June 24, 2019

Maxime Bernier talks Renata Ford, censorship and Andrew Scheer

David MenziesMission Specialist

Max Bernier, leader of the People’s Party of Canada, dropped by Toronto recently to introduce 40 new PPC candidates for southern Ontario. 

We chatted with Bernier on everything from Andrew Scheer’s leadership to the announcement that Renata Ford, the widow of former Toronto mayor Rob Ford, will be the PPC’s candidate in Liberal-held Etobicoke North.

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commented 2019-06-27 12:31:46 -0400
People here are so extreme right, that even the slightest bit the other way – makes them a liberal and just like Trudeau. It’s ridiculous.
commented 2019-06-27 00:02:48 -0400
“Which is a round about way of saying they were not conservatives. They were liberals. In conservative clothing. Hence the term: CINO’s.”

They were, though. Scheer is definitely right-of-centre in the 2019 election; the “centre” lies somewhere in either the Liberal or the Green cauci, depending on where you place the parties relative to each other. Nobody ever promised “conservative” in absolute terms, and if you were expecting that, the flaw is in your expectations rather than their platform. The term can’t even be defined as the political spectrum has moved around for longer than universal suffrage has existed. You’d have to pick an arbitrary election and platform to define it, and that’s … arbitrary.

CINO is a completely meaningless epithet. It may mean you disagree with them on some part of their platform, even if it’s trivially arcane. No true conservative would ever support this! Oh, wait, it’s almost a textbook “No True Scotsman” fallacy.
commented 2019-06-26 23:18:45 -0400
Al Peterson,

I am talking about Canada. It is as wonderful a country now as it was for me in the 80’s.

It’s a process of rinse and repeat – one party wins, then the other party wins. Some good and bad come out on both sides, but nothing remotely that would make any rational or reasonable person to think – oh no, if Trudeau gets elected, Canada will be DOOOMED!!!!

Yes, welcome to The Rebel.
commented 2019-06-26 22:14:55 -0400
JOHN WICK commented 6 hours ago
Is Maxime Bernier a racist?
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Is anyone right of Stalin not a racist?
commented 2019-06-26 22:13:58 -0400
It’s an interesting hypothesis that you’ve tabled, Al. That Liberals are merely reformed conservatives? That’s the complete opposite to the usual dogma.
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That is not my “hypothesis”. My observation is that the conservatives are infiltrated by Leftists who show their true colours once elected. A few examples:

Joe Clark
Brian Mulroney
Kim Campbell
Andrew Scheer

A lot of our modern Conservatives are a product of the exact same upper-middle class suburban (often Ontario) upbringing as most urban Liberals.
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Which is a round about way of saying they were not conservatives. They were liberals. In conservative clothing. Hence the term: CINO’s.
commented 2019-06-26 22:06:10 -0400
JOHN WICK commented 6 hours ago
Al Peterson,

No, I am rational and reasonable. I don’t see any politician as the devil that will destroy Canada forever and have us bowing down to Islam.


That would be the definition of irrational and unreasonable given the 1400 unbroken years of muslim aggression, rape and murder. I can kind of see your point though. No politician has ever destroyed their country, have they?

Well, maybe one or two but it will never happen in Canuckistan because there is something magical about the land once you cross the border.

You hold unwaveringly to the 3 Pillars of Leftiedom.
commented 2019-06-26 21:14:44 -0400
The PPC has the best Platform/Policy that I have ever read in a long time.. Voting for the PPC is the right thing to do for all Canadian’s.. new and traditional.
commented 2019-06-26 16:56:47 -0400
What an ignorant article and question.
Kinsella has really gone off the deep end,that is for sure. He is a lousy racebaiter.
commented 2019-06-26 16:29:32 -0400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3jqKZrh7rA
Maxime Bernier joins Andrew Krystal to preview his 2019 Platform

Very good radio interview. Andrew Krystal mentions the controversy over the improper handling of ballots, duplicate votes and out and out tomfoolery over the final count of the conservative leadership election. Andrew Krystal says Bernier was robbed of that win..
commented 2019-06-26 16:27:24 -0400
Al Peterson,

