July 29, 2018

Liberals stay on path of economic destruction to secure “Trump-hate” votes

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

On Friday’s episode of The Ezra Levant Show, Manny Montenegrino, President & CEO Think Sharp Inc, joined me to give us an update on Canada-U.S. trade negotiations.


Manny is a keen observer of trade and politics between our nations having followed the issue for years, even before Donald Trump became President.

He has shared his thoughts with us at other key moments, like when Trudeau refused to budge on supply management in the Canadian dairy sector and when Canada rejected Trump’s offer of a trade deal with a five-year sunset clause.

It has seemed to Manny that Trudeau and Gerald Butts are more interested in satisfying anti-Trump Canadians for political reasons, than they are in reaching an agreement with Trump and now he has seen the smoking gun.

Watch as Manny lays out his case and brings us up to date.

You can continue to follow Manny’s running list of factual examples on Twitter at @manny_ottawa.

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commented 2018-07-30 12:39:23 -0400
Obama’s Social Media Warriors spent 9 months in Canada promoting the Drama Teacher . . .
UNIFOR, Public Sector Unions, the inept far-left Canadian Media ALL promoted the inept Justin . . .
The Eastern Establishment Media hated Harper . . . . after ALL he was from Calgary. They prefer the MO of the previous 4 PMs. ALL from Keybec and ALL worked for Power Corp.

2015 . . . the Year 39% of Canadians voted themselves Off the Island . . . . who needs Balanced Budgets and Surpluses anyway . . . when you can give Billions to the UN, the CBC and Despotic Regimes around the globe.

Remember when . . . .
World’s Richest Middle Class . . . NY Times
World’s Best Reputation . . . Reputation Institute
Best Wage Growth in G7 Nations . . . 2007-2012
Best Oilfield Salaries in the World . . .
Best Oilfield Enviro Regs in the World . . . Harvard Bus School
Best Country to do Business . . . . Forbes
World’s Best Debt to GDP Ratio , . . OECD

ALL of that is in the REAR VIEW Mirror today Canada . . . . as you wallow towards European Failed State Status.
commented 2018-07-30 12:07:08 -0400
“…. finds out Trump isn’t as unpopular with Canadians as he thinks. "

Wish you were right, ROBERT. But turdo la doo is on very safe ground if he plays the anti-Yank/anti-Trump card. He’s not very smart, and he’s totally incompetent, but he just can’t go wrong playing this hand.
commented 2018-07-30 11:48:01 -0400
It’s going to be pretty funny when our post nationalist PM, who is hiding behind Canadian nationalism, finds out Trump isn’t as unpopular with Canadians as he thinks.
commented 2018-07-30 11:44:08 -0400
“Andy Neimers commented 11 hours ago
Ms. Stephenson – re milk marketing boards on the Canadian side of the border, and subsidies on the American side… The obvious answer to both is to eliminate them and let market realities prevail and consumers enjoy the realities… “Free Trade” eh??… Is there something defensible about Canadian consumers having had to pay for overpriced dairy products, for decades now, just to keep some millionaire Quebec, Ontario and B.C. farmers burping and happy?… "

It’s a reasonable argument to make, but not what’s on offer, and given the power of the dairy lobbies on both sides of the border, likely never will be. Dairy farmers are always going to be “millionaires” because of the capital requirements for dairy farming.

No, there’s nothing defensible about it (although the degree to which we overpay is overstated, remove the subsidy and account for exchange rate and American milk’s only slightly cheaper than ours).

“Albert Maga commented 9 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson Trump offered both sides to drop all tariffs , how would Justin be his lapdog if he agreed to that? Justin will let Ontario suffer for his Quebec cartel. "

Tariffs, yes. Subsidies, no. It’s the subsidies that are the problem. If it costs $4 to produce milk on either side of the border, but Uncle Sam chips in a dollar towards American producers, they can sell it for 3 while ours still goes for 4. Guess what happens to Canadian producers? Yet that’s the deal Trump wants in order to bilaterally remove the tariffs. It’s a shit deal, and Trudeau would be a fool to roll over and take it, like a common lapdog. The “Quebec cartel” is still a Canadian economic interest, no less worth protecting than any else, and there’s no guarantee Trump won’t change the rules again and demand we close whatever sector the present deal aspires to protect. Once you start giving ground, when does it end?

“Mark Chadwick commented 43 mins ago
Andrew and whos fault is that ? You spin everything to your agenda . "
Trump’s. Trudeau was happy with the existing deal. It is not he who is rocking the boat.

