January 15, 2019

Liberals’ new impaired driving laws create “empty beer bottle police”

David MenziesMission Specialist

Seldom have I come across a more outrageous example of police overreach than what occurred at a Mississauga, Ontario Beer Store earlier this month.

As reported in the Toronto Sun, 70-year-old Art Lightowler says he was pulled over by a police officer for the first time in about half a century worth of driving, not because he was speeding or guilty of distracted driving. So what sort of traffic infraction had he allegedly committed?

Would you believe: impaired driving, kind of.

Apparently, the police officer had been staking-out the local Beer Store and observed Art returning an “excessive amount” of empties.

Up until last month, police had to have a reasonable suspicion to support a request for a roadside breath sample, but now with changes to the Criminal Code passed by the federal Liberals, police across Canada can randomly stop and administer roadside alcohol breath tests on any driver even without a reason to suspect that person has been drinking.

And apparently that includes someone “flaunting” their alleged liquor consumption by returning an “inordinate number of empties” for refund to a Beer Store.

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commented 2019-01-16 22:58:38 -0500
Yes Rick Plesnik… That’s what it is… Trudeau is all in a liberalist globalist freak out state of mentality along with his goofball globalist wingnuts… They have nothing left in the " feed the sheeple bullshit" tank. Trudeau and his crew are coasting on fumes.
commented 2019-01-16 20:27:55 -0500
Hmm… Since this seems to be a case of “proving impairment after the fact”, has anybody considered the implications for dope-smokers?… I mean, can the cops also then enter your house, and finding a few roach ends in the ashtray, assume that you were “high” driving home a few hours earlier? Ooopsie!… Seems The Boy Blunder and his crew didn’t really think this one through, especially how this might affect his favourite voters…
commented 2019-01-16 18:09:22 -0500
Soon, like getting transfer papers from home to the gun range for your handgun target practice, to avoid legal repercussions, you will need one to transfer your beer bottles to avoid the same fate. Apparently, because they both warrant a criminal record. IDIOTS.
commented 2019-01-16 16:52:04 -0500
Imposition of a Trudeau police state prior to the Trudeau dictatorship!
commented 2019-01-16 14:54:43 -0500
Well what do you suggest Menzoid?
I have a garage full of empties, booze, pop and other soft drinks. I don’t have a truck at the moment to take them all back in to recycle them…and get a refund, my car is way too small.
They have been accumulating for a few years – there’s a truck full now!
So Menzoid, when I get another truck and return all the returnables, should I call my local RCMP detachment, or the detachment in Williams Lake (WL is where I get supplies once a month,100 miles from home), to inform them that I am leaving home now. I have not been drinking. I am going to the recycler to recycle my returnables and do other chores – one of which is to stop at the Government liquor store and buy some Irish Whiskey to drink…once I get back home again?. Should I report first to one of the two detachments to allow them to assess if I am inebriated or not and whether they have probable cause to administer a breathalyser – oh sorry, they don’t need probable cause anymore – OK, ask if they ‘need me to give them’ a breathalyzer, and then ask them if I can continue doing my once-a-month chores in town, once it is established that I am in fact not inebriated?
I can see how this may also be beneficial to me in the near future when I have to drive the 75 kilometers to the nearest RCMP detachment to visit my guns or get them to take to the range for practice, or to go hunting…if that’s even still allowed?
Or should I just continue as normal and take a chance the RCMP aren’t staking out the returnables place…

What country is this again?
commented 2019-01-16 14:02:13 -0500
Go out after dark, cruise the rich Progressive neighborhoods and randomly lob your empties onto their lawns.
commented 2019-01-16 13:46:10 -0500
Hungry for money? At any cost! even when it infringes our freedom. Sad!!!
commented 2019-01-16 12:31:46 -0500
For a cop to deduce that 70 year old might be impaired by bringing back some empty bottles is in the realm of beyond belief. I suppose this cop gets a 24, takes home, over several days consumes the beer, then takes the empties back, cashes them in and buys more beer. Then there are folks and they are numerous, who stop at the beer store every time they are out and about town and store the empties until they have 5 or 6 cases to take back. There is nothing wrong with doing that.
commented 2019-01-16 12:26:57 -0500
" anti-alcohol vigilantes ". Sounds pretty sharia compliant to me.
commented 2019-01-16 12:25:29 -0500
Dave Sutton, that sounds like Justin’s playbook! His handlers that is.
commented 2019-01-16 12:04:25 -0500
So anti-alcohol vigilantes (or angry neighbours) will follow you from the liquor store (or stake out your house) and if they see you carry in your purchase from your car then they would call the police an hour or so later saying you were drinking while driving (you weren’t). The police would take your breath sample (after a few drinks) and arrest you under Justin’s law.
What if Ezra, Scheer, or Sheila were the victims of this kind of set up?
CBC headline: (insert name here) Arrested On Criminal Drinking And Driving.
commented 2019-01-16 11:57:08 -0500
LIZA ROSIE commented 8 hours ago.
I wonder if they would chance the optics of breaking your door down, if they showed up at someones house for a breathalyzer? Who would have though we would be seeing this sort of government overreach in Canada.
Canada under Trudeau no longer exists. We are now Canadistan.
commented 2019-01-16 11:43:23 -0500
Got a kick out of the reference to “Stedanko”. Although spelled a little different from “Sgt. Stedenko”, of Cheech and Chong fame, the similarity is clear…. Good choice of a name, David…
commented 2019-01-16 11:21:17 -0500
Some comments state that this signifies the death of democracy in Canada. You have no idea how right you really are.
Consider this list and then ask yourself, “Is democracy being threatened in Canada?”

