December 02, 2016

Liberal double standard? Carr vows military crackdown on violent anti-pipeline protesters

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Commentator
 

Natural Resources Minister James Carr came to Edmonton to reassure the business community that anti-pipeline activists in BC would be handled appropriately. 

Watch my video to see what Carr said and why I’m not complaining.

But could you imagine the apocalyptic levels of Liberal freak out if one of Stephen Harper's ministers like Greg Rickford or Joe Oliver had implied that Conservatives would use the military to crackdown on protesters? Hoo boy!

I’m old enough to remember that mere suggestion that Stephen Harper would increase military spending was enough to prompt the Liberals to make an attack ad about "soldiers on the streets."

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commented 2016-12-04 21:46:35 -0500
Dan M – you cite the Emergency measures act – the critical point to be seen in it is that the federal armed forces can only be deployed in a province if A) it is an emergency the province cannot contain with its available resorces and B)- the feds must be ASKED to intervene by the province.

There is NO unilateral use of the military by some Fed cabinet wonk. It’s up to the province to call in the military.

This is a good thing.
commented 2016-12-04 21:39:22 -0500
Uh, Ron – the “notwithstanding” clause was installed in the Charter by Peter Lougheed and backed by the Premiers as it offers a safety valve for the PROVINCES to opt out of Charter sections 2, 7-15 only (our civil/legal rights) the rest of the charter (essentially the multi-cult welfare state part is unassailable by a section 33 opt out.

In any event, Harper could have solved nothing you speak of with a section 33 opt out. Section 31 is rigid and states all governments must respect the exclusive jurisdictions in section 91-92 of the BNA act.

Our constitution specifically states that insurrections, riots and civil break down is a matter for the provincial police forces, NOT the federal military – and that’s a good thing, otherwise we’d be no better than Cuba or any other banana republic.

I have faith BC. provincial force (‘E’ division of the RCMP) is capable of containing the shenanigans of a few renegades and commie nihilists.
commented 2016-12-04 14:41:29 -0500
Bill Elder—I am sure you have few faults when it comes to being informed; but one of them is your obvious lack of knowledge when it comes to the meaning of the words" Prime Minister" in the Country of Canada.
Whether Harper or Trudeau, he is the Leader of Canada," meaning he was elected to make the important decisions that will make the Country go forward. Unfortunately Harper also didn’t understand the power that he had, along with the Huge Hammer he carried called, “The Not Withstanding Clause”, which Trumps everything and everyone.
1. He let the CBC live, even though they were partly responsible for booting him from power.
2. He didn’t make an effort to get rid of the Senate, even though his Senate picks were killing his re-election chances.
3. (Back on Subject) He let 8% of BC’s Welfare population push him around when it came to pipelines. Look at the Burnaby Mountain protest, which Ezra and Sun News covered. These Hippies spit in one RCMP face, while they threw dirty garbage at another RCMP. Ezra’s cameraman filmed these savages pushing around a female RCMP, and still Harper didn’t send in the Army; he did nothing.
I could go on and on, but the point is I would admire Trudeau (would not vote for him though) if he called in the Army and gave these disgusting people a few bruises.
If the PM believes it necessary, the Military is for Domestic purposes as much as International purposes.

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commented 2016-12-04 14:28:45 -0500
MIKE BOURNE commented 1 day ago : “Sheila, while Jim Carr vows a crackdown on violent behavior to ensure that people will be kept safe, we should not infer that the peace keepers will necessarily drag away truckloads of frothing goons. More likely, everyone present will be evacuated and the site will be closed in the interest of public safety. It sounds like an excuse to put the whole thing on hold to be restarted when conditions improve (i.e. never)”

Likely an accurate statement……………..
commented 2016-12-04 01:15:01 -0500
After witnessing the communist Chinese pumping a $Million into the “Trudeau foundation” and this oil pipeline approval to the BC ports to service Chinese oil contracts, it’s easy to see who pulls Trudeau’s strings – the fact he’s willing to set the army against his former buddies in the green and aboriginal orgs in the pipeline protest gig is an indication of Liberal party authoritarian reflex and perfidy.

