“Do we want to be Italy or Australia?” LIBERAL politician opposes Trudeau’s electoral reforms, launches KeepVotingSimple.ca

Jay stop feeding us lies and old news. The pound has been in a bear market for years. The markets have fully recovered. And prosperity in Europe? Like Greece and Spain? ha ha

Kenneth Sorenson…..I agree 100% but….this is Canada, land of the wimps. NEVER will you see them march against TruDOPE, they will sit on the sidelines, as they always do, and let him do exactly what he wants and TruDOPE KNOWs this, he knows he will have little opposition. You will never get the Canadian people to stand together on ANYTHING.

Jay Kelly…..‘showed a loss for home owners, investors and ’those who use the British pound’??? What a dumb comment. Why would home owners, investors and those who use the British pound which would be everyone in Britain be any more important than anyone else.? They’re NOT!! The reason for Brexit was British people being sick of European elitists deciding the course of their country with NO say from the British themselves plus the growing concern about hoards of muslims invading their country….a country already invaded by people from all over Europe bleeding their resources dry. No one gives a rat’s ass about home owners, investors or people who use the pound.

TruDOPE has NO intention of having a referendum on this…..he knows he will LOSE and that would upset our mental midget if someone disagrees with him. IF Canadians allow the liberals to get away with this….they deserve all they get. As a senior…..I have made up my mind to NEVER vote again in this country, am sick of voting and having my vote cancelled out by unions and big business. NO democracy in our voting system, no matter what it looks like. We know the reason for this change is for the liberals to be always in power so you can be sure they will ram it through without anyone’s agreement. This party is the closest to communism I have ever seen.

It seems the Brexit referendum in Britain threw cold water on the idea that a popular vote in a referendum is the best way to proceed. The result there showed a loss for home owners, investors, and those who use the British pound.

Elsewhere in Europe came the realization that unity spells prosperity.

All stops need to be pulled out to make sure Trudeau doesn’t get his own way. He’s not governing for the people, he’s governing for himself and his emotional and irrational hate for all things conservative. It’s his way or no way, so lets show him and his pals the highway! Perhaps its time to have a million person march on Parliament against this bunch! Shame on all of them!

Bill Elder said, and it is definitely worth repeating,

“If there is no referendum on this then it has to be stopped with a federal court injunction as an unmandated, unapproved constitutional change – this is the big one people – this is the globalist left elite attempting to solidify their perpetual ruling class junta by undermining majority will – take to the streets on this one, it may the last time they ever ask for your opinion.”

I agree, and have stated before, that this electoral change can be a serious, extremely serious, game changer forcing out the parties that can get into power to the Liberals only.

You can be absolutely certain beyond any shadow of a doubt whatsoever that the Liberals WILL force upon us the type of electoral system that will benefit them the most. That is about as absolute as gravity itself.

The very fact that they are full against a referendum is a blatant indication that the Liberals are trying desperately to ram through a system that will help to ensure that they remain in power forever. Forever!

Even the Liberal trolls that post on this website regularly should be taking pause at that!!

Acuuna said, " … the only reason they change things is to fuck you."

And they are not even buying us dinner first! No kiss either! Damn Liberals!

Should EL BOW and the Liebranos force through changes to the electoral system without the approval of the Canadian Public (referendum) two things should happen immediately afterwards. Western Canada should separate lest they become even more peasants in a Liebrano dictatorship and Trudope should be arrested! The former is likely more probable than the latter!

Liberals are idiots because they think the more complex the better. There is nothing wrong with what we have now. There could be less ridings for example each province and territory only get to elect the same number of representatives each.

Everyone overlooks the fact that FPTP is proportional. The candidate with the largest proportion of votes wins the riding. Granted the overall proportion for a given party gets distorted across the entire nation. For instance the Conservatives get a much larger proportion out west without gaining an equal proportion of seats. My concern with Proportional representation is; WHO sits to represent the proportions ? Surely they will be appointees as no one voted for them directly. This sounds like the Senate. Ranked ballots favor the Liberals. (I would rather have Liberals than Conservative, I would rather have liberals than NDP) It is up to the various parties to have platforms that will appeal to the largest proportion of voters. Then we dop not need to play games with how we vote.

Australia’s system is the best choice for Canada. It’s the system we should have adopted in 1867.

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/House_of_Representatives/Powers_practice_and_procedure/00_-Infosheets/Infosheet_20_-_The_Australian_system_ofgovernment They have a much more effective and balanced system with proper separation of powers. In Canada we simply elect a dictator for 4-5 years. Now we have one intent on changing the voting system in such a way that we will get a permanent Liberal majority.

The key word/concept here is “plurality” – globalists and sundry other statist left ideologies see a plurality of choice/parties and effective parliamentary opposition as anathema to the single party state they desire – these are not liberals folks, these are globalists (transnational commissars) – they will deliver our nation to the global governing clique as a perpetual single party vassal state.

Any talk of “reform” of a democratic franchise which has been effective at representing the will of the majority, is just wannabe despots rigging a system in their favor.

If there is no referendum on this then it has to be stopped with a federal court injunction as an unmandated, unapproved constitutional change – this is the big one people – this is the globalist left elite attempting to solidify their perpetual ruling class junta by undermining majority will – take to the streets on this one, it may the last time they ever ask for your opinion.

The fact they want to shove this down your throat without democratic consensus betrays the nature of what they are doing.

I’ll take Australia (or the US, Canada, UK) over the destructive proportional systems of Denmark, Israel, ect…

Referendum, ha ha ha amigo, we are Liberals, we don’t hold no stinking referendums. You can bet that the policy wonks in the Liberal government have analyzed this issue and come up with a scheme that would make it mathematically impossible for conservatives to ever gain power again. It’s all in the numbers and statistical data. And as far as a referendum , the Liberal Socialists are just that. Statists , socialists , Marxists who have no interest in democracy, ONLY POWER.
If they procede , there would be only two options available to those of us that are not liberals. Total capitulation to the left, or breaking up the country to repel daddy Trudeau’s Constitution and his son’s attempt to become a forever dictator.

Well, that’s just fine and dandy, but unfortunately we have a country that was full of naive and gullible people who once thought highly of Gerald Butts’ initiatives as espoused by our so-called prime minister. To now say “after learning more” doesn’t really help much.