October 20, 2015

Liberals in blue ties need not apply for Conservative party leader

Brian LilleyArchive

I take a look at some of the names being bandied about for the next Conservative leader to replace Stephen Harper.

Some of those names can't be taken seriously but there are some legitimate names that are worthy of consideration.

Not the ones that are put forward by columnists who hate us. We need a real leader who can articulate conservative principles in an easy fashion.

That means we have to be a part of defining who and what the conservative party leader is and should be, not the pundit class in Ottawa.


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commented 2015-10-24 10:16:04 -0400
Having read Maxime Bernier’s Calgary Speech: “My vision of conservatism” I am intrigued by the possibility of his candidacy.
commented 2015-10-22 23:06:50 -0400
Justin Trudeau needs to expel Turkey and Qatar from this country, along with Saudi Arabia… Get their embassies out of here, goddammit, these people openly funded terrorists with Harper… Now they’re trying to step it up against RUSSIA. These people are insane. I get the feeling that Trudeau is totally cool with Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey… Just like Harper was, must be that whole “change” thing at work, I guess.
commented 2015-10-22 22:55:17 -0400
First off, Brad Wall is in with globalists, so probably not a good choice at all.

Kenney seemed good for a while, but the temporary foreign worker program pretty much had me lose faith in him. No thanks. Same for all those dinosaur Tories.

Conservative Party of Canada, its leaders are very timid and soft, for fear of looking bad in the far-left’s propaganda… It’s a losing strategy. Time to man up, stop trying to appeal to leftists.

Lower our damn taxes, cease immigration, cease foreign-aid and all foreign commitments, allow us to opt out of many forms of government intrusion.

I don’t see true Liberty in Canada working now, not with people so stupid. No, instead Canada will skip off into World War 3 with Israeli Zionists, Wahabbi towelheads, and their Turkish brokers.
commented 2015-10-22 20:57:04 -0400
If the conservative party wants to win the next election the leader will have to come from outside the party.
commented 2015-10-22 14:24:36 -0400
Interesting, Terry, thanks. But in my case Notley also has refused the keystone xl pipeline. I’ve had to regroup and am still trying to make lemonade out of all this.
commented 2015-10-22 13:09:57 -0400
Terry, I agree, I just hope that all that hard work done by both leaders isn’t pissed away. I already have lost a $400,000 contract due to political ideology on the keystone xl pipeline.
commented 2015-10-22 12:40:58 -0400
Kelvin, I think in fairness you have to split the credit for Canada’s relative economic health between the Conservatives and Liberals, starting in 95 with Paul Martin’s killer budget (under Chretien), and his subsequent reforms to the Banking Act. Harper inherited a solid fiscal ship, and to his credit, he maintained it through a very rough period.
commented 2015-10-22 11:36:49 -0400
You have a lot of valid points Terry. Harper also brought this country through one of the worst resessions since the Great Depression ( which btw we’re heading for again imo) . But it does feel like Canada just got out of school for the summer, to while away the hours having fun, instead of getting a job and making money to pay for next years tuition.
As far as choosing a " tea bagger" leader for the conservatives, it ain’t going to happen, I truly believe that the right has learned their lessons in that regard. Canada is much to liberalized for that, as we’ve seen with the job that Harper has done to date.
I do hope however, that Trudeau does come to the centre . His ultra far left stance can only hurt Canada and divide it worse that it is now. So choosing the next leader of the conservatives is going to be one of the biggest challenges to date, I just hope that they pick wisely and that they have some distance from the " old guard" so to speak, because the media won’t let the " old guard" die off gracefully if you get my drift.
commented 2015-10-22 11:05:06 -0400
Harper’s greatest political achievement was to unite the right into a Conservative party that managed to keep its more extreme edges subdued while presenting a reasonably electable fact to a country sick of the Liberals. Based on the tone of some of the commentary, I wonder if there’s a danger that the alliance Harper managed to broker between reform, old Blue Tories, and Red Tories may fracture under the stress of this defeat. That, it seems to me, should be a real concern: a divided right kept the Liberals in power for a long time (and will also guarantee a Democratic victory next year in the States.)
commented 2015-10-22 10:22:02 -0400
Yes, why not go off the deep end and ensure unelectability in the next election?
How about a classic progressive Conservative for a change, perhaps even someone who is not cold blooded?
commented 2015-10-21 17:54:49 -0400
I think we all need to think carefully before picking a new leader. We need someone telegenic, intelligent, outgoing, pleasant, willing-to-suffer-CBC fools-gladly, innovative, educated, fresh and above all – electable. And given the current need for ‘new’ faces, someone younger. So I look at all the prospective candidates mentioned so far and I arrive at either Lisa Raitt or Michelle Rempel. I am a long-time Conservative (un-reformed Reformer) but I well remember another great conservative female – Margaret Hilda Thatcher (RIP).
Come on gentlemen, its time to try something different and the two women I have mentioned above meet most, if not all the criteria I have listed. Besides if Ms. Clinton does win in 2016 in the US that may whet the Canadian appetite for a female PM and we know that the Liberals aren’t going to do it, nor the NDP since their prize femme went down in flames in Halifax on Monday night.
commented 2015-10-21 14:04:06 -0400
Sharon Moore – I agree, I think Lisa could take Junior!
commented 2015-10-21 13:43:01 -0400
The political qualifications for a PM are being discussed here, and of course they are important, however usually manipulated any way they want by most of the News Media. But there’s another component to a PM’s job beyond political image and media acceptance. Here’s a simple exercise that the Canadian News Media apparently has never done, and sadly most Canadians have never done it as well. Yet it’s not that complex and it can help to focus our thoughts and opinions – albeit too late for our recent “coronation.”

