March 03, 2018

Liberals “scapegoat” lawful Canadian gun owners after Florida shooting

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show


Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale is promising more rules for lawful Canadian gun owners in the next few years and is taking encouragement from the American calls for gun control after the recent school shooting in Florida.

Goodale told Ipolitics:

“we're working on the final detail right now. It's just about ready to go to the house. I hope to table it in Parliament within the next few weeks.”

Those previously promised reforms include requiring gun retailers to cooperate with police investigations and to keep sales and inventory records - like a registry.

The Liberals previously promised to “tighten up” rules around transport permits for restricted firearms and it would seem that accosting lawful firearms owners will be the only Liberal election promise they may actually keep.

But it’s really not about keeping promises. Since when do Liberals do that anyway? This is about changing the channel away from the Liberals disastrous trip to India and preying on our emotions about the Parkland shooting to do it.

It’s shameless and unfounded.

Watch my video to see why we should all be frightened by a government that takes its policy cues from poorly coached child activists in another country, rather than evidence.

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commented 2018-03-04 15:19:30 -0500
The same government that has restrictions on countless things that we have no problem with when it comes to public safety, health and other factors. Who are the government to tell me that I shouldn’t be allowed to shoot heroin every day legally. It’s my body. See what I mean. Would you be fine with all drugs being legal?

You are making a false argument. Let’s say you own 20 different kinds of guns: restricting one gun has no bearing on the 19 other guns you own. You can kiss all those guns as much as you want.

I think this cartoon is quite appropriate.
commented 2018-03-04 15:14:08 -0500
No one needs a military grade assault rifle to protect their family from a home invasion and you can still use the many other guns that you probably own.
Wrong mr ignoramus shooting his mouth off. Assault rifles are already prohibited in Canuckistan. You cannot defend yourself with any guns in Canuckistan since they must be kept locked up at all times and stored separately from the ammunition. IF they are stored too easily accessible you will be charged whether or not your life is in danger.

If you don’t know your topic I suggest you button your pie hole.
commented 2018-03-04 15:10:21 -0500
So, Bob you didn’t watch the video as predicted?
commented 2018-03-04 15:08:53 -0500
And if anyone is really interested check out the security for the Oscars.
commented 2018-03-04 15:05:54 -0500
Who are you or the government to tell Canadians what guns they can own Bob Rock? Criminals do not worry about restrictions.
commented 2018-03-04 14:41:14 -0500
Remember High River. It is better that the government is afraid of us, than we become afraid of the government
commented 2018-03-04 14:41:14 -0500
Remember High River. It is better that the government is afraid of us, than we become afraid of the government
commented 2018-03-04 14:34:01 -0500
Why do gun lovers think that just because the government wants to restrict one kind of gun or military grade assault rifles, that this somehow means that they are coming for all of your guns. It doesn’t make sense, but it seems to be a common argument from gun lovers. Taking away one gun doesn’t equal all.

No one needs a military grade assault rifle to protect their family from a home invasion and you can still use the many other guns that you probably own.

It should be difficult to get a gun like anything else requiring a license and you should have to go through a course on proper gun handling and usage that is repeated every 10 years, but you have nothing to worry about if you don’t have a criminal record or history of particular mental health issues that could be problematic for someone to own a gun.

It shouldn’t be easier to get a gun that it is to get a license to operate a forklift in a warehouse.
commented 2018-03-04 14:30:29 -0500
I am sure these same Liberal assholes were glad to have armed security when the asshole who murdered Cpl. Cirillo came running towards the House of Parliament. Justin probably shit his pants.
commented 2018-03-04 13:40:46 -0500
The Liberal’s basic tenet is that private ownership of firearms should be abolished. They’ll just chisel and chip away at it until they get their way. While I detest Liberals, I thought that Goodale was preferable to Bill Blair who would have gone after gun owners with a chainsaw. The urban hipster masses are completely ignorant about Canadian legitimate gun ownership and use and are fed a diet of biased articles by the Liberal financed MSM. So most Canadians think anything that cracks down on gun ownership is good. Look at that ridiculous recent poll in which it was found that some high percentage of Canadians felt that gun ownership be prohibited in cities. The MSM and Liberals push the narrative that gun ownership equals crime and violence. Yet Liberals have fostered a criminal friendly justice system for certain politically correct classes of people who are back on the street after having committed burglary and theft…
As long as Canada is controlled by the current political system in which the vote is determined by the more populous and Liberal urban Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal corridor, there’s always going to be an irrational hostility to private gun ownership.
Our best hope is to see the Liberals defeated in 2019. I know Scheer is more gun friendly but he’s timid about it lest that he excite and agitate the CBC to a conniption fit…
God save us from this Liberal pestilence…
commented 2018-03-04 13:30:35 -0500
So why do you think they go after lawful people? Because they are trying to remove all guns and rifles from the ordinary citizen. With no guns and rifles the police have no fear when the time comes when the govt becomes a dictatorship . No opposition then .You don’t bring knives to a gun fight with troups. You are totally controllable then
commented 2018-03-04 13:19:01 -0500
" Jill and John Ward commented 2018-03-04 12:53:15 -0500
merely a means to completely deny canadians the right to arms to "

We don’t have the “right to arms” in Canada.

