November 23, 2017

Libertarian leader offers “right” approach to marijuana legalization

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator

Is legalizing marijuana a contentious issue amongst right wingers? It can be. 

It seems conservative politicians are at odds with the general public. Scott Reid was the only CPC MP to vote for Liberal Bill C-45, the legislation that will grant access to pot for those who have reached the age of majority by next summer.

But independent polling shows that the majority of Canadians are in support of legalizing the drug.

I received a little pushback from fellow right-wingers on my story weighing the pros and cons of legislation. Does that mean we can’t be pro-legalization?

There are health concerns to think about and the legislation isn’t solid.

A number of studies highlight the damage marijuana use can have on the developing brain, for example, yet the Alberta NDP’s “no tolerance” rule means kids can have about 20 joints in their possession with no criminal charges despite their promise to keep pot out of the hands of kids.

These are issues that are worth discussing, so I invited the leader of the Libertarian Party to give us his thoughts on marijuana legalization and make his arguments from the right.

Watch as I discuss this with Tim Moen to hear what he has to say about medicinal marijuana, what he’s heard about this legislation from conservatives and how to make it more effective.

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commented 2017-11-26 07:21:48 -0500
The one very important point here is that Canada being a democratic country should have held a referendum to legalise pot or not . We most likely would not have this incompetent idiot as PM today . One hell of a price to pay for all you pot heads .
commented 2017-11-24 23:11:00 -0500
Society was hooked on cigarettes. Society is hooked on their phones.
Society will be hooked on weed.
Humans are habitual creatures prone to addiction. It will happen.
commented 2017-11-24 23:06:32 -0500
Jan Rogers, welcome back.
Sorry to hear your words were twisted in the past.
commented 2017-11-24 21:24:11 -0500
Justine Trudeau wanted to become Prime minister so bad he knew promising legalized pot would get a whole lot of votes, i am sure many voted for him just for this reason.
I am also sure that once legalized, many of those voters will be free to vote against him if they desire .
It would not surprise me if our baby boy leader somehow found a way to delay legalization and use it again next election as a carrot and promise as soon as he is reelected he will legalize it , as if anyone would believe him , already there are calls for him to delay legalization
His reason though does not make sense just like everything else he does
He said he is doing it to save the children , to stop them from obtaining weed, what is going to magically happen when it legalized all dealer are going to disappear ?
I think it will be easier for kids to get. 19 is the age limit, so we have 19 years olds with bags of weed.
Now you cannot tell me those ,well of course not all , but many will give a joint or two to the younger friends they have.As i see it , it will be easier for kids to obtain
If the Government charges high prices with high taxes , people will just keep getting it where they always got it forever, i am sure dealers would be happy to lower their prices to compete with the Government .
Look at the cigarette debacle , many years ago they raised the price of those so much that they lost a lot of tax money as people bought illegal cigs, in the end the Government was forced to drop the price
I would love to relate my personal experience regard pot and for me it is positive , BUT if there is one thing i have learned you do not do on the Rebel is relate personal experiences .
A couple of years ago i related a personal experience regarding a subject and was attacked mercilessly by a stupid feminist , twisting and contorting everything i said
I left the Rebel for a long time and never came back till recently
commented 2017-11-24 18:00:24 -0500
In spite of Libertarian ideals and no matter the pros and cons of marijuana – legal or otherwise, harmful or otherwise – know this…when ‘thegovernment’ gets its hands on it, they will bugger it up like everything else they get their hands on and bugger up…and rob you blind in the process of further shredding of your basic rights – while providing a lousy product and/or crappy service.
‘Thegovernment’ isn’t stupid and incompetent – they’re evil and greedy…the Liberals, the worst of the political criminal class…Justin’s Post-National Canada…a real hell-hole.
commented 2017-11-24 12:17:30 -0500
Stephen E, if your friend decides to stop the Fentanyl patch; it is very important that she is medically supervised during this process, and, a very gradual reduction in dosage is followed. (tapering)
Withdrawal management assistance is key.
commented 2017-11-24 12:05:40 -0500
HYACINTH commented: “It should not be legalized for leisure period, legitimate medical is already legal. You think we have problems with drunk drivers, alcoholic domestic violence, and under aged drinking? Go ahead and open that can of worms, can see the ramifications and countless lawsuits coming in the near future.”