Irrespective of their political policies and their ideas for Change, if you were selecting a person to lead, direct and manage the most important multi-billion dollar organization in Canada; an organization that has a profound and in many instances the most significant impact on your livelihood, on your standard of living and quality of life, on your personal and family/community safety, on your future; and similarly for everyone else in a country of almost 40 million people: what do you think the personal qualifications ought to be for a person to successfully fulfill such a position and to ensure that the Government actually works??

Keep in mind that “Qualification” categories go far beyond “political and physical attractiveness.” The list needs to include appropriate personal knowledge, skills, and experience. They could also be prioritized. What does a PM actually need to know; what to do and how to do it – including leading, developing and managing a Cabinet, leading a Political party, developing, coordinating and communicating government policy and direction, negotiating with other Political Leaders, many of which have competitive interests regarding Canada, and many more. Maybe TheRebel could contribute its experience and assistance here.

Without a well qualified and prepared PM, who will fill that vacuum !!, and/or how long will it take for the Institution of Government to become chaotic and collapse? There are many examples of this across the world over the past Century.

It’s a little telling how the Newspapers are full of job searches every week listing the requirements for success for any and all jobs from sales clerks and construction workers and nurses to general managers and presidents. Yet discussions about the requirements for fulfilling the responsibilities of Prime Minister are rarely mentioned, if at all by the Media, while promoting their preferred political hero.

What’s your opinion? It’s just as valid as that of someone who simply reads news reports on the TV or is a political speech writer or strategist.
commented 2015-10-21 13:23:59 -0400
Conservatives in Canada need to find their own Rick Santorum.
commented 2015-10-21 13:23:00 -0400