Ted Tadright commented 2018-03-03 16:37:46 -0500
Andrew, here’s where your ‘gun-vehicle’ comparison logically leads to. First,on the vehicle side:

If vehicles were treated as guns are in Canada, you would have to keep your vehicle locked away in a safe inside your carport, with no gas in the tank, and if you wanted to take it out to the grocery store, or almost anywhere else, forget it, not happenin’. "

That’s basically how hobby racecars work, and is most comparable to hobbyist target shooters. Day to day travel is of course simpler (but still registered and licensed, obviously, “punishing” civilians… or something). However that has no analogue with guns, which have no comparable use to the majority of Canadians who don’t have a practical use for guns.

Now on the gun side:

“, load it with ammunition, consider whether or not you’re going to be prosecuted for that and for any other action you take to defend yourself and your loved ones, and … well, forget it, you’re already dead. "

That seems to be the NRA argument, anyway. Unforutnately, the evidence doesn’t bear it out. Were civilian weapons the only line between anarchy and civilization, then the US should have a much lower level of mass shootings than the (as per NRA) “more vulnerable” Canadians. Yet the opposite is true. It certainly appears that preventing tragedies is a better strategy than trying to stop them midway through – and bear in mind that this is in Canada, which has ready access to grey and black market guns originating in the US’s own slow moving bloodbath. Imagine how much lower our crime rate would be if the Americans got themselves under control? If a bad guy with an automatic weapon, the element of surprise, and no regard for collateral damage walks in and starts shooting, you’re pretty much dead anyway. By the time you have your handgun out, aimed such that you’re not taking out the other good guys accidentally, and fire a shot, he’s unloaded a dozen bullets in your general direction.

I would rather live in a country where I don’t need to arm myself. Canada is still one of those countries.

“Robert Raymond commented 2018-03-03 19:43:55 -0500
If the populace has no weapons, it can never overthrow the dictraitor in a dictatorship.”

This might have been true 200 years ago, when dictator’s militaries were often cobbled together from a ragtag bunch of farmers, and both the military and resisting militias peaked out at musket-armed cavalry. Today, the populace’s bullets will bounce harmlessly off the side of the dictator’s tanks.

“Nothing that Andrew ever says makes any sense to sensible thinking people. He lives to cause controversy and actually posts on The Rebel under different names.” Which different names are those? Link, please.

Gun ownership is a fringe issue to most Canadians, fewer than 20% actually own them.

“Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 2018-03-03 22:12:32 -0500
Ted, the all knowing Andrew didn’t object to Colten Bouchie having a rifle in the front seat of his vehicle.” When was that? Link, please.
commented 2018-03-04 12:53:15 -0500
merely a means to completely deny canadians the right to arms to protect themselves from the scum the liberals are allowing in freely, no questions, none investigated, none refused entry , none removed and all exempt from canadians laws as they may be offensive to them!
commented 2018-03-04 11:10:09 -0500
So we are to set policy here in Canada based apon another countries tragedy even though we don’t have a problem, um yes says the liberals….
commented 2018-03-04 11:03:55 -0500
The left’s response is as predictable as it is illogical. Punish ALL law abiding people for the actions of a few in one case while ignoring another. Lets switch a couple words around and see how it affects the narrative. Of course law abiding Muslims should be treated the same as law abiding gun owners by being severely restricted and placed on a National Registry, right? The events in the US are simply an excuse to implement the laws they have wanted all along. As for the crime stats, break it down to racial demographics and you will see much the same thing as is found in the US. A couple very small groups are doing almost all of the violent crime.
commented 2018-03-04 10:09:05 -0500
How to get large target on your back in Canada
1 Suggest stopping the sharia oil 800,000 barrels a day imported into eastern Canada by tanker billions sent out of this country.
2 Suggest the little old lady be able to shoot MR. methamphetamine when he breaches into her home.
3 Point out the lobby groups funded by foreign money working against Canadians and Canada being oil self sufficient, by building refineries and pipelines and yes coal fired power plants.
4. You will be arrested if you cross the boarder illegally. Not given money housing and health care.
5. 200 million just to help the back log of illegal border crosser, who will never show up for their hearing. The reason the numbers are not being reported is because its millions.
6 Giving millions to terrorists while our own people in need go without.
7 Billions given away so even our children can pay for decades to come. All the while those fakugees get everything for free. Not our seniors, disabled ,veterans.
8. Suggest crap like C-16 and M-103 are against free speech.
9 ISIS fighters returning should be tried for treason.
10 Point out a misspelled word can now send you to jail.
commented 2018-03-04 09:48:16 -0500
Required viewing on the subject. Our leftist pals will not watch it or if they do they will uphold the three pillars of leftiedom- they never learn from their mistakes, they never learn from other peoples mistakes and they refuse to exercise discernment. Can’t wait for Andrew and Bob to respond.
commented 2018-03-04 09:41:29 -0500
BOB ROCK commented 2018-03-03 20:45:11 -0500
I don’t see the problem here. People should have to jump through hoops to get a gun just like they do if you want to get a license for any vehicle.
Bobby boy you have no idea the amount of hoops we jump through now nor the idiotic restrictions we face. Why do we need more. I suggest you apply for an RPAL to see what we go through. You don’t ever have to buy a gun but it would be good for a leftist know-nothing to speak with intelligence and experience.
commented 2018-03-04 09:40:52 -0500
The very first step a dictatorship takes is confiscate weapons from the population. This way they can be “controlled” easier.