“Keith Barnes commented 2 hours ago
STEPHENSON.
I would ask you a question.

Why is it that your God, young Master Trudeau, feels that he has to have the Muslim vote behind him for the next elections. He appears to feel strongly about this, so strongly in fact, that he is going to let them vote without identification, thus enabling them to vote three or four times. Is young Master Trudeau so insecure that he feels that he needs this? Perhaps he intends to become an instant Dictator. Whatever his reasons, he is going against all the rules of Democracy and his whole plan should be taken before The High Court, via a Class Action Lawsuit.

What are his intentions Master Stephenson, Is Canada to become a third world slaughterhouse? "

Let’s start from the top. First of all, the Muslims are naturally quite small-c conservative and will happily vote for the Conservatives, as long as the party is not dog-whistling to nativists. Doug Ford did far better in the Muslim-rich Toronto suburbs than he did in the very white central city – liberal social policies tend to make them uncomfortable, and for example the pushback against sex-ed was largely driven by socially conservative immigrant communities. Those anti-sex-ed protests had a LOT of Muslims in them, and they and the evangelical Christians are natural allies. In urban communities where xenophobia isn’t a major factor, both sides know that too.

Second of all, there’s no real evidence that vote fraud is actually occurring (yes, they could conceivably vote 3 times, but there’s little evidence they actually are). Harper won a majority in 2011 despite the existence of those same vouching rules that Trudeau has re-instated. We had precisely one election with strict ID rules, and Trudeau won it. Given these observations together, perhaps lax voter ID rules actually favoured the conservatives.

“His Plan” isn’t really a thing. Like I said, it’s a rollback. If you’re going to ask about him wanting to be a “dictator” then your focus should be his abandonment of electoral reform, since ending first-past-the-post would virtually guarantee he would never again form a majority government.

“liza rosie commented 1 hour ago
The lack of understanding about Trump is beyond belief.”

Trump’s easy to understand. He wants to personally “win” everything, even at the expense of productive policy or even ideological consistency.
commented 2018-07-30 10:38:42 -0400
Andrew and whos fault is that ? You spin everything to your agenda .
commented 2018-07-30 10:38:20 -0400
“Trump does still seem to like Trudeau personally.” says Andrew.
The lack of understanding about Trump is beyond belief.
That is why we don’t have a nafta deal. Justin is an idiot and his people are as hideously incompetent as he is.
commented 2018-07-30 10:33:07 -0400
JAMES MACMASTER, I couldn’t agree more.
commented 2018-07-30 09:51:28 -0400
STEPHENSON.
I would ask you a question.

Why is it that your God, young Master Trudeau, feels that he has to have the Muslim vote behind him for the next elections. He appears to feel strongly about this, so strongly in fact, that he is going to let them vote without identification, thus enabling them to vote three or four times. Is young Master Trudeau so insecure that he feels that he needs this? Perhaps he intends to become an instant Dictator. Whatever his reasons, he is going against all the rules of Democracy and his whole plan should be taken before The High Court, via a Class Action Lawsuit.

What are his intentions Master Stephenson, Is Canada to become a third world slaughterhouse?
commented 2018-07-30 08:35:04 -0400
Shrug. The majority of our electorate treats politics no different than their favourite sports team. There is no objective analysis, there is no consideration of the future, only childish emotion.

The infantile anti-Yank sentiment that runs through the majority of our population is too deep to change. At the heart of it lies a massive inferiority complex that is built on the recognition that, by and large, Canadians are a petty and cowardly bunch. And what I’ve just said applies to “the right” certainly as much as it does to the left.
commented 2018-07-30 06:24:27 -0400
This is a prime example of why not to let Lieberals manage or govern anything. They’d screw up the Lord’s prayer if they knew it. And they are as crooked as a dog’s hind leg to boot.

#trudeauforprison2018
commented 2018-07-30 02:03:33 -0400
Andrew Stephenson Trump offered both sides to drop all tariffs , how would Justin be his lapdog if he agreed to that? Justin will let Ontario suffer for his Quebec cartel.
commented 2018-07-29 23:45:45 -0400
Ms. Stephenson – re milk marketing boards on the Canadian side of the border, and subsidies on the American side… The obvious answer to both is to eliminate them and let market realities prevail and consumers enjoy the realities… “Free Trade” eh??… Is there something defensible about Canadian consumers having had to pay for overpriced dairy products, for decades now, just to keep some millionaire Quebec, Ontario and B.C. farmers burping and happy?…
commented 2018-07-29 22:25:19 -0400
“Mark Chadwick commented 20 mins ago
Well now I have a liberal troll talking to me how many illegal people have been sent back and denied refugee status after Trudeaus welcome to Canada tweet ?”

