March 29, 2016

Right wing youth on the rise: Talking about the future of conservatism with Derek Ackerman, Julie Borowski

Lauren SouthernArchive

The future of the conservative movement appears to be extremely volatile while the political landscape changes and youth move further and further left.

Young people on the right are idolizing more extreme figures like Donald Trump, to counter the overwhelming left-wing influence over media, education and government.

In tonight's episode, I discuss the future of the young right and all its factions with "Disdain for Plebs" page moderator Derek Ackerman and libertarian commentator Julie Borowski.

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commented 2016-04-25 07:27:39 -0400
Some rough spots. There’s the odd staring-at-the-camera moment prior to cutaway, which is an improvement over the premature look-away. On talk shows, the cut-to-commercial is covered by a lean-in for some small talk. Or small-talk with a co-host. Your guests are remote, so you don’t have those options. Cards and pen are your props. Shuffling through the cards or crossing things out, or checkmarks or (the best ever move, IMO) the Dennis Miller “I am outta here” covers your exit.
commented 2016-04-17 13:56:26 -0400
Cruz has certainly stooped to a low level a few times, but it was against those on the right.
commented 2016-04-14 21:00:00 -0400
Bang on about the leftist school system..

The bottom line is that honesty/integrity is the hallmark of conservatism and deceit/pretense is the hallmark of leftism. Those who cannot stand the truth run to the left and stick their ‘bird brain" infected heads in the sand…conservatives cannot lie, so those who believe all sides are deceitful can never come around to understanding that only Conservatism will save the country. Socialism is invariably a dead end street. It, by definition, grows massive unsustainable bureaucracy. It cannot create the enormous wealth needed to support the bureaucracy and it drives industry away with unreasonable regulations, making it a sure road to national poverty and endless misery for all the people, except the few leaders who manage the peoples’ wealth, and who eventually have to become more and more intolerant and militarily oppressive as the people eventually see that there is no light at the end of the tunnel and rise up only to be imprisoned, as has happened in Cuba, China, Russia and all other countries subscribing to this ideology.
commented 2016-04-12 19:49:15 -0400
“Young people on the right are idolizing more extreme figures like Donald Trump, to counter the overwhelming left-wing influence over media, education and government.”

Yet, mainstream Conservative parties and the mainstream Conservative media refuse to acknowledge this, and will not attempt to go anyway to the social right to fight and and counter-act such left-wing influence.

Why? Cowardice and Laziness in not wanting to deal with the inevitable accusations of bigotry any time the social left is questioned, and fight back against it, by maybe even making a few accusations of bigotry and intolerance against the left that the Rebel constantly informs us of.

Just stick of tired old “fiscal conservatism” which is BS because they will never be fiscally conservative against any bigot card playing social liberal social engineering or group.

That is why Harper never bothered to eliminate billions spent on failed or entitled multiculturalism and official bilingualism, and gave more money to Feminists like the male bashing White Ribbon campaign
commented 2016-04-10 21:23:27 -0400
acuuna commented – "conservatism is dead. cultural libertarianism is the next wave. ride it. "

Absolutely ! Tory conservatism is too top down exclusionist, liberalism is now authoritarian socialist statism in drag and the Dipps and sundry left end rabble are hard line nihilist marxists. – None have any solutions because they are all premised on lies and fallacious ideologies.

True free market capitalism never existed here so strike the Conservative economic fairytales
True democratic civil liberty never existed here so spike the liberal electioneering about freedom.
Socialists spend all their time segregating society and polarizing it while bankrupting the productive
Marxist nihilists live off the scraps of the productive class so parasites have nothing positive to offer

Populism is the only rational political answer for free state public affairs – there are enough young people becoming sick of the sleaze and nihilism of left of center politics and the conservatives have no more grass roots/populist guidance so they are a rudderless ship right now who have no policy except to offer the opposite of what the liberal policy is.

