September 17, 2015

Leaders Debate: Ezra Levant explains why every Canadian should be worried

Rebel Staff

Stephen Harper — whatever else you may think about him — has a mastery of Canada’s economy. It’s not just that he’s an economist by profession. It’s that he has steered Canada through a series of world economic crises since the 2008 Great Recession. Real life experience — what works and what doesn’t. And unlike his thinly-briefed opponents, he knows exactly how much the government has spent on everything from veterans to bridges. 

 Justin Trudeau and Thomas Mulcair couldn’t care less about reality — they have other things on their minds.

Watch: Ezra Levant's reaction to The Globe and Mail's Leader's Debate

Watch: Brian Lilley sets the stage on each leader’s economic policy.



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commented 2015-09-22 11:29:49 -0400
I don’t know where it started that Harper was an economist but it wasn’t from him. He has a Masters in Economics, which gives him a better foundation than drama teacher, or lawyer for the entitled.
A background in Economics is nothing to shake a stick at.
commented 2015-09-22 01:28:47 -0400
The Conservatives must be doing something right. The latest polls I saw have them pulling out ahead—almost a full percentage point of the Liberals and a half a percentage point ahead of the NDP. This despite Harper’s exhausted appearance and the media reporting on all the foibles and weakness of their campaign. I suspect their new campaign manager, Inger Strojberg, has something to do with it.
commented 2015-09-21 22:38:46 -0400
Bill Elder said this, “Harper had an MA in economics and he was chief accountant for Imperial oil” which is a load of BS.
Harper was born and raised in Toronto, the first of three sons of Margaret (née Johnston) and Joseph Harris Harper, an accountant at Imperial Oil.
He did work in the mailroom though.
He then moved to Edmonton, Alberta, where he found work in the mail room at Imperial Oil. Later, he advanced to work on the company’s computer systems
commented 2015-09-21 11:06:42 -0400
That there need to be strict rules guiding moderators, regardless of what media outlet they are from.
also (2?) that Harper was the only grown up on the stage. Mulcair and Justin are both really too smarmy for the average Canadian when it comes down to it. I think they are both losing support the more they smile and speak. Justin was hilarious to watch. A truly epic drama queen.
commented 2015-09-20 22:39:40 -0400
Let’s refocus. What is the number one thing people took away from watching this debate?
commented 2015-09-20 22:30:50 -0400
Okay Liza, I understand and will try to stick to the issues more from now on.
commented 2015-09-20 21:34:15 -0400
I remember the Liberals and NDP threatening to bring down the minority government unless the PCS created a deficit budget? Can any thinking Canadian argue our nation would have negotiated the financial crisis of 2008 under Trudeau or Mulcair without a massive calamity.
commented 2015-09-20 18:29:01 -0400
“Stephen Harper — whatever else you may think about him — has a mastery of Canada’s economy. It’s not just that he’s an economist by profession.” The first two sentences are first-rate lies. Steven Harper has NEVER worked as an economist unless you want to consider the LAST 8 CONSECUTIVE DEFICITS his failed apprenticeship. Harper is no economic genius, and so the myth the cons have created is now starting to disintegrate. Nice try though. The past liberal governments under Martin were far mor successful, bar none. Harper has the worst economic record of any PM since R.B. Bennett. Now why don’t you try to start telling the truth for a change instead of your propaganda which, essentially, is FULL of LIES.
commented 2015-09-20 14:54:17 -0400

Why can’t you just skip over my posts and discussions?

Erin and I could probably go for a coffee and have a good discussion, but I am sure the idea of you having coffee with me probably disgusts you in some capacity. I think that’s very telling on the difference between you and Erin as conservatives.
commented 2015-09-20 14:49:29 -0400

Great post as always and I appreciate your comments. I wish other people here could what you see.

I am pretty sure that Jesse Brown set up Canadaland to be completely funded by his listeners/supporters. Since Canadaland holds the left and right wing media accountable, I think he doesn’t want to be in any sort of position where he feels like he has to respect the advertiser. Clearly he could get advertisers if he wanted to – like The Rebel’s sex/dating ads, but Canadaland is truly supported by his audience and happily so.

I think Jesse is currently having a pledge drive due to some new programs that he wants to start on Canadaland, so that’s why he pushing for donations at the moment. I have to say that I would much rather be funded by the people who support what I do or having to rely on advertisers – who don’t really give a shit about what I do, but want to whore out their product.

I do think the Liberal ads in The Rebel videos are something that Ezra can’t control – since most videos that I have watched on YouTube in general – have had the same Liberal ads. Justin has YouTube covered it seems.

