July 30, 2015

Media, bureaucrats want Harper to "tone down" terrorism rhetoric -- but they're not the ones facing voters this fall

Brian LilleyArchive

Whether you like the party or not, like the leader or not, in a representative democracy the elected officials call the shots, not unelected bureaucrats.

Yet, time and again we're presented with stories from the media party that suggest that Conservatives "fail" to listen to "experts" in the bureaucracy when they advise Ministers to "tone down" the rhetoric on Jihadists. Politicians are the ones who will be judged at election time so they should have the final say on these matters, whether the media party agrees or not.


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commented 2015-08-01 13:41:28 -0400
Brian Kelly said: “look no further than Hitler, his party was a socialist party but if you talk to the MSM they say Hitler’s party was one of conservative values, wow, talk about changing the facts to make sure it fits within their rose colored world.” Information about the Nazi party is readily and easily available. The Socialist Media along with Trudope and Tommie the Commie are being wilfully ignorant and misleading! They are counting on a gullible public to lap up all the lies without questioning the facts. Fact: Nazi according to Wikpedia = Nationalsozialismus. No “conservative” in that. One can see socialism though!
commented 2015-08-01 13:38:35 -0400
Thanks Brian, that was bang on.
commented 2015-08-01 11:37:08 -0400
Naive left wingers calling it " Rhetoric". The following are absolute truths,
-They have declared a religious war on us, they execute people for their religious beliefs, they ask Muslims all over the world to to commit atrocities on us in the name of their religion.
What do you think Jihad means to these terrorists? If anybody has to tone down their rhetoric, it is the left wing media.
commented 2015-08-01 08:02:51 -0400
CHARLES you sound like a very nice caring person, someone who would give anyone a chance, but don’t waste your breath on idiots.
We all like Ezra and Brian, and the Rebel, that why we are here and why it is so successful, people backed up their loyalty with hard earned money because we believe in what the rebel stands for.
That being said i guess we can’t help idiots coming on here hiding behind a keyboard, sniping at us, must have been so frustrating for them when they had to watch sun news and they could ’nt talk back, i can see them now yelling at Ezra on television, of course they are in their glory now they can do their sniping on here.
They do not want to debate, just act like idiots
I am a nice person but i have no patience for people who continually go to places they do not agree with and constantly snipe at everyone who is trying to have intelligent conversations, yes everyone has a right to voice their opinions like you want, in a sensible debate , but these idiots do not want that, they just want to shit disturb.
I for one cannot say i have disagreed with anything Ezra has said and also Brian, i guess , my thinking is in line with how they think.
Thats why most are here,
commented 2015-07-31 15:09:45 -0400
Hello Terry and Jimmy,
I don’t understand 100%, why you two are so hard on the Rebel Media Group?
If you believe in free speech and opinions. Then why are you attacking every person that is on this site?
Terry you are wrong! (Here my free speech coming out). There is a large following on this site. Yes! You are correct, they are Conservative minded.
But is that a bad thing?
You and Jimmy have such a problem with this site… Well why don’t you both stop coming to the site, then maybe you won’t get so upset.
Most of the people I have noticed that are on this site, including myself. Are venting their frustrations and having a good debate.
YES, you are correct in saying that we are following and listening to Ezra and Brian. But we are still humans and we can decide if we agree or don’t agree. All I see from you and Jimmy is consent verbal abuse to anyone that has a different view. Well I thought that is what Canada has built it’s self on! A different view has created a very strong country and a proud one. I see things from Jimmy that just makes me mad.. But I do try to communicate on a respectful level. I say thing like Sorry, or I agree with that statement. I even have discussions with other Crazy Righties like me.

We all can’t agree with everything.
But all I see from you two, is abuse, bashing, calling people idiots, saying they have no IQ because they believe in something you don’t.
Then you accuse the people on this site, that we are narrow minded, and think from are asses.
Not once has anyone just up and attacked you first. You always attack someone, and then it gets the ball rolling everyone starts in the conversation. Then the abuse just keeps building.
You two really need to stop and look in the mirror, before you keep bashing people.
Just like this post.
I’m not bashing you… I’m just trying to figure you two out?
Are you both attention seekers or what?
Or are you two truly leftist and will fight for the left?