Populist libertarianism is the rudder the CPC needs to ride the next wave of the organic movement away from statist political solutions.
commented 2016-04-10 15:31:20 -0400
Lauren, Fascism is a marxist variant and is not Conservative.
commented 2016-04-04 20:02:16 -0400
Drives me “NUTS” when the uninformed calls fascism right-wing . . .
Fascism is a product of the LEFT. Mussolini INVENTOR of fascism, was a devout Socialist !
The first police State that was both Leftist and intensely nationalist was of course the French regime of Napoleon Bonaparte. (Even the personality cult surrounding Napoleon prefigured similar cults in the later Leftist tyrannies of Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao, Kim Il Sung etc.) Bonaparte’s regime was as short-lived (1802-1814 vs. 1933 – 1945) and as salutary a warning as Hitler’s however, and it was not until the 20th century that such a concept again came prominently to the fore in the hands of the Italian dictator Mussolini. Mussolini came to power much before Hitler but was in fact even more Leftist than Hitler. Although generally regarded as the founder of Fascism, in his early years Mussolini was one of Italy’s leading Marxist theoreticians. He was even an intimate of Lenin. He first received his well-known appellation of Il Duce (“the leader”) while he was still a member of Italy’s “Socialist” (Marxist) party and, although he had long been involved in democratic politics, he gained power by essentially revolutionary means (the march on Rome). Even after he had gained power, railing against “plutocrats” remained one of his favourite rhetorical ploys. He was, however, an instinctive Italian patriot and very early on added a nationalistic appeal to his message, thus being the first major far-Left figure to deliberately add the attraction of nationalism to the attraction of socialism. He was the first 20th century far-Leftist to learn the lesson that Hitler and Stalin after him used to such “good” effect.
Nor was Mussolini a socialist in name only. He also put socialist policies into action. Thanks to him, Fascist Italy had in the thirties what was arguably the most comprehensive welfare State in the world at that time (Gregor, 1979).
It could be said, in fact, that Italian Fascism was noticeably closer to Communism than Nazism was. This is not only because of the influence of Marxism on Mussolini’s ideology but because Mussolini’s nationalism was sentimental and nostalgic rather than the intellectual and ideological nationalism of Hitler. Thus it is primarily the degree of ideological focus on nationalism that distinguishes the three forms of authoritarian socialism: Nazism, Fascism and Communism.
commented 2016-04-02 16:04:54 -0400
Absolutely great to see Lauren and Julie, two of my favorite libertarians. :)
commented 2016-04-02 01:50:37 -0400
“Privatising the school system” Boy do I agree. As long as the left has control over education there is no hope for Conservatives, in this country at least.
commented 2016-04-02 00:17:28 -0400
Damn, what an awkward douche this guy is here, lost me at “it’s just a meme”… Sorry bud, “meme” is for hipsters… Then Lauren asks where people can find him and he says with one word “Facebook”… FUCK FACEBOOK. FUCK MEMES. TRUMP 2016.
commented 2016-04-01 14:33:44 -0400
Lauren, as an almost senior, I find your show a good source of information from the perspective of the youth of our country. I can listen to and or read all the commentators and guests The Rebel provides but your show has been the most challenging regarding wrapping my head around the mindsets of our younger thinkers. To be able to understand (at least to a degree) what your generation is up against politically, socially, economically etc., from your point of view is enlightening and important for all generations.
commented 2016-03-31 02:12:05 -0400
It seems that even in this day, most people in general do not have a consensus on the meanings of conservative, liberal, libertarian, etc. This is why you can have somebody like Bernie Sanders come out, and convince many democrats that socialism is a good thing.

Definitions simplified:
Conservative – high economic freedom, low social freedom. Examples: low taxes and gays have no rights.
Liberal – low economic freedom, high social freedom. Examples: High taxes, and gays get full rights.
Libertarian – high economic freedom, and high social freedom. Example: Low taxes and gays have full rights.
Totalitarian – Low economic freedom, and low social freedom. Example: High taxes and gays have no rights.

So in other words, libertarians want the government to be as minimal as possible. They don’t want the government to take away their money, or to tell people what life they can or can not have. Libertarians want the pot, abortions, separation of church and state, ride sharing apps, free speech, etc. This would be combined with the government not taxing people to death, and the government letting social services to be delivered by private charities that are not funded by tax dollars.

Think of libertarianism as the best of both worlds, without any of the bad. Though I am sure many of you think pot, abortion, and gay marriage is a bad thing.
commented 2016-03-30 23:13:52 -0400
I’m pretty sure I don’t know what libertarians like yourself want Canada to look like. I’m a senior and when I hear the term Libertarian, I think 70’s flower power and free love. Then reality set in and I got a job and I became a NDP/liberal/conservative (in that order). I’m all for abolition of the nanny state; but then we have to ensure that each citizen is a moral and ethical actor so that government doesn’t have to butt in. The fact that libertarians come in all sorts of flavours from far left to far right activists will for ever be a problem made worse by the Internet which as you point out acts as a validation magnet.
I voted for Harper’s conservative vision for Canada because his social conservative principals and policies far outweighed his less than perfect conservative economic policies. Conservatives by definition work to improve a system ONLY when its broken i.e, they resist change for change sake alone. Perhaps you could spend some time next show outlining what your Libertarian vision of Canada is.
commented 2016-03-30 19:20:45 -0400
I now understand the format. Youth to youth. So I withdraw my criticism of the first show.

Libertarianism is right and left. We are just people who want to be left alone to live our lives. My brother comes to it from the left, whereas I am from the right. We just want to live our lives and be respected for doing so. That was the whole purpose of the 1960’s, but that entire concept has been confiscated, even by the neo-libertarians, for political reasons.

