July 05, 2019

PROOF: Liberals KNEW carbon tax would strip BILLIONS from economy

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

The Liberals have known for at least three years that their carbon tax plan could strip more than $24 billion off the Canadian GDP every single year, and I have the internal documents to prove it.

We all know that making life more expensive is not helpful to any economy. And now, thanks to an Access to Information request, we can confirm that the Liberals had information back in 2016 that their carbon tax plan would be a disaster.

At the time, the Liberal government was warned that the carbon tax would strip between 7 to 24 billion in Canadian GDP out of the economy in 2030.

This information was presented to several politicians, including the previous Albertan Environment Minister Shannon Phillips, the federal Environment Minister Catherine McKenna and to the Ministry of Finance.

Let's be clear: this is a pro-carbon tax document written by a pro-carbon tax panel of experts that is being used to justify the Liberals' so-called “price on pollution.”

While the American economy booms the Canadian government was knowingly scheming to strip up to $24 billion in GDP out of its own economy every single year, knee-capping Canada to impress the United Nations.

And no doubt, most of that GDP loss would be from fossil fuel county.

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commented 2019-07-08 12:18:48 -0400
The plural of anecdote is not data, Liza. No, you don’t refute aggregate statistics with anecdotes. They do ask those seniors and underemployed Canadians. They also ask a lot of other Canadians to generate a broad cross-section of what the economy is doing. Nobody disputes it’s uneven.

They do adjust the data. The biggest one is the “seasonal adjustment”. In raw terms, Canada’s job base grew by 155,000 in June, mostly because of the annual surge in summer jobs. To allow for month to month comparisons, they actually subtract out the seasonal cycles. If they expected 157,000 students to be hired in June, but only 155,000 were, the end result is -2000.

For the sake of discussion, the post-adjustment May number was +30,000, but the pre-adjustment May number was just under 400,000 net-hirings.

Data can be found in Statscan table 14-10-0287-01
commented 2019-07-07 00:16:03 -0400
Taking it out of the country before that happens is the only way I can think of Jill. That leaves most of us vulnerable.
commented 2019-07-07 00:15:06 -0400
The numbers are carefully manipulated to look like something they are not. Those numbers don’t means shit. Ask the Canadians out of work or working 2 stupid jobs instead of one good one, or the seniors who have to go back into the work force to make ends meet. We had a surplus when dufus got in in 2015. Were in far better shape then, than we are now.
Canadians have about as much faith in stats can as elections Canada, not very much. No one believes that they are non partisan anymore.

Now you can spin this and projectile vomit it back in some made up way and I know you will. You Andrew are a perfect example of how the government and these supposed ‘non-partisan’ bureaucrats spin and rewrite the truth to suit them. People are onto this shit.
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“June is a pause in the greatest economic boom in a generation.”
Listen to yourself Stephenson, you are a complete nut.
commented 2019-07-06 19:57:04 -0400
JILL WARD commented 33 mins ago
Andrew Stephenson,
PLease stop with the never ending lies.
You want to believe them, fine but take them to your lefty sites of which there are far more than the factual sites for those of us on the right who seem to be the ONLY ones left in this post national sewer who have FUNCTIONING BRAINS AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON!
YOu, are pathetic and sadly a typical ‘canadian’!
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My numbers are correct. Canada has had one of its best runs of job creation on record, and the unemployment is now lower than it has been in nearly half a century.

