April 14, 2015

Liberal Party is "right wing" claims union

Brian LilleyArchive

One of Canada's biggest unions is a making a call for progressive voters to reject Justin Trudeau's Liberals for being too conservative.

Paul Moist, the national president of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, has written a letter to left-wing activist group Leadnow criticizing their "Vote Together" campaign.

That campaign is designed to get left wing voters backing the NDP, Liberal or Green candidate, in order to defeat the Conservatives in potential swing ridings across Canada.

Huffington Post reports that in an April 10 letter Moist sent to Leadnow, the union boss called for progressive voters to ignore Trudeau in favour of real progressives:

"Neither the Liberal Party of Canada nor the Green Party are progressive,” the president of the union representing some 628,000 Canadian public workers said in his letter.

“Both parties have very right-wing economic policies, do not stand for working families or public services. Only the NDP has a progressive platform,” he stated.

CUPE, unlike its private sector counterpart UNIFOR, is still closely affiliated with the NDP.

Ontario's Liberal Party has successfully courted union votes to win the last four elections in that province, a move the federal Libetals hope to emulate.

Recent polls show Trudeau's Liberals may need the help, Ipsos has the party only leading in Atlantic Canada and trailing the Conservatives and NDP everywhere else.

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commented 2015-04-17 08:26:39 -0400
Sign me up! But I have to ask, I looked for this Web page about how we can ban public sector unions legally but could not locate it. Can you be more precise in its location? I’ve saying this for a very long time. This is a criminal organization disguised as a labour movement. They maliciously attack those that stand against them to get the party they want in power, then force us to pay for them! This must stop!!!!!!
commented 2015-04-15 08:48:21 -0400
Most union members are at best “crisis activists” that is to say they only come to a meeting if there is a problem. So the union tends to get commandeered by leftists who see it as potential career path. The first thing they generally do is reset the quorum threshold to just accommodate their numbers.

The notion that union leaders broker large blocks of voters is hogwash. We would have had an NDP majority a long time ago if that were true.

Guy Fraser, I have met union leaders who were as left extremist as left extremist can get. At one meeting back in the 1970’s I nearly had an altercation with Hardial Bains’ bodyguard.
commented 2015-04-14 21:27:56 -0400
What has Paul Moist been smoking or eating? Liberals and Greens, right wing? I suppose Fascism and Stalinism are almost left wing enough for him. >.<
commented 2015-04-14 21:26:06 -0400
You guys and girls said it better then me. Just remember to vote Harper again.
Now I am off to visit the rest of the un-news sites to see what they are missing for stories and in some occasions closed comments or no comments. It’s like they don’t want to talk about it or don’t like what they see. Have you noticed?
I like to think The Rebel is making them crack. Hahahah.
commented 2015-04-14 20:58:10 -0400
Well this will be very interesting. Unifor members tend to vote their own way regardless of what their leaders tell them to do. They’re culture is quite different than that of the public sector unions and there are plenty of conservative voters within their ranks. CUPE members are more likely to follow their leaders because CUPE consistently delivers good contracts (yes, I know a lot of this is due to interest arbitration and a lack of balls on the part of management but they’ve delivered one sweet deal after another so the members are more prone to see their union’s leaders as useful and smart). If the public sector unions throw their support to the NDP, the Liberals are in big trouble. Other unions may follow. There’s no longstanding loyalty on the part of any union to the federal Liberals or any Liberals for that matter. At the provincial level unions back the Liberals for opportunistic reasons.

I’m not surprised that Paul Moist doesn’t find Justin to his liking. Justin just doesn’t speak the language of the socialist/progressive community. He tries but it doesn’t come across as genuine. He sounds like a faux progressive and he lacks that “stick it to the man” edge that one must have if one wants to resonate with that group. Justin’s silver spoon life story is also off-putting to them. Others will follow CUPE to the NDP which is the party that is a more natural fit for most unions anyway.
commented 2015-04-14 18:47:08 -0400
Eliminate the Rand Formula and Union Leaders would have to go back to taking care of the needs of their members and stop their political activity or risk seeing an exodus from the union ranks. Fortunately many union members don’t buy into the political BS pushed by their leaders.
commented 2015-04-14 17:40:07 -0400
After I had my “red pill” experience I once attended a shop stewards workshop put on by CUPE in 2005. I was the only heterosexual male in the room…..It was even scarier than the Women’s Day rally at Mount Saint Vincent in 1984 ….I felt like a Jewish stage hand attending the Nuremberg Rally.

One of the speakers repeated that quote by Martin Niemoller about first they came for the communists……and I had an epiphany….the reason why nobody spoke out was not because they were intimidated by the Gestapo….the reason why they didn’t speak out was because they were relieved that the Gestapo were finally doing something about the leftist looney tunes who were ruining their country.
commented 2015-04-14 17:33:22 -0400
If the Liberals go any further to their Left they may just fall of the edge of their Flat Earth.
commented 2015-04-14 15:39:41 -0400
I only have this…get rid of unions…the 1940’s and 50’s are long gone. They and their fringe ideas are dangerous to economic well being and stability.
commented 2015-04-14 14:20:30 -0400
leadnow..thats the rag organization that had 35000 canadians lie about robo calling.. and it wasnt hard to find such upstanding citizens
commented 2015-04-14 14:16:33 -0400
“Unions need to stay out if elections, period.”