Recognizing the signs of the collapse of democracy

There are 7 steps to becoming a socialist/communist state in North America.
5/7 are currently in place.

1. Health Care:
Control health care and you control the population. It controls the income of the nation.

2. Poverty:
Increase poverty levels as high as possible. The poor are easy to control on welfare because they won’t resist if you are providing for them.
When the unemployed outweigh the employed, national collapse occurs.

3. Debt:
Increase national debt to an unsustainable level so to increase taxes on the rich (the rich are considered those who are employed).
Take taxes and distribute to those who are unemployed (welfare)

4. Gun control:
Remove citizen’s ability to defend themselves from government control.

5. Welfare:
Control all aspects of people’s lives (food, housing, income etc) once you control the people you now control the voters. The more “refugees” that enter the country the more votes Trudeau will gain.

6. Education:
Control what children are being taught today and tomorrow it will become policy.
-teach children they have the right to entitlement and it becomes policy
-teach children they have the right to welfare over working and that too becomes policy
-teach children that homosexuality and transgender lifestyles are natural and those policies will be enforced upon us.

7. Class warfare:
Divide the employed from the unemployed (welfare recipients) and you gain full support for all decisions government will impose by force against the employed.
-racially divide the people
-economically divide the people
-politically divide the people

These steps make it easier to tax the rich and create anger which gathers voting support of the poor.
commented 2019-01-16 10:38:22 -0500
The police are not on our side, they always come off being against you, rather than enforcing your rights.This is clearly a preemptive strike on our free culture, getting ready to enforce the guidelines within Sharia Law, no alcohol.
commented 2019-01-16 10:36:11 -0500
Are the cops in Ontario SO idle they can take time to “stake out” beer stores? Ontario must be a paradise, safest place on the planet.
commented 2019-01-16 10:09:47 -0500
Show up on my property without a warrant, bring a vest.
commented 2019-01-16 09:27:32 -0500
P m waste of skin is turning Canada into a POLICE STATE with this, and you can bet the " above the law" cops will be abusing the hell out of this..WAKE UP CANADIANS
commented 2019-01-16 08:40:28 -0500
Turn off the lights ,turn up the stereo and don’t answer the door. Let them break the door down if they are that obsessed with getting you..
commented 2019-01-16 07:39:52 -0500
Liza said, "Who would have though we would be seeing this sort of government overreach in Canada. "

To tell you the truth, I did not see it coming until within about the last 10 years.

Robert, I will have to look up the “Alinsky rules for radicals.”
commented 2019-01-16 04:44:16 -0500
Peter, it is called projection. The far left projects it’s own fascism onto conservatives. It’s Alinsky rules for radicals 101.
commented 2019-01-16 03:33:44 -0500
I wonder if they would chance the optics of breaking your door down, if they showed up at someones house for a breathalyzer? Who would have though we would be seeing this sort of government overreach in Canada.
commented 2019-01-16 03:28:25 -0500
I am glad I don’t drink alcohol nor smoke pot.

The federal Liberals are proving themselves to be tyrants in a whole lot of ways.

It is funny that at the same time Trudeau claimed he liked China’s basic dictatorship he accused Harper of wanting to be a tyrant. Justin is proving that he is exactly what he accused Harper of wanting to be.

If Scheer takes office next election I doubt he will repeal this law, so it is here to stay.
commented 2019-01-15 22:09:51 -0500
David, It would interesting to hear from Generation Trudeau in one of their drinking nights what they think about this new law.
commented 2019-01-15 19:55:25 -0500
Trudeau is making the laws up as he go’s along. His Islamic Masters do not approve of alcohol and he bends over to appease them. Yet anal sex with six year old boys is just fine…..With our Muslim master.
commented 2019-01-15 19:49:40 -0500
The best part is that the coppers can come to your home within two hours of you driving and demand a breath sample. If you blow over, the onus is then on you to prove that you were not impaired when you were operating your vehicle. You will have to hire a 10K-15K toxicologist to do this. Yipes!