyone to put their soul on the line for the party?

But that’s what Justin Trudeau is doing. He insisted all of his MPs be pro-choice. Trudeau made being pro-choice a condition for being given the green light to run as a Liberal party candidate. He really did. I'm not a theologian but I am a lifelong Catholic.

Trudeau's position is a strange one for a man who presents himself as publicly Catholic and moreover it's totalitarian. How could anyone demand that a person of faith choose the Liberal party over their own moral convictions?

We know that some pro-lifers exist in the Liberal party. At their 2012 convention, 90% of the Liberal party membership reaffirmed their pro-choice stance. That’s a lot but it's far from unanimous. What about those pro-lifers who'd fold up their morality cards in the hopes that they'd be given a shot to sit in the green chairs in the House of Commons? What does that say about the kind of ethics of those people? It says they believe in the right to life up until it interferes with their personal desires to hold power. That bothers me.

This is the Christmas season. It’s a holy time for people like me when an unplanned child came to offer salvation for mankind.

And for the non religious, an unplanned child gave you a secular holiday to exchange gifts with loved ones.

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commented 2015-12-31 18:43:06 -0500
Sam Young you said Christians should not be able to celebrate Christmas, then you say Christians are the ones forcing others to change? You are pretty sad.
commented 2015-12-31 18:41:49 -0500
Sam Young sorry that is not the Christian way, it is the secular lefts way, they are the ones pushing this on others.
commented 2015-12-31 17:39:51 -0500
Of course people should be entitled to be pro life. But that does not mean that they get to dictate what others believe, and can or cannot do. This is the christian way, whether or not any of you want to agree with me or not.

If your main support for christianity as a religion is based on how prosperous a nation is, then you still have not done anything to prove the legitimacy of religion. Are people going to run a country differently because they don’t believe in Christ? You people think that Canada is going to go down the toilet because people decide to stop being christians.

Jesus fucking christ. Oops, I just violated one of the commandments. Maybe I will work on the sabbath day or go worship Ganesh. Because not being christian is going to turn the country into a brokethird world country.

And if any of you don’t want to pay for somebody else’s abortion, I think you should have the right to keep your own money in your pockets. You can make this case a lot easier than banning abortion all together.
commented 2015-12-31 16:47:22 -0500
Sam Young: Not planning on having an abortion but don’t want to pay for the abortion of anyone else. Where is my free choice? Sean Pension: You are the one who believes in magic. You believe that complex organisms self organized by themselves without a shred of proof from science that this can happen despite decades of intense research and huge amounts of money being invested into this research. But you have simply accepted this on blind faith because you want to believe it. Your viewpoint is not scientific despite the hopeful rhetoric. This is why they are now spending unlimited billions on space research in the hopes they can find life somewhere else and prove that it can happen. The reason they are looking elsewhere is because they have been unable to account for how complex life arose here in what appears to e an epic fail.
commented 2015-12-31 13:45:17 -0500
The Marxist governments do not work for the people, they work for their ideology. They operated in a hyper aggressive way by their total distrust of the individual; the individual that they hate and want to punish, because society begins with individuals. They don’t want free thought, they want your thoughts to be hard wired, so that you are easier to control, and they can pen all the sheep together, while they whip us with their hatred.
commented 2015-12-31 12:26:21 -0500
I once did a bit of research to determine which countries were the world’s richest. Nine of the top ten were the countries most affected by the Protestant Reformation and were obviously influenced by the so-called Protestant Work Ethic. The exception was Japan.

Where were the socialist-atheistc countries? Far down the list. One only has to read a bit of history to understand why. Forced “equality” dampens all initiative, and in most cases actually punishes it. In the end, everyone suffers, including both the motivated and unmotivated, old and young, male and female. Socialism also rejects absolute truth, which means that the governors of such countries can do as they wish, and they gorge themselves and starve the proletariat. They imprison or shoot the dissenters. They become paranoid and kill their own supporters whom they suspect of treason, supporters that really believed in socialism and found to their great chagrin that absolute truth really was important after all.

