May 11, 2018

Media fails to call out bigotry of Edmonton March for Life counter-protesters

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

 

I just came back from the annual March for Life in Edmonton.

It takes place every year in May in cities all across Canada and is the largest pro-life demonstration you’ve probably never heard about.

The mainstream media doesn’t give equal amounts of coverage to the peaceful pro-life, pro-family March for Life as they do to the vulgar, profane and sometimes violent Women’s March despite similar sizes.

Rain and cold weather aside, 3,000 Albertans turned up on the steps of the legislature to let the political establishment know that it’s still okay to be pro-life.

Watch as I share the reactions of the pro-life movement to Rachel Notley's free speech crackdowns, and to hear why I couldn't be happier that six pro-choice science fiction fans dressed as handmaidens from the Handmaid's Tale showed up to counter-protest.

What I saw at the March for Life was a peaceful, tolerant movement that’s being lied about by their own government, and I'm so glad I was there to tell the other side of the story.

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commented 2018-05-17 00:11:16 -0400
Did you ever notice that Mr-Babies-Are-Parasites spouts off all manner of statistics but never supplies the sources for them? Could it be because he made them up? Ya think?

Also won’t watch videos for the obvious reason that the facts would require a paradigm shift to deal with reality.
commented 2018-05-16 17:46:51 -0400
You aren’t paying attention Andrew.

So spare me your shock when PP is finally indicted.

Bodged? I have no idea what you are talking about. 10 very damning undercover videos embedded at the end of the article.
commented 2018-05-15 23:27:50 -0400
I trust Snopes a whole hell of a lot better than some ax-grinder’s smear.

He’s bodged together ten videos?

You know what I would trust? Actual legal evidence. If something illegal were actually occurring, they’d be charged with it. That they’re not, tells us law enforcement is also skeptical, which is good enough for me.
commented 2018-05-15 20:21:30 -0400
There are 10 videos to expose PP and their quest to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Which is illegal by the way.

I was queasy viewing these videos, only ghouls wouldn’t have a problem!
commented 2018-05-15 20:17:35 -0400
I don’t trust Snopes….better luck next time ghoul!

This thread is getting buried, and, you really want to stay oblivious…so, may you get numerous painful uterine cramps in support of women who don’t know what they are signing up for at PP.
commented 2018-05-15 18:56:06 -0400
If someone is doing something illegal, then you stop the illegal activity directly. A blanket ban is a very blunt tool and punished many for the sins of the few.

That being said, this might be worth a read, and throws some sketpicism over the video:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pp-baby-parts-sale/
commented 2018-05-15 17:14:57 -0400
In addition to being clueless, IMO you are a ghoul!
commented 2018-05-15 16:42:23 -0400
I don’t care what you prefer. Your lame reasoning for not watching the videos is cringe worthy.
These videos are a from an undercover investigations into the illegal sale of baby parts….stop protecting this macabre industry and pretending there is nothing wrong.

Holy f**k you are clueless!
commented 2018-05-15 09:53:43 -0400
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 12 hours ago
You obviously didn’t watch the embedded videos in the link I provided…there is a Canadian connection to PP – guess you missed it too.

Weasel words are your specialty. I quoted from the article…ooops you missed that too I see.

Take your leftist goggles off for a few weeks Andrew, there is a whole world out there a misanthrope has a tendency to ignore."

I don’t generally watch videos as a matter of principle. The information content is very low per minute, and I’m interested in the facts, not being spoonfed what someone else things is an important subset of. I’d rather spend 30 seconds finding data than listening to some random Youtube commentor opine for ten minutes.

Your PP link is weak. It’s a huge leap of logic to go from “loosely affiliated to PP” to “actively selling aborted tissue”, and the guilt-by-association just doesn’t cut it for me.

I’m still waiting for the information on “failed abortions”, and I’d prefer a spreadsheet or some sort of reasonable statistical source to a video please.
commented 2018-05-14 22:09:54 -0400
The videos confirm the abortion industry is selling baby parts, making profits and adjusting their procedures depending on what is being ordered on any given day. Sick!
Do they tell the women what they are up to? Hell no!
commented 2018-05-14 22:07:15 -0400
A doctor was negotiating what she will receive from the “woman’s donated tissue” with a procurer….she actually said she wants a Lamborgini.
commented 2018-05-14 22:05:38 -0400
You obviously didn’t watch the embedded videos in the link I provided…there is a Canadian connection to PP – guess you missed it too.

Weasel words are your specialty. I quoted from the article…ooops you missed that too I see.

Take your leftist goggles off for a few weeks Andrew, there is a whole world out there a misanthrope has a tendency to ignore.
commented 2018-05-14 21:23:32 -0400
I don’t think it is. And it’s not “willful blindness” that I don’t buy into conspiracies without a shred of supporting evidence. That’s blame shifting, by the way. It’s not your fault for failing to support an argument, it’s mine for not just blindly believing.