I don’t know. If you have the numbers I’d love to see them. All I found was a CBC article saying 70% acceptance in 2017, which would suggest a couple thousand? The illegal crossers have overwhelmed the system and mostly haven’t been processed yet – impossible to say.

I don’t expect a lot of refugees are spending a lot of time on Twitter, and the obsession is bizarre. The concurrent crackdown in the US is the likelier cause.

“As for your question Trudeau visited Obama in Washington donated 20 something million to the Clinton foundation”
The Clinton Foundation donation was in 2017, after Trump became president. It’s also multiple orders of magnitudes smaller than NAFTA, which has an impact in the tens of billionns.

“Had Obama visit him in Canada . Visited the USA several times after Trump became president but did not meet him just loser demorats . So seriously do you think that did anything for Canadas and our relationship with Mr Trump ? "

Trudeau has visited Trump in the US, and vice-versa. From the sounds of it, the aggression is primarily from Trump, and again it’s not necessarily in Canada’s interest to blindly roll over to his demands. This will inevitably create tension, although Trump does still seem to like Trudeau personally.
commented 2018-07-29 22:07:54 -0400
LIza Rosie:

“Andrew pick any number you posted. We would be looking at enormous growth if we weren’t being regulated out of business and hobbled by extremist socialists.”

The numbers all look objectively pretty good, and relatively as well. We’re keeping up jobwise with the States. GDP is fractionally lower, but again, that’s because they’re borrowing a tremendous amount of money and that’s acting as stimulus.

We are neither being regulated out of business nor hobbled by “extreme socialists” (what does that latter term even mean?). Again, the numbers show that business is fine.

“More people have been pulled out of poverty with Capitalism (not the crony type)
More people have died in the name of socialism than capitalism. "
We have never had a purely capitalist, nor purely socialist, government, to compare to. Failed states lapse into something like pure capitalism in absence of anything else, while mos “socialist” countries aren’t socialist at all – it’s the dictatorship aspect that’s the problem, not the socialism. Most lie somewhere in the middle, and among those that do, the left-leaning ones do a whole lot better. The US is a great place to live if you’re in the upper half, and a paradise for the top 5% or so, but the social democracies of Europe and even Canada do better for the lower half. Income inequality is a major factor and it’s almost socialism by definition for the government to address that.

“Most of the growth has been public sector, which means I pay more for half the productivity. Canadians pay those wages.”
Assuming the baseline is October 2015, public employees have grown from 3628k to 3798k, or a growth of 170k. Private and self-employed (combined) have grown from 14,378k to 14,829k, or 451k. This means that 27% of new jobs are public sector. Not a great ratio, but not “most” either. The ratio of public workers has increased from 20.14% to a whopping 20.39%. "

(Cansim Table 14-10-0288-01; national numbers)

“Any decline in unemployment is due to multiple lower paying jobs, liberal mps say so themselves(I think it was climate barbie).”
This seems anecdotal. Given that wage growth went from 27.30 to 28.86 (average hourly wage, adults over 25, national numbers) since October 2015, I find this claim hard to believe. If it were due to lower paying jobs then that would show up in hourly wages, and it’s not. (Source: Statscan Table 14-10-0320-01) Our wage growth has been in the 3.5% range for a while, comparable to the US – their raw number is higher but so is their inflation due to that money-printing.

" How can resource employment be out doing numbers before companies shut down and pulled out?"
The numbers don’t lie. For one thing, most of the “pullouts” were years ago, and the rebound’s been more recent. For another, the remaining companies could easily be creating more than enough jobs to compensate, or even starting new ones.

“The same for manufacturing. Numbers can and are represented in different ways to look like different things. "

How so? A job’s a job. Statscan invariably tells you if they change methodology and if the numbers can’t be directly compared for some reason or another. Yes, some individual businesses have closed, but it appears to have been more than offset by gains in others. You simply remember the closures better than new openings.
commented 2018-07-29 21:54:16 -0400
Well now I have a liberal troll talking to me how many illegal people have been sent back and denied refugee status after Trudeaus welcome to Canada tweet ?
As for your question Trudeau visited Obama in Washington donated 20 something million to the Clinton foundation . Had Obama visit him in Canada . Visited the USA several times after Trump became president but did not meet him just loser demorats . So seriously do you think that did anything for Canadas and our relationship with Mr Trump ?
commented 2018-07-29 20:57:52 -0400
Great interview with Manny!
commented 2018-07-29 20:11:50 -0400
Most of the growth has been public sector, which means I pay more for half the productivity. Canadians pay those wages.