I hope all these lefty utopian interests who trusted this treacherous globalist Trudeau government really experience intense butt-hurt.
commented 2016-12-03 23:38:29 -0500
I identify myself as a conservative, I would like to point out that it would be best for people to support people who do the right thing no matter what political party they’re from. Pointing fingers saying could you imagine if so and so accomplishes nothing but discourage people from doing the right thing.
commented 2016-12-03 13:21:30 -0500
“Military Aid to the Civil Power
Canada
Canada has provisions, similar to the UK’s Military Aid to the Civil Authorities, for military aid to the civil power inscribed in its National Defence Act, an historical inheritance from its days as a British dominion. However, the application is significantly different due to the federal nature of Canada, where the maintenance of “law and order” is the exclusive right and responsibility of the provinces.
The political authority empowered to requisition military aid is therefore the Solicitor General of the affected province, which was provided for under the War Measures Act and currently the Emergencies Act. This request is forwarded directly to the Chief of the Defence Staff (not to the federal government of Canada) who is obliged by law to execute the request. However, the Chief of the Defence Staff alone can determine the nature and level of forces to be committed.
The requesting province may subsequently be billed to pay the cost of the military aid, although the federal government, which does not want to appear “cheap” after a major crisis affecting a province, most often waives it. One exception in recent years resulted from Toronto mayor Mel Lastman’s request for military assistance following a snow storm in 1999, whereby 300 reservists were activated to assist in snow removal after the Ontario government acceded; this deployment was deemed by the Canadian government to be a trivialization of the military’s emergency response role and the requesting authority was billed accordingly.
While the military is legally free to decide how to deal with an issue in regard to which it has been called out, in practice it works under the direction of the police forces or government of the province that has requested its aid. Such requests are made relatively often for specialized resources such as armoured vehicles (e.g. hostage situations) and technical capabilities not possessed by police forces.
They are also called out in the case of police strikes in those provinces that have unionised provincial police forces. Quebec has not hesitated to call on the Army for such help because the Army is the only other agency with French speaking members able to replace striking police; the Royal Canadian Mounted Police has few reserves able to provide a “surge” capability, and its French-speaking capability is more limited.
Significant use of the Canadian Forces in aid of the Quebec civil power includes two relatively recent major civil crises:
the October crisis of 1970
the Oka crisis of 1990
The federal government can and does use the military in aid of its own responsibilities, such as guarding federal buildings and facilities. Since 1993, the Canadian Forces have also provided the country’s federal counter-terrorist forces, replacing the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in that function. (See JTF2 for details of request and control of this capability)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_aid_to_the_civil_power#Canada
commented 2016-12-03 12:25:55 -0500
Well for once I agree with a Liberal. We can’t continue letting the anti military, peace loving socialists continue to disrupt the economy with violence. Full force of the law must be applied.
commented 2016-12-03 12:09:27 -0500
I agree Bill Elder. Sending in the military under these circumstances doesn’t seem appropriate, but damn, I hope the Liberals do it. Just think of the cries from the envirowarriors! That will be one hell of a big spike in Justin’s coffin.
It will be interesting to see how they really do handle these paid sheeple protesters. The Green party is a joke anyway, but Lizzy should be let go as a member of Parliament. She is an activist, same as that flake mayor Robertson is. They shouldn’t be allowed to ‘serve’ in government.

In the case of Caledonia they clearly needed a heavier hand.
commented 2016-12-03 10:02:52 -0500
We, of older age, have witnessed the hypocrisy from the Liberals time and again. Nothing shocks us as we’ve seen most of it before in one form or another (the hypocrisy, the lies, the waste, the double-speak, the nepotism, the creation of new taxes/fees, removal of freedoms, forced immigration). A liberal is a Liberal no matter the level of government, same red tent just different divisions within the tent.

“Natural Resources Minister James Carr came to Edmonton to reassure the business community that anti-pipeline activists in BC would be handled appropriately.”
Someone should have asked him – like the “appropriate handling” of Caledonia or do you mean more like when McGuinty imposed a secret law?

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/matt-gurney-dalton-mcguinty-betrayer-of-caledonia-has-a-lot-of-nerve-to-talk-of-politicized-policing

