June 22, 2015

Lord Monckton: On climate change, this pope is making the same mistake as Galileo's persecutors

Rebel Staff

Lord Monckton was in Toronto as one of the man-made global warming skeptics (like Alex Epstein and Patrick Moore) attending IdeaCity 2015.

While this year he was present as an audience member and not an official speaker, Lord Monckton asked for five minutes to make the economic case against wind farms.

We also talked about the pope's troubling remarks about the environment and progress.

Lord Monckton made the brilliant observation that Pope Francis' hubris and anthropocentric perspective put him in the same camp as the Church authorities who silenced Galileo.

Lastly, Lord Monckton mentioned a recent article he coauthored for Science Bulletin, which has become the most-read in the journal's history.

In it, he explains why global warming computer models "run hot," making their data unreliable.

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commented 2015-06-24 00:21:43 -0400
MOIRA EGAN, thank you for sharing the link, “The Galileo Files”, wherein Thomas Woods debunks the common myth that the Galileo affair demonstrates that the Catholic church (and by extrapolation the church in general) is hostile to and impedes science. As he explained, what happened was “an unfortunate convergence of a variety of factors occurring at the same time”. Interesting at the end of his talks, his explanation that the church did not shut off debate, but , rather, “encouraged a culture of debate and discussion” in the universities. Far different today, particularly when it comes to the matter of evolution.
On examining the teaching of biology, specifically the teaching of evolution as found in Chapter 5 of the Alberta 20-30 Biology textbook, I found that it was permeated with “indoctrination”, an example of which was the authors of the textbook deploying the Galileo myth, telling the student:
“Francis Bacon (1561-1626) first proposed the scientific method, one way of finding out about the world around us. Bacon devised a method of testing a hypothesis using a controlled experiment. At about the same time, Galileo was using telescope to provide compelling evidence that Earth was not the centre of the universe – a finding that contradicted the teachings of the church at the time”. A gross over-simplification of the Galileo affair, seemingly pitting ‘science’ against ‘religion’, effectively serving to imprint in the student’s mind that so-called ‘science’ ultimately prevails over religion (“the teachings of the church”), cleverly painting the church as an enemy of science and impeding scientific progress.
commented 2015-06-23 19:07:39 -0400
Lord Moncton is an amazing man and I am a huge fan of his but he should know that Galileo did not provide proof of his theory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzohx5oim4w That links to Thomas Woods giving a good recap of what happened between the pope, other scientists and Galileo.
commented 2015-06-23 18:53:20 -0400
When an Italo – Argentine leftist like Frank refers to “filthy” it may be too much inside baseball for most of us.
He might have been referring to places like the Archdiocese of Cologne, which has more money than God, and the Vatican isn’t in any danger of being in contention with either one as a financial rival anytime soon.
commented 2015-06-23 12:09:30 -0400
I still can’t get my head around the “green” concept. hasn’t any of these nutbars ever heard of photosynthesis?, or the FACT that plants need CO2 to convert chlorophyll to oxygen? how in hell is “green”… anything… green? too bad the education system has forgone real science for this crap. if nothing else, change the brand from green to what they really want… grey.
commented 2015-06-23 09:52:51 -0400
ANNE SMYTH, you clearly love your pope and thus would have to admit to having a bias of your own. In your world, is he to be applauded regardless? When, the pope makes excursions into the political realm, which can have very serious consequences because of his influence on the opinion of a large swath of the human population, he is fair game to be criticized, especially when his views line up supporting the Marxist U.N.’s goal of establishing a global government, using the notion of global warming as the vehicle to achieve it.
commented 2015-06-23 09:32:57 -0400
The Pope is clearly out of his league and really quite confused. He is a deluded older gentleman who has the pulpit but not the wisdom. He should confine his remarks to issues of theological interest and leave the science ( the enemy of the church) to those qualified and honest enough to discuss them.