Any decline in unemployment is due to multiple lower paying jobs, liberal mps say so themselves(I think it was climate barbie). How can resource employment be out doing numbers before companies shut down and pulled out? The same for manufacturing. Numbers can and are represented in different ways to look like different things.
commented 2018-07-29 20:01:25 -0400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIlP7stcfgs
Tucker is spot on as per. Ledrew is an idiot as per. Was he dropped on his head in the same hospital Justin was?

I assume Justin is printing money to pay for this, or is he getting it from one of his globalist friends.

I wish Tucker would get a serious conservative to interview instead of this clown. Makes Canadians look stupid.

Andrew pick any number you posted. We would be looking at enormous growth if we weren’t being regulated out of business and hobbled by extremist socialists.

More people have been pulled out of poverty with Capitalism (not the crony type)
More people have died in the name of socialism than capitalism.
commented 2018-07-29 19:41:13 -0400
“Mark Chadwick commented 5 mins ago
Andrew I guess it was OK for JT to be Obama’s and Hillary’s lap dog . You Liberal nuts just keep the shit rolling down hill . Can’t wait for the final tally with the budget and the immigration blunder to be made public . Non of this was ever mention during the election .
We can wait for a trade deal once we deal out Trudeau Butt head and company . And take cryin Cynthia with you . "

What specific policy (ies) do you feel that Trudeau was Obama’s lapdog for, that bears roughly comparable impacts to NAFTA renegotiation?

Scheer has made it clear that he would do more or less the same thing. Trump’s demands are extremely one-sided, as I’ve previously pointed out. The sticking point of dairy is the case in point – Trump is not arguing for a fair deal, he’s arguing for one in which American farmers can dump their subsidized milk into our market, which has no hope of competing. How do you propose to solve that?
commented 2018-07-29 19:32:28 -0400
Andrew I guess it was OK for JT to be Obama’s and Hillary’s lap dog . You Liberal nuts just keep the shit rolling down hill . Can’t wait for the final tally with the budget and the immigration blunder to be made public . Non of this was ever mention during the election .
We can wait for a trade deal once we deal out Trudeau Butt head and company . And take cryin Cynthia with you .
commented 2018-07-29 19:29:02 -0400
“liza rosie commented 32 mins ago
Some growth off a shrunken base doesn’t mean much. Especially when it is largely in the public sector. "

What “shrunken base” is that? I mean, what number specifically do you refer to?
commented 2018-07-29 19:27:12 -0400
Dwayne Harvie commented 1 hour ago
Its called the Curley Effect. You create a problem and represent yourself as the solution to the problem. trudeau has been representing himself as the anti-trump since the primaries. Works for hm, not so much for us.

ANDREW STEPHENSON “It’s almost like Kenney wants to make the NDP look bad, for some reason.” No the NDP are looking bad on their own, no help needed. They are only slightly less incompetent than Butt’s liberals."

I hope you’re aware of the irony of your post, because both Kenney’s drama about the NDP, and the supposed destruction of the economy by Trudeau, are manifestations of the Curley effect. (Trump’s tariffs aren’t a created problem,, however. They’re a deliberate effort by Trump to cause economic damage to other countries such that he eventually gets his way, although it’s causing collateral damage even domestically).

They all do it – that Trudeau does it doesn’t make it any less repugnant to me. I’m not going to sit back and blindly applaud “my guy” no matter what he does.

There’s a simple reason – common triggers, like the economy: even when it’s great, could always be better, and falls prey to expectation creep. Ontario’s unemployment is very rarely below 6% – in the 42 years the numbers are available, only 60 months have; a few months in the mid-70s, just under three years 1987-90, ten months in 2000, and ten months from Aug. 2017 to now, It’s as good as it’s been in 20, maybe even 30 years. Yet that didn’t stop Doug Ford from running, successfully, on a platform decrying the economically ruinous Liberals. Alberta’s been the top job creator in Canada for more than a year now and has recovered all the jobs it lost, yet Kenney’s doing the same. BC’s had a carbon tax for a decade and has the lowest unemployment and among the best GDP growth in Canada.