What ever it is. I really hope to have a good debate with you in the future. I also promise not to attack your IQ or be verbal against you. I will defend myself if you start on me verbally.
Have a great day and see you on other posts.
God Bless Canada….
commented 2015-07-31 14:41:05 -0400
“in a representative democracy the elected officials call the shots, not unelected bureaucrats.” That is the way it should be, however, should one look at the pronouncements coming from various bureaucracies that appears to not be the case. The RCMP being one example.
commented 2015-07-31 14:06:04 -0400
alex salmon is proof positive that socialists are the first to turn to fascism.
commented 2015-07-31 12:55:36 -0400
Brian, You are spot on.

This is too the MSM of this screwed up country. Go Fuck your self
commented 2015-07-31 12:40:16 -0400
Fact: Terrorism in today’s world is being committed by Muslims in the name of Islam. They have said so themselves. The civil service is infected with left wing nutjobs put there by Lieberal Gov’ts to frustrate any Gov’t not Lieberal or left wing.
commented 2015-07-31 10:36:09 -0400
Funny to see the MSM patterns – MSM runs their Conservative attack ads written as columns – usually 1-2 of these per day for the last four years.

And then the MSM also runs puff pieces for pig troodo and since pig troodo is failing bad, are now sucking off pig n-cair.

It is all out war on Harper and the Conservatives – their opponents: MSM, liberals, ndp, activists, unions.

LMFAO!!! And the MSM, liberals, ndp, activists, unions are getting their as*es kicked!!! The MAJORITY of Canadian voters have figured out what utter douche bags the MSM, liberals, ndp, activists, unions really are.
commented 2015-07-31 10:26:05 -0400
If politicians acquiesce with the “non-elected” bureaucrats and “tone” down their rhetoric, exactly HOW are the Canadian people going to know how serious the problem with “terrorists” actually is? We already see what the main stream media are doing in their coverage of news – it is all about “defeating Harper”! News has now become political commentary for many main stream “on-air” news anchors such as those on CTV, CBC, and the Global!
News anchors should present the FACTS! Leave the opinion and analysis to others! Thank you, Brian, for telling it as it is! The Rebel is growing, growing, growing!
commented 2015-07-31 10:02:08 -0400
Brian Kelly said,

“The majority of the population needs to get to the polling booths so we can out number these fanatics, these socialists are the minority but yet they get the majority voice because they vote, want it stopped, then get out and vote and get these fanatics locked back up in the funny farm.”

Worth repeating.
commented 2015-07-31 09:41:10 -0400
The left want bureaucracies to be in control of everything but only with an extreme left agenda and no oversight but maybe some input from unions
commented 2015-07-31 09:26:46 -0400
Democracy has been slipping backwards for sometime now due to the socialist movement. Socialists do not unite the population but actually destroy it, look no further than Hitler, his party was a socialist party but if you talk to the MSM they say Hitler’s party was one of conservative values, wow, talk about changing the facts to make sure it fits within their rose colored world. Socialists bury their heads in the sand and believe that all in this world is good, and if the facts go against their ideals then they just ignore the facts and create their own so it works within their agenda. What’s funny is they call for equality, but what will happen when they bury their heads and the jihadists take over, no more openly gays, woman will be walking in public completely covered and the killings will be numerous, all in the name of Allah. But yet if a Christian makes a comment then watch these same people come out in full force to shame them for believing in God. The majority of the population needs to get to the polling booths so we can out number these fanatics, these socialists are the minority but yet they get the majority voice because they vote, want it stopped, then get out and vote and get these fanatics locked back up in the funny farm.
commented 2015-07-31 09:15:57 -0400
FRASER MCBURNEY, go, bloc, go!
commented 2015-07-31 09:05:30 -0400
Could it be they want the Ministers to “tone down” the rhetoric on Jihadists simply because the Loonie left Liberals and NDP are soft on Terrorism ?

These are the types of ‘invented’ stories made by the MSM to continue to bash the Conservatives. The only problem is, MOST of the people of Canada agree with Harper. I certainly do.
commented 2015-07-31 06:29:53 -0400
The bureaucratic attitude that Glenn and Joan describe has been around for a long time – that elected representatives come and go but “we” are always here. At one time it was relatively benign as senior bureaucrats understood that their role was to implement and run the programs that the elected reps legislated. To a much lesser degree, the bureaucrats at times served as sounding boards for the elected reps, advised on the pros and cons of certain initiatives or implementation strategies but their power was limited and they were careful not to overstep the boundaries of their jobs.