Now we read of the difficulties besetting many of those richest countries. Why is that? It couldn’t be because the leftist are chucking all that made those nations great, could it? Stomp out Christianity and thereby stomp out work ethic and honesty and fairness. Christianity is seen to inhibit freedom. It calls my greed wrong. It calls my disrespect of others wrong. It calls my favorite theories wrong. So it has to go, but the results, time after time, every time, is decay, poverty, societal breakdown and crime. The appalling price of calling evil good, and good evil.
commented 2015-12-31 11:37:06 -0500
Whether one votes pro-life or pro-choice is not even relevant…What does God say? Abortion is simply murder…Ask that innocent child if he/she should be ended for someone’s convenience. The woman’s body be damned! She put the child inside her body, she can see it through rather than be guilty of violating the body of another person
commented 2015-12-31 11:14:59 -0500
As usual the true believers of the sacred leftard dogmas engage non sequitur and circular argument where abortion is concerned. And, as usual, their support for fallible generalizations is an all-or-nothing proposition without any shades of gray. Thus we see them advocating for late and full term abortions as being the same issue and they are NOT.

As far as I’m concerned the question of the legality of late and full term abortion is not about “women’s rights” (which are no where enumerated in code or jurisprudence) it, as usual, is a moral issue and the way the rule of law reflects linear moral imperatives (equality of application) -as a moral issue the left are conflicted because by and large they have no moral absolutes, all moral judgements are “relative” ( usually to accommodate the morally conflicted political dogmas they carry around like heavy excess baggage).

The issue I have is not about early term abortion, which serves a dubious purpose (even though I personally find it a repulsive choice in an era of free pre-conception birth control). Early state abortion is a moral rationalization between the woman and her God. My problem is that I feel it is the legal definition of murder to kill a healthy normal child which could survive outside the womb (according to the CMA a child can survive premature birth at 20 weeks). AFAIC this is a question of the state abandoning its duty to protect an innocent citizen from man slaughter due to medical misadventure via conspiracy – they(medical professionals) know this is a fully functioning human yet they still conspire to premeditated infanticide thus breaking their professional oaths and their licencing conditions.

I can only speculate what would drive a medical practitioner to do this but, seeing the lucrative market for stem cells ( the ghoulish Planned Parenthood scandals still fresh in the news cycte), fetal tissue markets and medical abortion fees, I can only summarize the medical profession has unprincipled avaricious scumbags as does the law profession and the political professions. For those who neither benefit from these crimes nor have any chance of experiencing them, to support such immoral an unethical professional behaviourand the state’s compromised rule of law, shows a deep disrespect for human life, a total disregard for the equitable rule of law or a morbidly ignorant understanding of the issue.
commented 2015-12-31 10:43:27 -0500
Sam Young said 9 hours ago, “But don’t stand in the way of other people, with your beliefs. This is what christians do.”

And people like you do not?

Of all the groups of people on this planet, Christians “push” their beliefs the least, are the least aggressive. They just voice their opinions, but even that is too much for people like you.

Others, like the leftist/socialists force their beliefs through law and kangaroo courts like the Human Rights Commission.

And have you seen how the socialist “social justice warriors” and the new “femanazies” push their beliefs by starting movements that boycott businesses until they close their doors and by starting law suits or taking people to the Human Rights Commissions to force them to pay massive fines?

Or how about the wave of leftist/socialists judges at all levels of our legal system who rule contrary to the law their are sworn to uphold so they can push their socialist beliefs? We have seen that a number of times in the past couple of decades.

And how about all those “pro-choice” activists who force their beliefs on others through litigation?