I set up an email account if you want to contact me.
commented 2015-09-20 10:14:38 -0400
I am very tired of every discussion being about you know who. I don’t care, sorry, I think he is a pest and a deliberate distraction. I don’t come here to read about Jimmy.
commented 2015-09-20 04:20:44 -0400
Jimmy, I would like to chat in real time, but don’t know how to arrange that without giving out personal information in this forum. I post under my real name, but displaying more than that makes me uncomfortable. Do you have any suggestions?
commented 2015-09-20 04:18:16 -0400
One last comment, I do wonder whether TheRebel sees any money from the Liberal Party for displaying its ads in videos, and if not, how/why these ads are being displayed. I’m not really sure how that works, but am very interested in finding out. If anyone has the time and the inclination to do the legwork, I’d be grateful.
commented 2015-09-20 04:11:21 -0400
Liza, agreed. So much petty bickering, but this debate was nothing compared to Question Period in the House of Commons. And at least there, people can’t hide behind the veil of online anonymity like they do with online commenting.
True, I think Jimmy (like most of us) has been guilty at some point or another of using inflammatory language, and I’ve called him out on it, just as I’ve called out Charleton G, or Joan Abernathy, or anyone else doing the same thing. In fact, I recall Jimmy making several admissions about his language style in an effort to demonstrate that it’s not meant as a personal attack. And before people think I’m being hypocritical or sanctimonious, let me just say that I’m certainly not innocent, either. However, instead of letting first impressions define my opinion of a person (based solely on online comments, which, devoid of all the physical signifiers in face-to-face communication, are easily misconstrued), I think it’s better to keep an open mind.
The reason I speak out on Jimmy’s behalf is the same reason I would speak out to support anyone I perceive as being unfairly judged. So what if he made some nasty comments in the past? Lately, he’s been focused on simply presenting his legitimately-held opinions in a reasonable way, and occasionally having to defend himself from personal attacks made by other commenters. In my view, the phrase “once a troll, always a troll” is just a platitude people tell themselves in order to justify ignoring someone whose views are unpopular, and to assuage their own guilty consciences in the process. It’s a human tendency, and again, I’m guilty too.
Charleton, you’ll note that Jimmy did respond to my comment, pretty much point-by-point. That’s all I would hope to receive from anyone here, and I like debating with Jimmy (and for that matter Liza, Peter Netterville, and several others here) because he takes the time to respond to my arguments. But go right ahead and write him off as a troll, if that makes you feel better. I just prefer engaging because I usually learn something new in the process. Plus, it forces me to test my own ideas and assumptions, which are constantly evolving. Stagnation, monotony, and unflinching confidence in the superiority of one’s beliefs just breeds radicalism. In short, I like being challenged.
Liza and Charleton, you both made the same important point, however, and I should therefore clarify my previous statement about Jesse Brown. I called him a prankster (which he is), but that’s not all he is, and while I don’t tend to agree with his more-often-than-not left-wing views, I would admit that he is at least trying to provide a public service, as Jimmy argued. In particular, the “Disclosure” section on was particularly refreshing, and I have to give Brown some credit for it. Although clearly ideologically opposed, he even invited Joe Clark to be a guest on his podcast. That deserves some respect (for both Brown AND Clark, I would say).
Basically, the more independent media there is in Canada, the better. I think a lot of us here are on the same page with that. So would you at least agree that, albeit from a different (conservative) vantage point, TheRebel is just trying to do the same thing? Diminishing Jesse Brown by reducing him to just a prankster was a mistake, and was essentially no different from the way some commenters here dismiss you by calling you a troll. I realize that, and apologize. But would you do me a favour, and at least concede that your less-than-stellar opinion of Ezra Levant might negatively taint how you perceive his news reporting and editorial commentary? I mean, have you ever read any of his books? Did you ever read The Western Standard (if you’re not a westerner, chances are slim)? Do you know the details of how he was persecuted — and ultimately vindicated — by the Human Rights Tribunal? I’m not assuming you’re ignorant of these things, but I can’t help but think if you were aware, you might see him differently. You still might not agree with him on a multitude of issues, but you might have a better appreciation for who he is and what he does.
Finally, I would just add that while certainly appears not to have third-party advertising, you can hardly click on anything without being asked to make a donation. I have no problem with that, I’m just noting it. But Jimmy, did you know that the reason behind the lack of advertising on is because it couldn’t attract or maintain corporate sponsorships? If Wiser’s Whiskey hadn’t “wised” up, so to speak (sorry, I couldn’t help it), and rejected a sponsorship request, would probably be swimming in liquor ads instead of crowd-funding pleas.
commented 2015-09-19 15:46:25 -0400

Are you bothered by Erin’s comments directed at you?
commented 2015-09-19 15:34:11 -0400
Gee Nathan you are wrong. Fact check ????
commented 2015-09-19 15:30:57 -0400
Jimmy Da moron of course you’re too thick to be bothered by comments directed ar you. I’m sure you get this a lot moron.
commented 2015-09-19 12:20:07 -0400

I am not bothered at all by the comments some people make, but I am glad that you are able to see what I am talking about when it comes to certain conservatives here like Charlton.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree about Jesse Brown. I think he provides a much needed service – calling out both the left and right media on their bullshit and making sure that the media is held accountable. Where as Ezra is trying to sell an agenda.