Then the bureaucracy began to grow and senior bureaucrats began to multiply like rabbits. They figured out the vulnerabilities of the politicians – that they were preoccuppied with spinning their public image and that they neither knew nor cared what went on in the bureaucracy as long as their deputy ministers and other senior free riders made them look good. The bureaucrats used this to their advantage. Making the Honourable Minister of such and such look good required more funding, more staff, more expertise, more resources of every kind. The bureaucrats built vast empires, hiring more and more senior level functionaries in their own image and creating behemoth-sized “public service” organizations that really just served their own interests.

Keeping their political masters (who really were no longer masters of anything now that the tail was wagging the dog) from screwing up a great gig became one of their top priorities. Politicians who aren’t playing ball with the bureaucrats at the top of these publicly funded empires can expect blow back. Accusing them of being insensitive and unwilling to take advice, and similar “failings” is a way in which the senior layer of the bureaucracy achieves this aim.
commented 2015-07-31 06:08:04 -0400
If the media and the bureaucrats want Harper to “tone down” the terrorism rhetoric, then Harper needs to increase the volume of his “rhetoric”. Because there is one thing that seems to be a constant in our left leaning Canadian society, that any morally proper position taken by anyone, especially the PM, will be opposed vehemently by the left.

By and large the leftists (progressives as they call themselves) have lost their moral compass.
commented 2015-07-30 23:36:26 -0400
I wonder if the RCMP should stick to doing their jobs, instead of getting involved in the political aspect of things. That that seems to be the tact now, interfering and sticking their noses into areas none of their concern. Their job is to advise parliament on security threats, not trying to bully them into how to respond. Prime example of what’s wrong when it comes to firearms legislation and law abiding citizens.
commented 2015-07-30 23:24:13 -0400
As soon as a minister is appointed, he/she should just have a brief meeting with the staff. Only one statement is required. “My way or the highway”.
commented 2015-07-30 22:54:59 -0400
Well said Brian. PM Harper Is telling it like it is, this is the only way people will understand the dangers we face. We have idiots like the Lib’s And Dems, fighting over the Islamic Vote, just to gain power, ready to destroy Canada, the Comic Book Media helping them. Why is it that people cannot understand, A Vote for these Left Wing Morons is a Vote for the ‘Beginning of the End’ of Canada.

One thing, we should be clear on, Jihads and Terrorist’s are all Islamic Muslims. Our war is with the Political Dogma of Islam, the terrorists are just a part of Islam. Let us call a Spade a Spade.

A vote for the NDP or the Liberals is a vote for Sharia Law.
commented 2015-07-30 22:14:34 -0400
How about term limits for bureaucrats. Possible?
commented 2015-07-30 21:07:24 -0400
I was at Veteran’s Affairs when a deputy minister got thrown under the bus for saying to the minister…“I run the department…you just make speeches” ….

It was a never before witnessed precedent setting event….that shocked ALL Liberal Party appointees into the new post Harper reality……go ahead and punish me for saying that.
commented 2015-07-30 21:02:59 -0400
You are right, Brian. Good one.

Rick Cathrae, a federal bureaucrat, told me that people like me, just like our elected government, “come and go” but that he and his colleagues “have been here for thirty years”.

Some bureaucrats think they run the government because elected officials come and go. That attitude needs correcting. (Send them to Millhaven.)

My MP said our elected officials struggle with bureaucracy because so many bureaucrats think labour interests (the Liberal Party of Canada/NDP) are the natural rulers of Canadian society, not freely elected representatives of a free people.

commented 2015-07-30 20:56:21 -0400
Being 2 months or so from a federal election Lets have a little contest and fun REBELS with each losers contributing $$$ to Ezra Defence Fund say $10 each
NOVA SCOTIA………………..….11 SEATS = 4 LIB = 2 = NDP = 5 CON
NEW BURNSWICK……………..10 SEATS = 5 = LIB = 3 NDP – 2 CON
QUEBEC……………………………78 SEATS = 8 BLOC = 7 LIB = 4 CON = 59 NDP
ONTARIO………………………..121 SEATS = 66 CON = 43 NDP = 12 LIB
MANITOBA ………………………14 SEATS =11 CON = 2 NDP = 1 LIB
ALBERTA……………………..……..34 SEATS = 32 CON = 2 NDP
YUKON………………………………1 SEAT = 1 CON
NUNUVAT…………………………..1 SEAT = 1 CON
N.D.P. =132
BLOC = 8