Your quotes feature terms like “most likely”, weasel words to hide the fact that it’s idle speculation.

Donating the cells to research is a different matter. For one thing, “donate” is not “sell”, and second, it puts otherwise wasted material to good use – human cells are the only good way to test for medical efficacy, and existing, cancer-derived lines are not representative of normal physiology.
commented 2018-05-14 10:48:42 -0400
Article titled “Undercover Sting Exposes Abortion Industry Organ Procurement” plus 10 very disturbing videos at the end of the article. These people in the abortion industry are sick Andrew! If you don’t think this is happening in Canada, you are willfully blind. Make no mistake, this will be exposed completely, however, I don’t have a timeline for when it will happen.

Portion copied and pasted from article titled above:
“According to Life Canada Planned Parenthood Canada, operates under the conglomerate of Action Canada. Action Canada was formed in 2014 when they joined forces with Canadians for Choice (CFC), the Canadian Federation for Sexual Health (CFSH), formerly Canada’s Planned Parenthood, and Action Canada for Population and Development (ACPD).”

“Action Canada’s website says their goals are to act both nationally and internationally to increase education and access to “to quality sexual and reproductive health information and services.” The term “reproductive health” has become synonymous with “abortion rights” for those working through the international arena.
As far as we know, the Canadian PP affiliates do not perform abortions but they do refer for abortion. Regardless of whether they perform abortions or not, they are by all accounts under PPFA and are likely to be affected by this scandal.”

“Not surprisingly, Action Canada has not condemned what their sister affiliates have been caught doing since this story broke.”

“Not everyone involved in the abortion industry in Canada remains silent on this issue, however. Instead of denouncing or distancing themselves from this practice, some groups are all too happy to support and advance this heinous practice.”
“The national political pro-choice group, Abortion Rights Coalition (CARC) stated on its Facebook Page, “If you ever need an abortion and would like to donate your fetal tissue towards research, here’s how,” linking to an American site, Bustle, which argues that donated fetal tissue makes possible many beneficial medical discoveries..” CARC further stated, “Canadian clinics do this too. Everything is handled under strict regulations and ethical guidelines.”

http://cambridgerighttolife.ca/undercover-sting-exposes-abortion-industry-organ-procurement/
commented 2018-05-13 22:03:43 -0400
“Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 1 hour ago
You don’t know squat about failed abortions….stop pretending this goes back to alley abortions with coat hangers or natural miscarriages which didn’t complete.

Sick ideology Andrew! " I don’t think you do, either. If you did, you’d allude to your wealth of knowledge rather than trying to make this my fault. How do you define “failed abortions”, and how often do they really occur? Remember, “partial birth” isn’t a “failed abortion”, nor is it a category that’s actually tracked by anybody – as I said the term is misleadingly used and doesn’t mean what you think it does, and as far as I can tell, is about as specific as you can get. I’m open to being shown the actual data, though, if it exists. Particularly Canadian.

“Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 2 hours ago
Silly Andrew, cells on your toothbrush didn’t have a beating heart. I think you fail to realize what abortionists are doing with human babies they murder.
Research what Planned Parenthood are doing to pad their pockets.”

“beating heart” is a play to emotions. Means very little – the heart is nothing more than a bit of muscle with its own timer, which is why “beating heart cadavers”, brain dead individuals being kept “alive” solely for organ donation, aren’t considered alive in anything but the most technical sense. Worms have them too.

Some goes towards medical research. Primary cells are incredibly helpful at helping us develop medication. Most is simply cremated along other medical waste.

Does Planned Parenthood even operate in Canada? I can’t find anything demonstrating that they do. I reiterate, selling tissue is illegal in Canada.
commented 2018-05-13 20:28:33 -0400
You don’t know squat about failed abortions….stop pretending this goes back to alley abortions with coat hangers or natural miscarriages which didn’t complete.

Sick ideology Andrew!
commented 2018-05-13 20:18:37 -0400
Silly Andrew, cells on your toothbrush didn’t have a beating heart. I think you fail to realize what abortionists are doing with human babies they murder.
Research what Planned Parenthood are doing to pad their pockets.
commented 2018-05-13 14:17:28 -0400
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 1 hour ago
So in other words, during the killing; the mother is told her baby is a clump of cells or fetus. Afterward, abortionists advertise and sell “human tissue” “human organs” “human skull”
Interestingly, the word human is only attributed upon death by abortionists. I find this horribly macabre. "

Oh, it’s human tissue, but it does not itself have personhood, any more than say the shed cells accumulating on your toothbrush do, or, say, a liver being used for transplantation. Sales of tissues are illegal in Canada. Finding it macabre is emotion, not logic.

“You don’t even acknowledge failed abortions, babies murdered outside the womb. The language of pro-abortion ideologues is quite intentional, softening the language is keeps the horror of murder out of the limelight.