So please Sam Young, do not attack Christians because they express their beliefs when so many that are not Christians force their beliefs on others. Christians do not force their beliefs on people.
commented 2015-12-31 10:25:57 -0500
Beautifully expressed Sheila.
commented 2015-12-31 10:00:59 -0500
Sean Penson – what a simplistic view of a complex subject. I’ll hold on to may faith, and await the return of the one true God! Come Lord Jesus, we are waiting for your justice.
commented 2015-12-31 09:57:27 -0500
One can only hope that those elected have a conscience and will go against this reincarnation of Hitler, Justin Trudeau!
commented 2015-12-31 08:58:21 -0500
Sean Penson said: “Drew, a man doesn’t have to carry that thing within his body for nine months, does he? It’s the right of the woman to terminate her pregnancy for whatever reason SHE has. Yes, even to spite her husband or boyfriend! That thing within her could be considered no different from a cyst or a form of cancer.” Or a blob of snot? Sounds like Jimmy Duh Silva!
commented 2015-12-31 08:31:28 -0500
@ Glenn Craig. You are wrong again. I am a lawyer. Under Canadian law a newborn is regarded as a human being once the birthing is complete and she is separated from the mother.
commented 2015-12-31 08:25:59 -0500
Sam, thank’s to socialized medical care agree or disagree everyone must pay. Also, stop with the victim complex, the video is discussing a political party that forbids it’s members from being pro-life. If you have disagreements about the pro-life position that is fine, however do you truly thing people should not be able to hold that position? The liberal party is free to be a thought monolith, however, that should not stop the critics from voicing their concerns over it though.
commented 2015-12-31 07:00:22 -0500
Drew, don’t tell me that you believe in magic do you? I thought you were too rational to be a believer in magical beings in the sky? Too bad. I can see how wonderful and peaceful this world is that the magical being abandoned is.…That’s alright. Just go on and believe in your false security blanket all you want. When we die, we return back to nothingness
commented 2015-12-31 06:52:51 -0500
Drew, a man doesn’t have to carry that thing within his body for nine months, does he? It’s the right of the woman to terminate her pregnancy for whatever reason SHE has. Yes, even to spite her husband or boyfriend! That thing within her could be considered no different from a cyst or a form of cancer.
commented 2015-12-31 02:48:45 -0500
The difference is, there isn’t a shared belief amongst atheists on the abortion issue, the same way some other groups, religious included, do.
commented 2015-12-31 01:55:34 -0500
Sharia says no to abortion, gonna be funny when that battle happens.
commented 2015-12-31 01:49:47 -0500
I love how men get no choice, why cant a man have a choice to have nothing to do with the child if he does not want the kid? It would not be forcing the women to do anything with her body, he would just be released and have no claim to the child? OH YEAH SEXISM! Idiots like Sam Young think only Christians are against abortion. Many atheists are as well Sam, why not tell them what you say to Christians? Oh yeah you are an atheist coward who says things then cries like a baby when someone challenges you on them. LMAO!
commented 2015-12-31 01:48:33 -0500
Why is it that so many of you just jump to the conclusion that I am some kind of a communist or socialist? I have voted for Harper for every chance I had, so don’t tell me that my political beliefs are going to turn Canada into a gun free debt ridden hellhole.

If you are against abortion, then don’t get one. If you are a man, and don’t want your woman to get an abortion, then I suggest you don’t knock up a pro choice woman.

But don’t stand in the way of other people, with your beliefs. This is what christians do. You take your self righteous beliefs, and think that you are better than everybody else. You use your religion as a form of social control. Anybody that does not do the same as you, is automatically labelled as some kind of a hellbound pagan sinner.

How many of you christians actually get off your butts and do good for society, this side of barking at others for not being christian enough? It seems like a lot of you would rather act like you own this website, and have the right to lay down the law on who can or can not make a comment here. Hate to break it to you, your commander in chief Ezra would never agree with you on this, as he would like everybody to come and visit the rebel.