Or, we get virtue signaling. The Left expands minority rights, but cant’ do it without making a big fuss about it. The Right gets resentful because they don’t like change, and virtue signal the other way, running on an “anti-whatever” agenda even though they know perfectly well the genie’s out of the bottle.

Meanwhile, the real issues don’t sell, or they’re not politically solveable. Our spiralling healthcare costs are due to demographics – and the foundation was laid for that when our fertility dropped below replacement nearly half a century ago. An inverted population pyramid causes all sorts of socio-economic problems in a country that has long relied on perpetual growth to run itself – and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it. Taxes have to go up. The number of workers is dropping as the Boomers retire, and they need healthcare. They can blunt it with immigration, but even that’s only dulled the crisis, not averted it. Even if they could fix it, this is all too complicated to be articulated in sound bites that can only remember things like “the budget will balance itself” out of a lengthy answer that actually described almost the same trickle-down economics favoured by politicians on both sides of the political spectrum.
commented 2018-07-29 18:56:08 -0400
Some growth off a shrunken base doesn’t mean much. Especially when it is largely in the public sector.
commented 2018-07-29 18:14:49 -0400
Are you new to politics Andrew?
commented 2018-07-29 17:38:48 -0400
Its called the Curley Effect. You create a problem and represent yourself as the solution to the problem. trudeau has been representing himself as the anti-trump since the primaries. Works for hm, not so much for us.

ANDREW STEPHENSON “It’s almost like Kenney wants to make the NDP look bad, for some reason.” No the NDP are looking bad on their own, no help needed. They are only slightly less incompetent than Butt’s liberals.
commented 2018-07-29 17:09:35 -0400
You still haven’t answered the question. I never asked about refugees. Germans were not refugees during the war. Answer the question O Gutless One.

What difference does it make that they were at war with Germany? We knew that not all Germans were Nazis. So why not let the good ones in?
commented 2018-07-29 16:36:08 -0400
“liza rosie commented 26 mins ago
”https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1022138945662988288" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1022138945662988288

Gerald says its baloney. You decide Canada. "

It’s almost like Kenney wants to make the NDP look bad, for some reason. I mean, it’s not like a former Harperite would ever try to deliberately smear his opponents or anything (does he think Notley has nice hair?) Of course, the facts don’t necessarily agree with his observations – Alberta’s creating jobs like crazy these days, but who needs those when you can cite an opinion column from a guy who has never written a positive article in his life?
commented 2018-07-29 16:29:43 -0400
Andy Neimers commented 10 mins ago
Gee Ms. Stephenson, are you suggesting that Canadians wouldn’t be delighted to see the milk and poultry marketing boards eliminated?…"

I’m sure a lot would, and it would likely make milk somewhat cheaper, and milk products like cheese substantially so. However, Trump has not offered to remove their own form of milk subsidies while demanding we remove ours – which makes it distinctly one-sided. Were he offering and asking a perfectly level playing field, it would be something worth discussing. Is it fair to open the markets when Canadian farmers don’t have the benefit of Uncle Sam chipping in a buck a gallon of subsidies?

“liza rosie commented 11 mins ago
Andrew wants to argue the fact that Americans who have been laid off for years are finally going back to work in well paying jobs, while Canadians are being put OUT of work by a complete shut down of our resource and manufacturing industries.”

Except that we’re not. US unemployment has been declining for years, 2017 was actually the worst year for job creation since 2010. Obama took unemployment from 10% to 5%, then Trump did from 5 to 4, yet somehow Obama was the worst jobs president ever and Trump the best. I suppose they’re called talking points, not facts, for a reason.

As for Canada, resource jobs bottomed out at 318,000 in April 2016, and have rebounded to 355,000 now, higher than October 2015 when he was elected (349,000). The peak was 375,000 in Sept. 2014, the decline set in a full year before Trudeau and probably has more to do with commodity prices than political regimes.

Manufacfturing is an interesting one, I had to keep extending the timeline in the table to find the maximum since the decline has been so protracted. It peaked in June 2004 at 2,317,000, (2117k in 02/06 when Harper was elected) declining steadily to around 1.7m which it reached in 2010 (1699k was the low reached in March 2010), and it’s still there. 1,714k in October 2015 when Trudeau was elected, 1737k now, essentially unchanged.

National numbers, from Statscan Table 14-10-0355-01. Categories, Forestry, fishing, mining, quarrying, oil and gas; and Manufacturing.