No, I am rational and reasonable. I don’t see any politician as the devil that will destroy Canada forever and have us bowing down to Islam. But hey, you be you.
commented 2019-06-26 12:31:09 -0400
Very racebaiting, disingenuous comment from Andrew below.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Bernier’s platform covers what matters to Canadians.
Check it out.
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform

…by the way Canada, not only does Scheer want to meet and exceed emissions targets, he wants to use our money to help OTHER countries do the same thing. Not sell them technology, no. He wants to give them the technology and/or help them implement it with our money, through ‘incentives’ and ‘subsidies’. Who does that sound like? How can he call himself a conservative anymore?
commented 2019-06-26 11:34:34 -0400
“Has this ever happened? Has someone ever shown him/her/it self to be a milquetoast Liberal one day and then turned into a conservative the next? I can’t recall it. In reality tit is the reverse. "

It’s an interesting hypothesis that you’ve tabled, Al. That Liberals are merely reformed conservatives? That’s the complete opposite to the usual dogma.

I think the difference is trivial anyway. A lot of our modern Conservatives are a product of the exact same upper-middle class suburban (often Ontario) upbringing as most urban Liberals. The ones raised in Quebec or BC tend to be a bit further left than those from Ontario, but overall they vary so little because it’s all so unremarkably Canadian.

One of the reasons, I think, that Bernier has failed to gain much traction, is that the average Canadian has actually done pretty well under the status quo so there’s little incentive to rock the boat (we have the time to navel-gaze about a nickel a litre on gas, a commodity which fluctuates by 30 cents on its own), and that Bernier doesn’t offer a solution to actual problems that Canadians worry about, but rather wedge issues on the far fringe. The average Canadian (which is, after all, Joe Blow from Mississauga) does not own a gun and doesn’t have the urge to spend his days inventing new slurs to try on his neighbours who don’t conform to his white/cis/straight/Xtian agenda. .
commented 2019-06-26 10:51:10 -0400
AL Peterson – "Has this ever happened? Has someone ever shown him/her/it self to be a milquetoast Liberal one day and then turned into a conservative the next? I can’t recall it. In reality it is the reverse. "
Exactomungo.
commented 2019-06-26 10:48:01 -0400
Wick. I want others to voice why they want to leave or stay. I wanted to keep this thread going, but even I am sick of myself.

Dan, agreed!
commented 2019-06-26 10:43:01 -0400
JOHN WICK
Liza,

Have you considered that Scheer is just trying to be centrist, so he gets liberal votes, but once he is in power – he will be far more conservative?
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Has this ever happened? Has someone ever shown him/her/it self to be a milquetoast Liberal one day and then turned into a conservative the next? I can’t recall it. In reality tit is the reverse.

Ah, here comes the old “secret agenda” that the Leftists have been espousing since the days of Paul Martin. Yup, it’s going to show itself some day.
commented 2019-06-26 10:39:28 -0400
JOHN WICK commented 13 hours ago
Al Peterson,

No – I am using hyperbolic Rebel language.
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Oh, I see. I thought maybe logic and reason and evidence had finally got thorough the defences of your 3 Pillars. Sorry to see that you still support the stupidest national leader in world history. And his corruption and lying rates right up there, too.

So why do you want to believe and promulgate lies?
commented 2019-06-26 09:56:55 -0400
A lot of people might be surprised at how ravenously hungry many people are in Canada for some true leadership…the time is right for change…change from the same old, same old.
commented 2019-06-26 08:40:37 -0400
Liza,

Have you considered that Scheer is just trying to be centrist, so he gets liberal votes, but once he is in power – he will be far more conservative?
commented 2019-06-26 02:26:52 -0400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etoRI6w7FVk
David Haskell – People’s Party of Canada candidate – Cambridge

This short vid encapsulates why I think a lot of Canadians have walked away from the cpc to the ppc. Anyone who has walked away or new voters who can for the first time see a reason to vote, will be able to relate to what Haskell is saying.
He was courted by the cpc. When he started asking questions he knew it wasn’t a good fit. I think he is going to be great. I would love to see him in Ottawa representing the Peoples Party of Canada.
commented 2019-06-26 00:58:53 -0400
No. Too much flip flop. His word doesn’t mean much.
commented 2019-06-26 00:55:39 -0400
Liza,