True libertarians? Fremen of the Land. But even they have been taken over by crooks who want to use the philosophy to take political advantage.
commented 2016-03-30 14:47:05 -0400
Lauren, you give me hope that there is someone under 30 who cares about our country. I am a fiscal conservative leaning towards a libertarian approach. A true conservative government would do more to get disaffected youth off the couch in their parents basement by removing the useless barriers imposed by the government on businesses.
commented 2016-03-30 14:34:16 -0400
In the past, youth politics have been limited to children of political parents. A large number of children who were raised with there never being a newspaper in the house or regular family meals had little access to politics. Now with the internet and videos politics are accessible to a wider audience.
commented 2016-03-30 12:41:49 -0400

I think we are further down the rabbit hole than that. I feel it needs to be 24.
commented 2016-03-30 11:11:26 -0400
Agreed Tom Green. I think there are way too many uneducated voters,of any age out there (by that I mean that they don’t do their homework on the political issues of the day and the parties); but, specifically young people who have no life experience and no interest in learning what different parties stand for. They just want hand outs and have a “whats in it for me?” attitude.

Another point I would make, agree with me or not, I am not a big fan of Libertarians. Not because of what they stand for, because I do agree with civil liberties; however, my issue is that they are splitting the right. Prime Minister Harper and Peter McKay already united the right a decade ago and these fringe groups are splitting it again. Conservatism is not dead. They maintained a steady 32% approval rating throughout the election so that, to me, indicates that it isn’t dead. Now the Conservatives are trying to re-brand themselves toward the center. If anything I think they should merge with Libertarians. If we want to defeat the lefties then we have to have a united right. At least that’s the way I see it. Unfortunately we won’t be able to have a Mike Harris-like “common sense revolution”. The worldview of many people today hinders that.
commented 2016-03-30 10:23:51 -0400
Youth are stupid! The voting age should be 21 plus. How can you expect them to understand anything?
commented 2016-03-30 10:05:10 -0400
conservatism is dead.
cultural libertarianism is the next wave.
ride it.
commented 2016-03-30 10:03:40 -0400
All extremists are leftwing idiots, who act out and have temper tantrums when they don’t get their own way. It’s painful watching just how stupid some people really are.
commented 2016-03-30 10:00:00 -0400
Great show now I know 2 more groups that will represent my view , didn’t hear about the libertarian party of Canada, and that Ackerman guy looks clever.
commented 2016-03-30 09:56:24 -0400
Most of today’s youth can see right through the idiocy of of the extreme wright wing. It is one thing to be conservative, but another to be a nutty extremist one.
commented 2016-03-30 09:51:32 -0400
Donald Trump is a professional reality TV show host. He knows nothing of politics, but only how to manipulate the media. If you dimwits want someone like that to run America, be my guest, but I’ll bet all of you out of your dividend checks Donald Trump will never be president.
commented 2016-03-30 09:29:37 -0400
Sam Young asked, "How is Donald Trump extreme? If anything, he has been criticized for not being conservative enough. "

A tactic of the socialists, to demonize the one you hate. Lying to do this is okay in the eyes of the socialists because the end always justifies the means.

Based upon everything I have heard Trump say, he is not extreme, nor is he a racists. He is, however, loud, egotistical and unafraid of the established socialists in the media and political elite class … all qualities that are sorely needed in the US today. Someone has to smash the stranglehold they have on American society if America is to survive. That is why I hope Trump wins the election and becomes forty fifth president.
commented 2016-03-30 09:20:10 -0400
Egil said, “Paul McCullough; there is nothing in common with socialism, conservatism and libertarian. Libertarians want smaller government and more participation by the electorate. The very opposite of Liberals, Conservatives and the NDP.”

Egil, you are wrong about Conservatives. Real Conservative (the type we have not seen for a while) want smaller government.

Our most recent Conservative governments both provincial and federal did not hold to true conservatives policies, of which one of the main policies is small government.
commented 2016-03-30 09:14:04 -0400

You think you are confused? Trying to read your comment is confusing.
commented 2016-03-30 09:11:40 -0400
Excellent second show, Lauren!

I never knew there were 1) so many youth that leaned towards more conservative politics, 2) that there were many youth at all that even paid attention to politics, and 3) that there were so many different right leaning (if right leaning is the correct term) groups. Organizing them into a political party that can take politics back from the socialists will be very difficult, if near impossible. It might be like trying to herd cats.

I look forward to your next show.
commented 2016-03-30 07:43:45 -0400
Sniffing noise can anyone smell piss???
commented 2016-03-30 02:25:19 -0400
How is Donald Trump extreme? If anything, he has been criticized for not being conservative enough.

The right wingers just want a leader that does not cave to the left. Is that too much to ask?