Functioning brains do indeed know what’s going on. June is a pause in the greatest economic boom in a generation. We’ve finally pulled out of the doldrums that lingered for nearly a decade after the 2008 recession.I don’t think Trudeau has helped it much, but he’s certainly not destroying it either
commented 2019-07-06 19:44:09 -0400
Liza Rosie,
since he made it law a couple of years ago, I have been warning and doing everything in my power to encourage Canadians to find somewhere to hide their money.
I am going to find out how much control the feds have over the credit unions.
I don’t know if the laws for them are the same as the banks. In any event we all had better start hiding our money- offshore, in the U.S. and so on because it really isn’t looking good as we close in on the election.
I have been on the verge of a breakdown since this diabolical nazi was voted in and I have been ‘screaming’ online daily trying to get through to canadians however as proved here in Ontario as Ford does what he can to pay down the massive debt created by the provincial liberal party over 8 years, people have taken to the streets with signs mimicking a ‘beheading’ of Ford for taking away some of their entitlements!
Meanwhile with all the corruption, lies, deceit, attacks against canada and we canadians, destruction of both our economic engines (with the help of the ontario liberals and Alberta ndp) , chasing away all foreign and domestic investment and making canada a post national border-less, lawless third world sewer full of parasites, terrorists, drug cartels, gangs and so on , and still all canadians are worried about is their demanded entitlements and shopping!
I am sick at heart at what this monster has done to OUR COUNTRY- NOT HIS, OURS (EVEN HIS FATHER WAS A TRAITOR AND REFUSED TO FIGHT FOR CANADA DURING WWII WHILE PUBLICLY SUPPORTING THE NAZIS!!).
he IS NOT GOING TO STOP until we are completely bankrupt ,full of the entire third and islamic world, under sharia and in the gutters, no homes, no health care, money, food or anything else.
and STILL NO CANADIANS, PARLIAMENTARY OVERSEERS, MILITARY, COURTS, JUDGES OR LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVE DONE OR SAID A THING TO STOP HIM!
Everything he says, does, believes and so on COSTS US MONEY while HIS IS HIDDEN OFFSHORE FROM THE TAX MAN AND WE PROVIDE THE BILLIONAIRES LIFE FOR HE AND HIS FAMILY!!
I would suggest AGAIN ( did 3 years ago but was ignored), what is left of we canadians all SHUT OFF THE TAPS (PAY NO TAXES, DO NOT SHOP, WORK ETC. – just for a few days to start), shut down the roads, highways, borders, businesses and then just maybe we will get action!
no money, no power, no free life for the invaders and trudeau has no paycheck!
tHE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS FOR EVERYONE TO VOTE IN MAXIME BERNIER BECAUSE HE IS THE ONLY CANADIAN IN THE RUNNING AND THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL SERVE CANADA AND WE CANADIANS!
otherwise i suggest you all get in touch with President Trump after october and BEG HIM TO SEND HIS TROOPS HERE TO TAKE OUT TRUDEAU AND HIS JIHADIS!!
so you know, the U.S. had their troops lined along the border during Pierre Elliott trudeaus reign during the FLQ crisis and they warned trudeau that if he didn’t take care of the problem, THEY WOULD!
The U.S. is our ally, neighbour and cousins, uncles, aunts and so on and they are NOT GOING TO ALLOW CANADA TO BECOME A TERRORIST HAVEN/CALIPHATE so, if this clown continues on, WAR IS IMMINENT!
btw prepare for the bombs to fly any day now as 3 terrorists here in Ontario have been caught with bombs, bomb making equipment , detonators and plans for where to set them off. All these terrorists were being watched by the FBI- NOT OUR KEYSTONE COPS , and all are walking free!!MEANWHILE in the U.S. TWO CANADIANS AND ONE AMERICAN ARE IN JAIL ON TWO DIFFERENT TERRORIST RELATED PLANS TO BOMB AIRPORTS HERE IN CANADA AND THE U.S- AND OTHER AREAS AS WELL. IF THEY HAD BEEN UP HERE, THEY WOULD BE FREE AS WELL.
tHE ONES HERE WHO ARE NOW FREE ALONG WITH OTHER ISLAMIC TERRORIST ACTS HERE IN CANADA OVER THE PAST 4 YEARS ARE NOT GOING TO STOP BECAUSE THERE ARE NO LAWS HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE SO IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME NOW!
ISLAM CONTROLS CANADA VIA TRUDEAU AND HIS ISLAMIC CABINET MEMBERS AND THE RADICAL ISLAMIC CONTROLLED U.N. WHICH NOW CONTROLS OUR BORDERS, IMMIGRATION LAWS, MONEY, SOVEREIGNTY AND RESOURCES!
btW Apparently the elites around the globe are now telling canada we have to start SHUTTING DOWN OUR NATURAL GAS AS WELL!
WHAT THEY DEMAND , TRUDEAU DELIVERS!!!
btw, we live in a COLD CLIMATE- NO OIL, NO NATURAL GAS AND HERE IN ONTARIO WHEN THE LIBERALS COME BACK, NO HYDRO!!!
commented 2019-07-06 19:20:21 -0400
Andrew Stephenson,
PLease stop with the never ending lies.
You want to believe them, fine but take them to your lefty sites of which there are far more than the factual sites for those of us on the right who seem to be the ONLY ones left in this post national sewer who have FUNCTIONING BRAINS AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON!
YOu, are pathetic and sadly a typical ‘canadian’!
commented 2019-07-06 19:11:41 -0400
Barbie is a friggin Airhead . . . . Gorebull Warming is a SCAM . . . and there is NO Science!
Alarmists have to “Believe” . . . the Green Religion !