So you literally see Trudeau and Scheer as the same person. Scheer will continue to ignore Alberta and the oil and gas industry like Trudeau does. There is nothing you like about him that makes him a better choice over Trudeau?
commented 2019-06-26 00:01:12 -0400
Not one iota. There is not one damn thing to lose. Not checking all my conservative boxes is an understatement.
commented 2019-06-25 23:50:42 -0400
liza Rosie,

I guess you need to ask yourself this question – if Trudeau is re-elected and Scheer was close, how angry will you be with yourself for not just voting the guy who has the best chance to replace him even if he doesn’t check all your conservative boxes?

Scheer has to be closer to what you want over what Trudeau offers.
commented 2019-06-25 21:48:54 -0400
We don’t all have the same opinions here Wick. Most are too nervous to vote for Bernier., some people actually believe Scheer is playing some kind of 3D chess or something, and as soon as he gets in will fulfil all conservatives dreams, or that he is not going to be quite as bad as Trudeau.

Justin is Satan, but Scheer is acting like a bloody wannabe. Some people are done, and some people are hanging on. Voting for either Justin or Scheer will have the very same outcome. At the very best Scheer’s timeline will mean the fall will be a bit more drawn out.

There is only one clear choice for the future of Canada and that is getting another party seeded, so that there might be something ‘sound’ to grab onto, because the status quo isn’t going to work for many any more. If people could see the potential, the PPC might do better than gaining a foothold. Many first time voters are coming aboard. You never know what will happen, but one thing for sure is this will be an election to throw all the cards in the air and see what new hand is dealt us, because this one and the one Scheer promises, stinks.
commented 2019-06-25 21:17:58 -0400
Al Peterson,

No – I am using hyperbolic Rebel language. All I read on here is how Canada can’t afford another 4 years of Trudeau, because he will destroy the country and we will be bowing down to our Islamic leaders, so if you all believe that to be true, why are you voting for the guy with no chance to replace Trudeau. I am trying to understand the logic there.
commented 2019-06-25 17:07:48 -0400
I see. Sorry to post a link you already had.
That is odd, maybe someone who was approved and then unapproved? That has happened before. If that is the reason, it could just be a sign that candidates are well vetted? I would be interested in what you find out.

One thing for sure though is that elections Canada needs some closer scrutiny, and some politicians and Senators are starting to be more vocal , like these two. Sen. Denise Batters


Verified account

@denisebatters
Jun 23
More Sen. Denise Batters Retweeted Senator Linda Frum
Here’s another riding with an extremely slim 2015 vote margin: Regina Lewvan, where the NDP candidate won this #CPC riding by only 132 votes.
LeadNow heavily targeted Regina Lewvan.
So yes, even in small amounts, fraud matters! Canadians must be confident in election results.Sen. Denise Batters added,
Senator Linda Frum
Verified account

@LindaFrum
8 ridings decided fewer than 300 votes in 2015: 61 Elmwood-Transcona; 82 Desnethé-Missinippi; 85 Barrie-Springwater; 92 Edmonton Mill Woods; 225 Hastings-Lennox; 251 Kitchener-Conestoga; 272 Montmagny-L’Islet; 282 Kootenay-Columbia. •Even in small amounts — fraud matters• …
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commented 2019-06-25 16:31:50 -0400
LIZA ROSIE commented 1 hour ago
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/our_candidates
Dan, this page is a list of candidates so far, There are still a few ridings that are in the process of vetting. There are 271 confirmed so far.
Stay tuned.
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Thanks Liza, I had already seen that site, among others, and it lists no candidate for my electoral district, and yet another site lists a woman with an Asian name I can’t recall…or find any info on!
I’m waiting for a call back from the PPC.

My point was: there are an awful lot of ‘irregularities’, from all sides, and worse going on, and that alone should halt this election…and it isn’t!
commented 2019-06-25 14:42:04 -0400
The PPC has already got more candidates (271) in place than the Greens at only 106.