I would guess that Ben Mulroney is a liberal.
commented 2015-10-21 13:17:35 -0400
Finished just in time. That wino looked like he wanted a say.
commented 2015-10-21 13:13:30 -0400
l am a Conservative Party supporter and not a Liberal Party fan. However, after the disastrous Liberal Leadership of Stephane Dion followed by that of Michael Ignatieff, I told my wife that the Liberal Party is nuts and they should run Justin Trudeau for Leader. It was sort of a joke and sort of not a joke. He had the pedigree being a son of past PM Pierre Elliot Trudeau, looked good and was younger, much better than the former leaders. However, at the time, before I began following Sun TV, I was not aware of Justin Trudeau’s serious shortcomings upstairs. But look what happened, Justin Trudeau not only got elected but with a majority. Now I see all these names bandied about for the next leader of the CP and shake my head. Why right in front of your noses, on CTV and every week night is the answer on E-talk. Ben Mulroney, age 39, good looking 6’ 1" tall son of former Conservative PM Brian Mulroney (1983-1993), BA in History at Duke University and Bachelor of Laws from Laval, married with three children and very well known from his ongoing television and radio career since 2002. What, no political experience you say? Well, what about our PM elect? Ben appears to be fair smart and well-educated so he could learn. And, with some time in the gym perhaps he could fare better in the boxing ring than Brazeau did! So before you go off half cocked and call me nuts, just mull it around a bit. Remember who actually just got elected as PM of Canada with a majority…the Shiny Pony!
commented 2015-10-21 12:53:40 -0400
E McK, I agree. There are also moral issues that could be more clearly defined, while others can be a little more hazy depending on a person’s religious views, or just personal beliefs. I strongly believe that people can do whatever they want in their personal lives, as long as they’re not hurting others as a result.
commented 2015-10-21 12:50:05 -0400
I thought I was the only one who noticed some of the names being put forth in todays Sun. Charest, really. The guy ran as a liberal in Quebec. Doug Ford has too much baggage and the 99% of canadian media being liberal, they will just have a field day with that.
commented 2015-10-21 12:46:57 -0400
I want a principled strong man for leader and my picks are John Baird, Brad Wall and Jason Kenney.
commented 2015-10-21 12:39:19 -0400
Michlle “Social Issues” are really moral issues.
commented 2015-10-21 12:36:30 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, thank-you. I agree, gender is not a factor. I wish everyone would all look at each other as human beings first before gender/skin color.
commented 2015-10-21 12:32:56 -0400
Jimmy Da Silva, you’re probably right. Canadians tend to be more centre or centre-left, which is why I was so surprised by this election’s results. Trudeau has brought the Liberal party far too much to the left which didn’t appeal to me as a centrist. I think the best government is a combination of the two. When it comes to economic and security matters, Conservatives are the better choice, but when it comes to social views, Liberals ideals are preferred in a modern society.
commented 2015-10-21 12:27:36 -0400
“Guys this is going to sound horrible but Canada’s most hated premiers are women. And the last woman that PC’S had almost destroyed the party. I’m not sexist I’m just stating a fact "

This is an interesting hypothesis, so I decided to evaluate it. I took the Sept 1 Angus Reid premier ranking and analysed the data within for the nine provinces ranked (PEI is excluded). Six provinces have male premiers, three have female.

Male: Average approval 36%. Std. Dev 14%. Range 22% (Selinger/MB) to 61% (Wall/SK).
Female: Average approval 37%, Std. Dev 11%. Range 31% (Wynne/ON) to 50% (Notley/AB).
The median is 32%, and that is Christie Clark. Wynne is within MOE of Clark. There is one female below the median and one above the median; there are three males below the median and three above. The two worst are both male; the two best are Wall and Notley.

Thus, we can conclude that this hypothesis is disproved. Female premiers are not “most hated”. There is no gender correlation at all.
commented 2015-10-21 12:23:04 -0400
Myles Kakeeway, I’m not accusing you of being sexist, but please don’t always bring gender up when discussing things like this. There have been plenty of hated male politicians too, but their gender is never called out. It’s not about a person’s sex, it’s the individual person. Look at Michelle Rempel. I very much admire this young woman. She’s amazing and she would be just as amazing if she were a man. It’s comments like yours, bringing gender into everything, that has turned a lot of women off from the Conservative party. I was one of them, but because of Harper, I started backing the Conservatives, and discovered there are actually a lot of Conservative men with more modern views on women who I’ve been very pleased to meet, as well as plenty of strong-willed Conservative women. Instead of focusing on gender, let’s focus on the individual person who can make a positive difference in our country where the future now is very uncertain.
commented 2015-10-21 12:07:46 -0400
Charleton said, “The left will turn Wall into a demon like they did Harper.”

But that could be said for any leader, couldn’t it?
commented 2015-10-21 11:10:23 -0400
Keith: “We need somebody who is loud, quick to answer and with a strong sense of humor.” Agreed. Don Cherry.
commented 2015-10-21 10:53:11 -0400
We need somebody who is loud, quick to answer and with a strong sense of humor. Anyone remember John Crosby?