This is it, very decisive comment.
Marijuana, or any other intoxicating drug, has never helped neither its consumer nor the society.
All the parties (& individuals) pushing for its legalization & acceptance in the society are our enemy, they want to weaken & destroy superior western society which is seen as a threat to their villainous activities. It’s a curse on human race. Period.
commented 2017-11-24 09:15:55 -0500
I don’t care if you want to smoke your brains out 24/7. But I don’t want you running machinery beside me when you’re stoned, and I don’t want you on the highways when you’re high.
commented 2017-11-24 07:41:37 -0500
I have a friend. She can’t get medical marijuana because all her doctors say no. So she is on Fentanyl patches for pain. Does this make sense?

I’m not too crazy about marijuana being legalised. There are a good many foreseeable and immediate problems with it. But be assured, once legal I will go out and buy the lady an ounce along with rolling paper and a bag of chips so she can ease her pain and take a few days without a patch.
commented 2017-11-24 07:05:03 -0500
“I look at the legalization of “pot” as another tax grab by the Lieberal government. The corrupt Lieberals don’t like competition so they are trying to squeeze out the criminals be legalizing the stuff.”

Paul you are correct on the aspect of the Leftards wanting to legalize it as a means of raising more taxes for their spending sprees, but just look at tobacco in Ontario for example. Every time Wynne and her Libtard party raise the tax on tobacco products the native bands and black market rejoice because it means more trade and profit for them. It has been proven the higher the tax the more illegal trade goes on. That actually caused them to significantly reduce the cost once, but then they digressed and started taxing it greatly as per norm for them. Each Libtard run province does this, they follow Ontario in all that they do. They cannot control the entire market no matter how much they want to.

This article is dated January 20, 2014 but well worth the read as this will no doubt become the trend with legalized pot too:
http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/why-canadas-governments-should-butt-out-of-taxes
commented 2017-11-24 06:32:47 -0500
I look at the legalization of “pot” as another tax grab by the Lieberal government. The corrupt Lieberals don’t like competition so they are trying to squeeze out the criminals be legalizing the stuff.

Secondly, one of The Clown Prince’s hobbies is “smokin dope” with his homies.
commented 2017-11-24 02:11:44 -0500
Good to see the Libertarian party do an interview on the rebel. The same can not be said about the conservative parties.
commented 2017-11-24 01:22:35 -0500
Anyone who wants to know how so called legalization will be under the libs plan needs to look at the Alcohol market in this country. Overly taxed and under government control, THAT IS NOT LEGALIZATION.
commented 2017-11-24 01:21:18 -0500
I am for legalization with personal responsibility for users, it is not harmless as i personally know, but many things are harmful. The libs cornering the market and taxing the hell out of it will not eliminate the black market in any way, i think it will enrich the black market as they will be able to raise their prices since the competition prices will be extreme. That being said i know how society is and there will be little personal responsibility shown. I also got tired of idiots saying alcohol is legal as a reason, Alcohol is extremely regulated and highly taxed.
commented 2017-11-24 01:10:51 -0500
I have to take issue with legalizing pot. I am all for De-criminalizing and all for medical therapy but totally against legalizing it for all. Dr Amen has done plenty of research and has brain scans to show the damage that marijuana causes in the brain and not to just developing brains either. Along with the multitude of problems with the growing and financing of said product is how to regulate being impaired or not being impaired. There is some talk about saliva testing….which brings a whole new dynamic into the picture of a “DNA” data base being collected as well which has huge Orwellian ramifications. Can anyone actually say that in a year this liberal government could have the specifics for growing, financing, distributing, marketing, regulating impairment, just to mention a few issues of bringing a product to market. I personally consider it the dumbing-down of our young people. It is much easier to control people when they are not completely focused. The liberals have not done one thing to benefit Canadians since 2015 and this is no different.
commented 2017-11-24 00:02:43 -0500
Many issues are worth discussing, as Holly Nicholas says. It is actually a challenge for the Rebel, where readers are supposed to be “for or against”. It is good for us Rebel readers to be challenged in this way. We have to think for ourselves. Am I for it or against it?
commented 2017-11-23 23:57:10 -0500
Terry Black:
Good video. Thanks.
commented 2017-11-23 22:12:22 -0500
It should not be legalized for leisure period, legitimate medical is already legal. You think we have problems with drunk drivers, alcoholic domestic violence, and under aged drinking? Go ahead and open that can of worms, can see the ramifications and countless lawsuits coming in the near future.
commented 2017-11-23 22:09:36 -0500
I’ve just started using marijuana prescribed by a doctor. There is a big difference between medical marijuana and smoking pot for pleasure.
Various strains are grown for various medical conditions and is available in either the bud (weed) form or oils. Each one is different, comes with a full explanation and the proper type, best suited for your medical condition, and is discussed with you before using it.
Pleasure pot, that you buy from the local ‘drug’ store is not anything like this.
I went into one of the new pot accessory stores (not yet selling weed, that I know of) and I couldn’t believe the number of young teens/20ers that were there. How many vaporizers or rolling papers does one need?
It’s a whole different world. Medical marijuana is not a simple “I’ll take one of those” decision, so I don’t think this discussion was actually considering the various uses.
If the CPC is against medical marijuana, then I don’t agree with them. But I do not agree weed should be legalized, unless it is for legitimate medical purposes.