commented 2015-06-22 18:15:58 -0400
Anne, I have no bias at all against this Pope; my concern is his politics – which has everything to do with the latest controversy from my perspective. And I’m rather puzzled why you’d conclude that in my world," he’s damned, regardless". I simply concur with Moncton: Benedict is a born-and-bred activist of the left.
commented 2015-06-22 16:44:10 -0400
Jamie, you obviously have your own bias against the Pope for whatever reason, really nothing to do with the latest controversy from my perspective. In your world, I’m sure he’s damned regardless.
commented 2015-06-22 16:09:19 -0400
This whole “Climate Change” is not even a religion any more. It is more like a “Cult”. And a death cult at that given what it would bring to the population, except for the Al Gore’s, David Suzuki’s of course. Like Obama, the “little” people really don’t matter to these people. Only power and privilege. Suzuki even compared us to worms, or maggots or something! Disgusting, the whole lot of them!
commented 2015-06-22 14:29:29 -0400
commented 2015-06-22 11:44:50 -0400
“I admit the Pope’s tweets are confusing…” , indeed, ANNE SMYTH.
El papa rails against the some of the salesmen, but he’s obviously swallowed the oil. As one commenter noted over on the Canadian Landowner Alliance blog, Benedict is all about wealth distribution. And, if voluntary donations to The Lord just didn’t add up, he’d have no problem if the deficiency was pried out of our pockets by a (suitably green) Caesar.
commented 2015-06-22 11:01:14 -0400
Lord Monckton, the man Al Gore fears the most…
In any conversation where the words “computer model” are used to push a point, it is time to end that conversation and walk away…
Thank you Lord Monckton… The world needs more of you and less of their selective computer climate model crap…
commented 2015-06-22 10:25:27 -0400
I admit the Pope’s tweets are confusing, one wonders who is “tickling his ears” and if indeed the tweets are really his. However, I do believe the Pope’s concerns are aimed for the poor and when he talks about the “filth”, I think of places like Calcutta and third world countries, surely more could be done to share our technology. But also, there’s nothing wrong with wealth but a lot wrong with waste and we, in our carelessness, really do waste a lot of everything, money, food, even lives. We have become a throw away society by choice. So, while the Pope may be mistaken, (he is only infallible in matters of faith), there’s a lot of room for self examination to make the world an even better place.
commented 2015-06-22 10:08:29 -0400
Lord Monckton vs Lefty Clown Pope in a no holds barred debate.
I would really enjoy that. Not so much because (hopefully) Frank is just an
easily led gullible simpleton in these matters and not evil, but the humiliation
it would entail for the con artists behind the Globull Warming ripoff.
commented 2015-06-22 08:29:49 -0400
Monckton is absolutely correct- the Vatican has a history/tradition of supporting junk science and repressing scientific truths – from the flat earth dictums to the sun revolving around the earth – Catholic congregations have been served up a cornucopia of superstition masquerading as scientific fact for millennia. Obviously the globalists who bought this pope want that tradition to carry on seamlessly.
commented 2015-06-22 08:11:59 -0400
Climate changes, but the process to extract MOAR taxes by big fat blotus goobermint remains the same.

Corky Dion ran on his greenshaft for the liberals and took a beating. Now it’s called a “price on carbon”. Who the fk wants to hand over their personal cash to blotus goobermint so that blotus goobermint can invent crap and kickback to their friends and business alliances?

Global warming (still freezing my ass off this spring), climate change, or whatever these communist/socialist/marxist/liberal pigs want to rename it to, is just a mechanism for higher tax extraction from the private sector and into the gummamint hands.

And the UN wants a global tax – the kick backs to make this happen must be huge – it wasn’t enough that the communists/socialists/fascists/marxists in europe has to have two civil wars from 1914 to 1945 and slaughter hundreds of millions – now they want to rampage this tyrannical crap throughout the world (engineering poverty instead of concentration camps).