100s of Billions of Private Investment capital left the country with the flushing of 4 pipelines. And feckless Justin is the Spendingest PM in Canadian History.
This is not going to end well for Canada . . . and it has nothing to do with Weather or Klimate . . . lol
commented 2019-07-06 15:06:37 -0400
LIZA ROSIE commented 23 hours ago
Statistics Canada: Canadian economy loses 2,200 jobs in June
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/statistics-canada-canadian-economy-loses-2200-jobs-in-june/ "

After creating 150,000 jobs in the couple months prior, a minor pullback could be expected.

I suspect all that happened is that student hiring that normally happens in June happened in May instead, so it’s an artifact of the seasonal adjustment algorithm. Everything else points to the strongest economy in 15 years.
commented 2019-07-05 22:51:09 -0400
Jill I have been trying to figure out how we are supposed to protect ourselves from that since I first read it. They will take what they decide to take of that we can be sure.
commented 2019-07-05 22:04:50 -0400
Ah what’s a few billion dollars here and there. justin better pray he doesn’t win
commented 2019-07-05 20:20:12 -0400
Liza Rosie,
regarding our banks and trudeaus agenda, have a read:
https://debatepost.com/2016/08/23/warning-trudeau-has-allowed-banks-to-seize-your-money-if-economy-fails/

TRUDEAUS FULL PLAN IS TO COMPLETELY DESTROY THE BANKS JUST AS HIS PLAN TO DESTROY OUR OIL AND NOW NATURAL GAS RESOURCES ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED.
HE WANTS CANADA TO BE A THIRD WORLD SEWER AND AFTER OCTOBER WHEN DUMB F**< CANUKS VOTE HIM IN AGAIN- ALONG WITH ALL THE ILLEGALS/INVADERS, WE ARE DONE!
As I stated a couple of years ago, CANADIANS HAD BETTER GET ALL THEIR MONEY OUT OF THE BANKS NOW AND SHUT OFF THE TAPS.COUNTRY, BUSINESSES BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
LOL, WHAT A FOOL AM I. cANUKS ARE LOSERS AND COWARDS AND THERE is no way they are going to be bothered putting away the shopping carts or stopping the never ending party and getting up off the couch to SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, MUCH LESS THOSE OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN!’
I’m ‘canadian; and over the past 4 years I have been FORCED TO ACCEPT , CANADIANS DESERVE TO BE WIPED OUT AND THAT IS EXACTLY TRUDEAUPLAN- WHICH WILL RAMP UP AFTER OCTOBER!
IT’S ALL OVER- JUST AS I WARNED BACK IN 2015 IT WOULD BE BY NOW AND YOU CAN ALL THANK YOURSELVES FOR BEING COWARDS AND TRAITORS!
commented 2019-07-05 20:10:18 -0400
Ron Christensen,
you are 100% CORRECT!!!!
sadly , canuks don’t have the balls to even vote them out and all the military, courts, judges, media, law enforcement etc are completely controlled and dictated by trudeau- and our money via trudeau.
we are DONE AND SO IS THE FORMER CANADA!
next he’ll be building CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR WHAT IS LEFT OF WE CANADIANS!!
think I’m kidding?? THINK AGAIN!
commented 2019-07-05 20:00:16 -0400
Great work Sheila!!
commented 2019-07-05 19:24:11 -0400
gee, do ya think??
commented 2019-07-05 17:15:44 -0400
The globalists plan on crashing the banking system once they’ve totally destroyed capitalism. 2008 was a trial run. Trudeau is bankrupting Canada as fast as he can so that they can move forward with their NWO. There is a reason that they want a paperless society, because every transaction is recorded. Also, our daily limit on bank machines is all we’ll get as long as the system is running. Once they shut down the financial system, it will be utter chaos. Obama was the globalist plant in the US, and when Trump was elected, instead of Killary, it threw a monkey wrench into their plans.Trudeau has been working with Obama and his shadow government to destroy Canada.
commented 2019-07-05 16:05:26 -0400
Of course they knew the economy would be harmed by a carbon tax. Does anyone think Trudeau et al is in power to improve this country? Really? It’s their goal to DESTROY our economy and Canada’s prosperity – they are globalists. They don’t give a shit about Canada. They care about globalism and sovereign countries don’t belong in that model. Kiss everything we have going for us good-bye if this government wins the election in October. It will all be going bye-bye to controlling interests, into their coffers, and they are not Canadian,
commented 2019-07-05 15:13:49 -0400
I will be more than happy to volunteer my time and ropes !
commented 2019-07-05 15:12:21 -0400
Every single Liberal and liberal supporter should be hung for treason !
commented 2019-07-05 14:33:22 -0400
Also, 24 billion is about $4/tonne, meaning most of the tax dollars are being returned.
commented 2019-07-05 13:04:51 -0400
Yes blame the previous government. Solution’s or idea,s you never post.
commented 2019-07-05 12:35:07 -0400
LIZA ROSIE commented 1 hour ago
Our growth is non existent. Banks are talking about lowering borrowing rates again. Nothing makes any sense under Trudeau.”