Mara Lowe: You are exactly right. I have two types that I ordered to try as my first use of the medical stuff and one I could drive with (yet I still recognized any difference in my driving), but the other, absolutely NOT, and this is the one you smoke. Different strains, different reactions. These kids are hooked on weed and they don’t know what a day without it is like to compare it to normalcy and they are getting and will get bogus medical prescriptions without any legitimate medical conditions.

Big mistake legalizing it, unless for legitimate medical purposes.
commented 2017-11-23 20:48:23 -0500
I know, if you give a Liberal or an NDP person Cracker Jack Popcorn, they will probably find a way to destroy himself with it!

By the way Fred Albertan the fact is that Darwin is a failed loser and you would probably enjoy the youtube .com video clip called, “The Elite Don’t Want You To Know GOD IS REAL Here’s the Proof” on YouTube and you will understand better, what I have said here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5K-ikEsGjY
commented 2017-11-23 20:28:26 -0500
I agree with this interview 94% and I believe this is also the area where Conservatives’ have a weakness!

We need to get together on this and develop yes, a more sensible approach to the old, "No this is not Good for you attitude! We must make moral decisions’ for you about this!

Have the common sense to advise people to, " Let your moderation be known unto all men." Philippians 4:4-8

Because when we use the crack the whip Commie and Marxist method we end up with the Socialist system being brought in and we are under either Liberal or NDP Cultural Marxism!

Should we be able to do this and see our choices this way, I believe we will go a long way to disintegrating Leftist Ideology and the Karl Marx system of dictatorship handbook, rules the Liberals’ and NDP use!

I will put it straight to you, Canada cannot afford Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals’ winning another 4 year term – in fact I am not sure at all that we can survive the two long years’ that this corrupt party have left!

I am of the belief that everything in the Universe was created by our Creator and it is not a mere man’s job decide who and what is legal or of worth of God’s creation of plants and animals, or any of the Resources God has so graciously given us on earth and our Universe.

It is our duty to understand and study what God has made available and use the properties of God’s creations with wisdom and common sense! It is up to our wisdom to know the Good bad and ugly and act accordingly as God gave us free will, not for the purpose of another man to decide how we use that free will unless we use it against and or to harm our neighbors!

The fact is that there is nothing here on earth that when used to an exccess that isn’t harmful to us! That is the very reason God put common sense in your head!
It is not God’s will that one should be dictated to from the cradle to the Grave! The fact is, if you abuse God’s gifts’ you will harm yourself!

You can bet Dollars’ to Donuts’ that when PM Justin Trudeau reads’ this Interview in a Conservative members’ website, he is going to crap his pants’ involuntarily!
Remember the marijuana legalization was Trudeau’s Trump card in the 2015 election!
commented 2017-11-23 20:08:12 -0500
I saw somewhere that Colorado has major problems since pot was legalized – it was meant to free up resources from charges and court cases for minor possession. What has happened is that the number of pot related impaired driving charges has increased substantially tying up courts for, and pot impaired accident fatalities are out of the roof.
commented 2017-11-23 18:44:06 -0500
Good interview. My favourite type of asking a clear question, then listening without interruption.

I was particularly intrigued with Mr. Moen’s comment about ‘Freedom to sin’; I would like some expansion on that. It is certainly the concept in the New Testament, and even the Old. Basically be accountable and responsible.

Maybe I am finding a path to vote federally instead of being a stay at home.
commented 2017-11-23 16:38:29 -0500
Legalize everything. Let Darwin take over.