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-misused-secret-g20-law-in-toronto-mcmurtry-1.637114
http://www.citynews.ca/2010/12/08/mcguinty-wont-apologize-for-secret-law-confusion/
commented 2016-12-03 05:43:08 -0500
The stars must be aligning in some rare formation… Trump wins the American election; Brexit is a go in Britain; Trudeau approves pipelines; Dizzy Lizzy says she will go to jail; Fat Head Hollande will not run for re-election in France; Austrians vote for a right wing party; Bulgarians build anti-immigrant fences … Gosh!… Along with Chicken Little, I do believe The Sky Is Falling!…
commented 2016-12-03 03:33:24 -0500
BILL ELDER commented 6 hours ago
I’m gratified he he is adamant to uphold the rule of law, but military have NO constitutional business enforcing domestic law when we are not at war – very dangerous precedent and an insight into this governments authoritarian statist reflexes – maybe Justin Castro picked up some bad habits hanging with Latin American tyrants.
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Hey Bill… Justin is just using this to polish up his heavy-handed techniques when it comes to instituting martial law… The west better separate long before that happens but I wonder who the soldiers will be shooting at when the time comes, islamic terrorist in our country or the people and taxpayers that pay the salaries of the soldiers and politicians..
This is the kind of shit that happens when the people forget the politicians work for us.
commented 2016-12-03 03:27:22 -0500
When Brad Trost is p.m. he will use the military to throw the Liberals out of Canada… LOL
just kidding but it is wishful thinking
:-)
commented 2016-12-03 01:29:06 -0500
Conservatives are too timid. We’re all mad the military hasn’t been brought in on various occasions! Note to next Conservative Leader; if you don’t have the kahunas to bring in the military – don’t run, you’re not up to the job!
commented 2016-12-03 01:25:59 -0500
Dallas. Projection is one of the main elements in Lefty Psychosis!
commented 2016-12-03 01:24:46 -0500
Honestly, the left are such childish hypocrites that it’s tiresome!
commented 2016-12-03 00:52:03 -0500
Sheila, while Jim Carr vows a crackdown on violent behavior to ensure that people will be kept safe, we should not infer that the peace keepers will necessarily drag away truckloads of frothing goons. More likely, everyone present will be evacuated and the site will be closed in the interest of public safety. It sounds like an excuse to put the whole thing on hold to be restarted when conditions improve (i.e. never)
commented 2016-12-02 23:06:10 -0500
To this day I am disgusted that the federal government did not get the military in Caledonia when the occupation started. Dont even know if it is still going on today. It is a shame that the residents were threatened and had to show the natives, which really were terrorists, their ID papers to go home. I know I am off topic but that’s what the military reminds me of.
commented 2016-12-02 22:22:37 -0500
The Far Left will ALWAYS project their own behaviour on conservatives (centrists).
commented 2016-12-02 21:45:04 -0500
Good one SHEILA
If and when they start the work , I imagine there will groups of pipeliners working toward each other
Does any body know the start date ,
Well what a stupid question lloyd , — they have to go through the courts first , that’s just for starters
commented 2016-12-02 21:24:51 -0500
I’m gratified he he is adamant to uphold the rule of law, but military have NO constitutional business enforcing domestic law when we are not at war – very dangerous precedent and an insight into this governments authoritarian statist reflexes – maybe Justin Castro picked up some bad habits hanging with Latin American tyrants.
commented 2016-12-02 20:39:41 -0500
HEY EVERYONE government employees signing up to make garnishee donations to the United Way can win *****A PAIR OF BOXING GLOVES SIGNED BY JUSTIN TRUDEAU*****
OMG , OH JOY, OH BLISS.
What a prize, signed by a celebrity. Lets elect more rock stars.
commented 2016-12-02 19:43:55 -0500
Like father like son, eh?
I can see water cannon and rubber bullets used against some paid eco-freaks, just to test the waters. If there is no great rebuke by the population, then it’s open season on demonstrators against the Liberal dictatorship.
After the hippies, it will be open season on the taxpayer protesting unilateral election changes, or open borders, or economic downturn, or some such.
Remember: JT admires China’s dictatorship and, of course, Uncle Fidel.
commented 2016-12-02 19:20:14 -0500
I am willing to sell the Dunvegan Bridge to anyone who believes cabinet eunuch, Carr, will follow through. I’ll even throw in the bridges in Peace River (town) to those who think Baby Doc’s squeeze, MacKenna, won’t create obstacles. Big prize is all bridges including Taylor, DMI, and Ft Vermilion to those who think Baby Doc is serious and not acting out a joke written by Butts.
commented 2016-12-02 18:45:41 -0500
Unless we’re planning Trudeau another term, (God help us) Carr won’t even be around should protesting get of hand.
My prediction: we won’t even have a shovel in the ground in two years. First there are the court cases with Vancouver and Indigenous peoples. Court time alone will take more than two years.
As it is, we’re right where we were just over a year ago. We had the green light but boy wonder decides to take a year to study it some more. (his way) Only to come to the conclusion that Trans Mountain expansion is a no brainer. And Nutley uses phrases like ‘social license’. What the H is that?
We need a new PM and FAST.