I am not sure that they are allowing Liberal ads as much as being forced the Liberal ads due to YouTube. I highly doubt that the Liberal party would want to advertise here.

Canadaland has no ads.

I thought Simon Haupt made some pretty serious errors and omissions – thus claims he made in the article were not true. I guess we will have to agree to disagree there as well.

I really appreciate your comments and I will keep posting. I can’t say this enough – I wish everyone here was like you – instead of so many conservatives here that just bring the crazy. It’s always great reading your comments and I enjoy talking to you. I wish The Rebel had like a messenger thing, so we could talk in real time.
commented 2015-09-19 11:38:04 -0400
Uh Nathan – Harper had an MA in economics and he was chief accountant for Imperial oil – I’m not very impressed with harper’s parliamentary performance but let’s stick to the facts and not misrepresent his true accomplishments.
commented 2015-09-19 11:26:14 -0400
Harper is not an economist by profession. He took some courses in it at uni and did a research project that is not very related to the actual practice of economics. Also, no one ever has employed him as an economist, and rest assured, after his tenure as prime minister, no one will ever employ him as an economist.

Most of his “economic policies” are boutique tax credits designed to buy votes, and aren’t actually very good economy policy.

You have to look long and hard to find an economist who is actually willing to back Harper’s “economic policy” as better than alternatives.

Also, consider that in the fall of 2008, when the entire rest of the world was bracing for the recession, Harper was blithely campaigning trying to convince people that everything was OK.
commented 2015-09-19 10:55:50 -0400
I’d really like to hear from the three parties without all the bickering, I can get that anytime when I tune into cpac and watch the House in session. There needs to be some time set aside in these debates for each to have the floor unhindered. Interrupters need to be shut up…Justin! Maybe the two waiting for their turn during this individual speaking time need to be off the stage.

Speaking of bickering, when Jimmy first came on the scene most were attempting to be fairly civil. Then after being called fucking stupid, fucked, asshole, everyone else’s language loosened up when addressing Jimmy. Rich, he is being defended against those who give him back what he dishes out.
There is no lack of dissenting opinion here. A troll is just a troll.
commented 2015-09-19 09:58:20 -0400
Viewing this video confirms my belief that I did not miss anything by not watching the debate. Stephen Harper is the only real choice. He is the only one of the three major party leaders who is not from the anti-English province of Quebec.
commented 2015-09-19 07:50:27 -0400
Erin it’s been 9 hours since you posted that diatribe, have you heard back from troll Jimmy?
He’s not interested in a debate with anyone here. Sharpen your skills on detecting trolls.
commented 2015-09-19 07:44:11 -0400
Funny Erin you insult Jesse Brown. “little more than a prankster” may not be asshole but Jimmy deserves every insult he gets here.
commented 2015-09-19 07:40:04 -0400
Erin Jimmy came here insulting Ezra. I suggest you read more of his crap before you stick your foot in it. Jimmy, Brinkman and Rudden are trolls who attack everything the Rebel does. I’ll out this down to ignorance.
commented 2015-09-18 22:15:38 -0400
Jimmy, I hope you ignore the belittling comments posted by some people here about you. Charleton G, et al, you would be much more persuasive if you gave up the name-calling. I have a hard time reading or taking anything you say seriously when it always starts off with calling someone an asshole or a moron. And it just tends to prove Jimmy’s point about the more extreme leanings of some Rebel commenters.
Jimmy, I have spent some time on and listened to the particular podcast you linked, but I still disagree. Jesse Brown, to me, is little more than a prankster who, like a stopped clock, just happens to get it right occasionally. Ezra Levant is a commenter, but that makes him no less a journalist, in my view.
Let me ask you this: if TheRebel and Ezra are just “shills” for the Conservative Party, why do they allow Liberal campaign ads on their news videos? Does show Conservative election ads? I’m not absolutely certain, but my guess would be NO. And as for the Conservative Party supposedly buying Facebook likes, I’ve not yet seen any compelling evidence of this. I have, however, seen evidence of all the parties using social media to gain support and votes. I’ve also seen plenty of evidence of misuse of tax dollars by other parties, like the NDP (do you recall the multi-million dollar NDP satellite office expense spending scandal?).
As you might guess, I am always interested in comments to news stories, and wouldn’t have posted a link without reviewing them, so I did happen to read the comments to that Globe & Mail story. Regardless, I found nothing in the comments section that would convince me the reporter (Simon Haupt) made any serious errors or omissions that would render the story incredible.
Despite our differences of opinion, though, please keep posting. It’s good to talk about these things in a calm, sensible way.
commented 2015-09-18 21:34:21 -0400
commented 2015-09-18 16:00:14 -0400
Jimmy moron go away. We’re not going to ignore you loser.
commented 2015-09-18 15:46:28 -0400

So which is it – you want me to go away or you don’t want to ignore me?
commented 2015-09-18 15:24:26 -0400
Jimmy I’m not an extreme conservative at all, I’m right of center. I believe in a mix of socialism and conservatism.