Yes, and so do the media.
commented 2015-04-14 14:02:33 -0400
ironically funny…and tragic at the same time…as the gerald butts led liberals are now far to the left of the ndp…
commented 2015-04-14 13:54:01 -0400
Hopefully this divide between trade unions will carry forward to the election, and split the left at the polls. I would love to hear how MSM would rationalize another conservative majority.
commented 2015-04-14 12:58:06 -0400
Justin Trudeau is too conservative!? Yeah, that’s a good one!
Stephen Harpers Conservatives are barely conservative!
CUPE, what a bunch a’ Pinkos!
- "Pinko is a slang term coined in 1925 in the United States to describe a person regarded as being sympathetic to communism, though not necessarily a Communist Party member. It has since come to be used, derogatorily, to describe anyone perceived to have leftist or socialist sympathies.
The term has its origins in the notion that pink is a lighter shade of red, a color associated with communism. Thus pink could describe a “lighter form of communism”, purportedly promoted by supporters of socialism who were not themselves actual or “card carrying” communists. The term pinko has a pejorative sense, whereas ‘pink’ in this definition can be used in a purely descriptive sense, such as in the term pink tide." wikipedia

I’d sure like to see a list of all the actual card-carrying members of Communist International in the NDP and CUPE, past and present!
commented 2015-04-14 12:37:11 -0400
Unions need to stay out if elections, period.
commented 2015-04-14 12:35:23 -0400
STU GATZO thanks for noting the confusion regarding, “What is left wing what is right wing?”
and “where it gets funny. Fascism is considered right wing even though you have so little control over your life and while anarchism wants no government thus total self-reliance and it’s considered ultra left”.
In other posts, I have likewise pointed out that the left/right or communism/fascism dichotomy on the political spectrum is a false dichotomy as explained in a 1-minute segment (15:44 to about 16:56 minutes) from this video, “Agenda – Grinding America Down”, a documentary on the socialist subversion of America:
On the far left of the political scale you have 100% government and on the far right 0% government, that is, anarchy, which is no government. Thus, on the far left you have socialism, communism and Nazism/fascism, all totalitarian forms of government. That is, fascism and socialism are two peas in a pod, birds of a feather. Both are totalitarian states that reduce the people’s freedom to nil. The political spectrum as typically understood or promoted is a misconstruction.
commented 2015-04-14 11:23:54 -0400
What is left wing what is right wing? The more government you want the more left wing you are. In other words, the less control you want over your own life the more left wing you are. That’s why we have the left wing NDPers who never learn from history and the right wing libertarians who learned from history and used to be left wing.
Here’s where it gets funny. Fascism is considered right wing even though you have so little control over your life and while anarchism wants no government thus total self-reliance and it’s considered ultra left.
As for unions, they are corporations that live off the labour of others. Since they are private so they do not need to post annual audits. Here’s the rub: they get millions in federal grants – like native tribes do. So, like native tribes they should be open to financial scrutiny or we refuse the grants.
As for the Liberals – they’re prostitutes so that does make them right of center. They are the party of Main Street who are funded by Bay Street. Did I mention they are a party of liars and thieves? Have they paid back any Ad Scam money yet?
commented 2015-04-14 11:13:34 -0400
I hope union members send their fat cat money grabbing leaders a strong message by not voting for either party they are “told” to.
commented 2015-04-14 11:03:25 -0400
To suggest ANY modern political party is right wing is ridiculous. All parties are now left wing, including conservative parties. Salesman are excellent with word games though…could it be a play to attract some conservative voters to the vote Liberal?

It is a strange thing to play mind games through the media…suggestive selling at it’s best…or worst…
commented 2015-04-14 10:53:50 -0400
I’ve belonged to a union (private sector) for many years and have never endorsed the NDP or liberals… many of my fellow workers are true conservatives as well… just because our leadership wants to endorse the left does NOT influence our votes at the ballot box… they do, however, take (steal) some of our union dues and give them to the NDP and I haven’t been able to stop that. People who belong to unions should decide for themselves who they want to vote for, not just vote left because they are in a union. Unless you are in the public sector, the NDP and libs don’t benefit our union at all. Wake up union members and vote for RESPONSIBLE government ~ fiscally responsible conservatives.
commented 2015-04-14 10:35:28 -0400
Unions used to protect workers from lousy management. Now unions are political party backers. More gubbamint fraud allowed to run this country. How about a financial audit CUPE? Like every other organization in Canada with your size in revenue?
The good news is that these stupid CUPE fks are splitting the lefty vote.
commented 2015-04-14 10:07:13 -0400
There you have it. Absolute proof that union leaders do NOT represent their members politically and have no business stealing their union dues to support one political party over another. We’ve known it all along and yes, I was a cranky union member for a lot of years before I retired and now the bandits can’t steal any more of my hard earned money. Thank goodness for that.
commented 2015-04-14 09:12:17 -0400
To say Wynn is anything close to right wing is a fallacy. She just isn’t union friendly quite enough for the unions. She is, by all accounts, the most left wing Premiere in the Province’s history, including Bob Rae.
commented 2015-04-14 09:07:10 -0400
Saying that Justin Trudeau’s Liberals are not “progressive” enough only reveals how much CUPE is dominated by hard left socialists.
commented 2015-04-14 08:54:42 -0400
President Roosevelt was far from being centrist or right wing in his politics. But he warned against the power that public sector unions would pose to democracy. Oh how right he was.
commented 2015-04-14 08:47:04 -0400
This is a good thing. It the left spits the vote all the better for the Conservatives come election time, because anyone who would move to the NDP from the Liberals because of this union’s comments, they certainly would not have voted Conservative any time soon. Better to split the left vote evenly among the two parties.
commented 2015-04-14 08:46:28 -0400
Unifor backs Trudeau, CUPE backs Mulcair. Good. Split the left. Usher in another Conservative majority. So long as Trudeau finishes third and then resigns.
commented 2015-04-14 08:39:52 -0400
These unions are such crap. If I were a member, I know I’d be cranky knowing my dues weren’t necessarily being put to good use…….like if there are any conservative union members in this country, your money is going to Trudope or hissy-fit Mulcair. You have no say.