And I will say it one more time. I voted for Stephen Harper.
commented 2015-12-31 01:46:32 -0500
Kelly Weber if it is only your choice then you pay for it.
commented 2015-12-31 01:45:18 -0500
Sam Young quit applying your beliefs to everyone else loser. This is Christians having other beliefs forced on them , funny how you are OK with that you pathetic hypocrite.
commented 2015-12-31 01:05:09 -0500
Rebelation, why don’t you take your own advice and move to some shit hole in the middle east. Sounds like you’d be right at home there.
commented 2015-12-30 23:35:38 -0500
Do we have to wait till ‘hell freezes over’ before Catholics will have the guts to call out the wolves in sheep’s clothing who are in their midst. My goodness, the passion this baby killer has shows we are talking about the 2nd coming of Henry Mongentaler here – Justin Trudeau.
commented 2015-12-30 23:22:09 -0500
I believe a woman must have the right to choose; I would hope that she would choose to have the child.
commented 2015-12-30 23:07:41 -0500
Further to my earlier comment, I never did understand the merits of the pro choice debate……but I do know this:
It’s amazing how the pro-choicers also scream “OH MY GOD!!!” when death stares them in the face, how fervently they also pray for loved ones who are clinging to life, oh how they also offer their own lives or give anything or give up everything just to hold on to those who death is ripping from their lives….. and in the next breath wouldn’t even blink twice about killing off that same precious spark of life, as if they were grand masters of it in the first place.. that is the pinnacle of pro-choice intelligence.

What on earth has caused us to reach this point where we have become so without a soul? the answer is simple….It is our distaste for life itself, we hate ourselves so much that we wage war on each other, kill each other and snuff out life even at it’s earliest stage. We have sold our soul and lost our humanity in the process.

I pray that we may be forgiven for such ignorance.
commented 2015-12-30 23:05:11 -0500
Sam Young. No Sam, this country, which no doubt you think is a great one, is great because of it’s Freedoms, Rule of Law etc, Right? Well those are Christian-Judeo values. Yes sir, hate to tell you, but we have Christians to thank. And if you don’t like those things – MOVE! GET OUT!! As a Lefty imbecile, you don’t believe in borders anyways, right? So GO! I’m non-religious Sam, but I’m smart enough to know which side of the bread my butter is on. And I’m smart enough to know that Socialism and Communism, don’t work! If they did, Cuba would be rich, the centre of innovation, and we’d be poor. But that’s not how it is, is it Sam? Now either self-depopulate, or get out!
commented 2015-12-30 22:46:53 -0500
Kelly Weber. What a sexist comment! Men get no say in the matter as it stands, which no doubt, you think it’s how should be – don’t you? Even though the man would have to support the child, get no say in it’s upbringing, and possibly his life turned upside down. Would YOU stand for that Kelly? I have lots of bad news for you. First, it’s not “the woman’s body” (hence her choice). The baby’s body is the baby’s body, and the mother’s – the mother’s. The mother is just the carrier! No doubt, you LOOOOOVE Sweeden – right? Well, in Sweeden, men get a say if a child is to be aborted. THAT – is equality. In the Middle East, women get NO SAY! The husband decides. Still wanna cry me a river? Do you think us men should mount a civil war to gain back some rights Kelly? If not, what do you suggest we do? Oh, and btw – your comment was off base in the first place, as Sheila – the reporter – is FEMALE!!! So yes, you’d still be having this conversation, even if men were oppressed from comment as you’d like them to be (fascist!!).
And out of curiosity Kelly – do you see yourself as some sort of victim, or underdog????
commented 2015-12-30 21:44:31 -0500
Kelly Webber: So by your logic only black people should speak out about racism and slavery. Never mind the courageous efforts of those who were white who fought slavery through the underground railroad or the hundreds of thousands who died in the civil war who weren’t white. Sorry but the argument you offer is fatally flawed. By the way since pro choice means I have no choice but to fund abortion through my taxes against my will you are entitled to my opinion free of charge and my vote on the matter.