With all the Muzzies The Clown Prince Trudeau is importing the white christian population needs all the firepower it can find.

Arm yourselves folks, you’ll need it.
commented 2018-03-04 09:38:12 -0500
Agreed, Flat Earth. Intoxication is the root problem so we need to have a booze registry and ideally prohibition of it.
commented 2018-03-04 08:35:12 -0500
What ever happened with the Quebec City Mosque Massacre? What is the government hiding ? Never hear or see anything in the media even here at THEREBEL.
You can be sure that anyone that the Trudeau Government accuses of hate speech will have their guns confiscated
Sharia 103 will ensure that anyone with a thought that disagrees with this totalitarian oriented government will be persecuted.
We need a Bill of Rights and new Constitution. .
commented 2018-03-04 07:43:50 -0500
Drew and Al, don’t bother arguing logic and facts to the inbred regressive Libtards. You can never reason with their stupidity, they WILL turn violent rather than admit they are in the wrong. Libtards are recruited from the shallow end of the gene pool.
commented 2018-03-04 05:11:09 -0500
No mother should have to fear for the life of her son every time he’s intoxicated, armed and committing robbery with weapons and accomplices.
commented 2018-03-04 04:20:37 -0500
Andrew and Bob this reminds me that i know someone who got her license without taking the test, she paid the tester $80 , she did not jump through any hoops. Now you go right on thinking bureaucracy is keeping you safe.
commented 2018-03-04 03:35:23 -0500
Sorry far more hoops to buy a gun than to get a license.
commented 2018-03-04 03:34:47 -0500
Bob Rock you go through far more hoops to get a license. And like i said below vehicles are used out in public , you cannot carry a gun around or leave it parked somewhere.
commented 2018-03-04 03:33:24 -0500
Andrew Stephenson Ted had a good point and i will expand on it. Vehicles can be used far more places where guns cannot be , you cannot even carry a gun in many places where a vehicle can be used. And there are lots of regulations already , you speak like there are none. Most would not oppose the registry if it did not cost so much and was not abused like it was in High River. The government needs to show respect as well. And anyone who did not grow up in a big city will tell you the RCMP are less trusted than a city cop would be. If you have a vehicle on private property like a barn or a garage or even your yard it does not require registration.
commented 2018-03-04 02:05:48 -0500
BOB ROCK commented 2018-03-03 20:45:11 -0500
I don’t see the problem here. People should have to jump through hoops to get a gun just like they do if you want to get a license for any vehicle. Restricting a particular kind of gun or guns like assault rifles, doesn’t take away the tons of other kinds of guns that you can own.
Bob you and Andrew know nothing about the topic at hand. Did you read the previous responses to Andrews lame comparison?

One major difference is that when I won a car the government can’t tell where I can drive it and how much gas I can put in it

Should the government be able to tell you what car you can own? After all no one needs a car that can go faster than 100 Km/h. No 8 cyl cars- 4 cylinders only. Should the government tell you what kind of TV you can own? How large the screen? Should they tell you what art work you can buy and how to hang it. Canada already has a very low murder rate so why add more intrusive BS? How will records stop murder? Its just more liberal harassment of law abiding gunners.

The Governor of North Dakota had a good comment when they introduced constitutional their carry law. " Criminals have always had concealed carry. All our permits did was harass law abiding gun owners who wouldn’t use a gun illegally even without a permit."
North Dakota’s murder rate is significantly less than Manitoba next door in spite of all the Canadian BS legislation.

Has the registration of vehicles stopped them from being used illegally? How is it working out in Berlin? And Nice. And London? And Melbourne? New York? Barcelona? Charlottesville? Stockholm? Jerusalem? Ohio State University? Dijon? Montreal? Glasgow? Toulouse?

There is no technological solution to a spiritual problem. Criminals and terrorists will always find a weapon.
commented 2018-03-04 00:15:26 -0500
i hope they are not trying the gun registry sounds like it.
commented 2018-03-03 22:12:32 -0500
Ted, the all knowing Andrew didn’t object to Colten Bouchie having a rifle in the front seat of his vehicle. The stock was reported to have been broken when it was used in a burglary and theft attempt at a nearby farm!