“Banks” don’t talk about such things. They relay the bond market.

In terms of central banks and the official overnight rate, It’s actually the Americans who are talking about cutting rates,and Trump that is one of the loudest in demanding it. Even if they did, it’s unclear we would follow, instead letting Forex take up the slack (already happening – the dollars’ rising).

“The retarded economy professor spreading fairy tales as usual”

Dirk, explain to me exactly what “fairy tale” you refer to. Please provide your counter-argument.

DUKE OF PADUCAH commented 1 hour ago
Must be a non-event to have your job be part of a “rounding error”. How many “rounding errors” did Alberta experience?”

Alberta’s economic mistakes are rather more than a rounding error, in fact rather more than the supposed damage from the carbon tax. In fact, the damage done to Alberta in 2014, before Trudeau or Notley were elected or there was even a hint of a carbon tax, is greater than that 24b number.
commented 2019-07-05 12:23:44 -0400
Billy, I read in the Alberta Repeort years ago, “Canadians like their Prime Ministers stupid”. The evidence is hard to refute. Unless you are lefty who never learns from your mistakes- the First Pillar of Leftiedom.
commented 2019-07-05 12:12:27 -0400
Record bankruptcies this month. The job numbers dont add up is right. Strip all economic engines and increase taxes to an unmanageable level.
Create more red tape and regulations to put Canada into a recession.
Billions of our hard earned tax dollars given to a long list other countries.

This is an attempt to devalue all of Canada and it,s people…Treasonous government.
Give tax dollars away to non citizen welfare leaches also known illegal border jumpers and fakugees.

To house and care for one of them costs more a month than any senior ,veteran disabled Canadian citizen will ever receive a month after a life time of work.
Of course you cannot apply for the $50.000 dollar settlement grants either, we are expected to pay for this treachery. Millions for these scum but nothing for our homeless. Oh ya to help local communities put in an injection site. Wreck the local park for residents and drive what little business is left out of business. Except for those cleaning up the needles and those selling their poison.
commented 2019-07-05 11:49:47 -0400
As if Alberta is going to willingly send another red cent under these political conditions. I wouldn’t revile Ottawa nearly so much if they were at least honest about their rape and pillaging, but to be robbed on the basis of this man made climate change lie with an additional tax on top of it, is too much. This is nothing but a revenue stream for the agenda they are creating industries around (like a house of cards) and been promised favours and positions for implementing. I reckon even have family and friends personally invested in. I would love to see their investment portfolio’s. These people are scum.
Their goal is literally to bury this country.
commented 2019-07-05 11:48:14 -0400
KEITH BARNES commented 22 mins ago
“…Trudeau and his gang are all set to destroy the white race, or at least the white working class. To do so they need to control the movements of the people, how long will it be before Gasoline powered vehicles are declared illegal, so as to halt global warming?…”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/cars-and-trucks-sold-in-b-c-by-2040-will-be-zero-emission-government-1.4185356

The lefty swine and their fellow conspirators have already started implementing our destruction, Keith, and look at how many Canadian lemmings are gleefully aiding and abetting their own destruction – and given that fact, one wonders if Canada is even worth preserving…
commented 2019-07-05 11:45:57 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 1 hour ago
20 billion dollars is essentially a rounding error over a decade. At typical growth rates of 6-8% a year
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The retarded economy professor spreading fairy tales as usual
commented 2019-07-05 11:37:59 -0400
Jihadi-Justin-Groper’s Liberals knew this carbon tax BS would destroy our country because that was/is the plan of these treasonous, criminal, globalist swine! To turn Canada into rubble from within so they can then build their New World Order on that rubble!

Disney studios used a fame thrower to drive those lemmings off that cliff, to their drowning deaths, in Alberta. What is it exactly that Jihadi-Justin-Groper’s Liberals are driving Canadian lemmings over that cliff with?

https://gizmodo.com/lemmings-dont-commit-mass-suicide-disney-pushed-them-o-1614038696
commented 2019-07-05 11:29:10 -0400
Our growth is non existent. Banks are talking about lowering borrowing rates again. Nothing makes any sense under Trudeau.