So, why do abortionists sell “human tissue” if your analogy is used? "

Human tissue does not a human make, any more than a steak is a cow.

“Failed abortions”, although they’ve probably occurred (although I would imagine moreso when it was illegal and happened in uncontrolled situations) aren’t a common thing. Late term abortions are themselves very uncommon – 75% happen before 12 weeks, and only 2% after 20 weeks most of which occur in extenuating circumstances, so it’s generally not viable anyway.

This seems to be based upon “partial birth abortions”, itself a misleadingly named phenomenon that actually encompasses all late-term procedures involving the removal of fetal tissue. The majority are cleaning up after late term miscarriages, where it was already dead although a few cases of viable fetuses being aborted are known, usually in the situation of maternal jeopardy.
commented 2018-05-13 13:04:30 -0400
So in other words, during the killing; the mother is told her baby is a clump of cells or fetus. Afterward, abortionists advertise and sell “human tissue” “human organs” “human skull”
Interestingly, the word human is only attributed upon death by abortionists. I find this horribly macabre.
commented 2018-05-13 12:59:10 -0400
Andrew, I said “someone,” certainly not you.
“someone should should sit down with women who have had multiple abortions and ask them why they are taking it so lightly. Could it have something do with the leftist subterfuge of calling a human baby a clump of cells?!”

You don’t even acknowledge failed abortions, babies murdered outside the womb. The language of pro-abortion ideologues is quite intentional, softening the language is keeps the horror of murder out of the limelight.

So, why do abortionists sell “human tissue” if your analogy is used?
commented 2018-05-13 12:49:03 -0400
Why would I do that? It’s their life, I have no right to judge them on their choices.

Have you ever wondered why the shock posters don’t work? People know fully well what it is.

It IS a clump of cells, especially early on (what a beautiful gastrula you’ve got). Developmentally, human embryogenesis is identical to that of any other amniote, and you can go surprisingly late (8-10 weeks) where it’s difficult to tell a human fetus from that of another higher mammal, say, a dog (~4 weeks, if you want to find pictures – it’s actually kinda cool. The only real giveaway is the knees, probably not what you’d expect). The divergence between humans and other closely related primates, like chimps, is even later. Becoming “human” is something that happens after the majority of abortions occur, prior to that the potential exists, but has not yet occurred.
commented 2018-05-13 08:14:36 -0400
Andrew, I guess someone should should sit down with women who have had multiple abortions and ask them why they are taking it so lightly. Could it have something do with the leftist subterfuge of calling a human baby a clump of cells?!
commented 2018-05-12 20:48:06 -0400
“Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 8 hours ago
Andrew, so let’s call them “Pro-Death for those who choose it”. I think that’s more honest. "

If you wish. Most women who get one don’t take it lightly.

“Drew Wakariuk commented 3 hours ago
Andrew pro choicers seem to be happy stopping people from CHOOSING to protest abortion clinics. SO MUCH FOR FREE CHOICE OR BODILY AUTONOMY LMAO! "

You’re free to protest, but not to harass or target specific individuals.

“Think of who is arriving en masse into Canada….as their numbers continue to grow so will their resolve to see this openly debated.”

Again, that crosses the line back into removing constitutional rights, which won’t happen.

“David White commented 3 hours ago
Jack Carter….don’t be so smuggly sure, just like the left insists on settled science concerning climate, which it most assuredly is NOT, the debate may NOT be settled on abortion either. There most certainly could be a time where sanity enters the picture again and this abomination is revisited…maybe in the not too distant future. "
If you wish to think so, go ahead. It’s not going anywhere. The SCOC decision is pretty clear – it’s unconstitutional for the government to take away the mother’s security-of-person.

Politically, Canada’s 77% pro-choice, 12% pro-life. It’s a political non-starter.
https://globalnews.ca/news/3290006/support-for-abortion-rights-strong-in-canada-but-poll-shows-we-are-middle-of-the-pack-globally/

“A disgruntled man is so upset with his pregnant partner he decides to shoot and kill her. Why is he charged with a double homicide? "
He isn’t. Some American states do that, but not all, and it’s not done in Canada. The conservatives have apparently tried a few times, but never succeeded.
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-killing-reignites-emotional-debate-can-an-unborn-fetus-be-a-murder-victim
commented 2018-05-12 18:00:36 -0400
Jack Carter….don’t be so smuggly sure, just like the left insists on settled science concerning climate, which it most assuredly is NOT, the debate may NOT be settled on abortion either. There most certainly could be a time where sanity enters the picture again and this abomination is revisited…maybe in the not too distant future.

Space Moose…just exactly what the hell are you? One minute you make a somewhat conservative response to something…the next minute you seem to be shilling for the liberals or ndp. I have a question for the leftard side of your brain. You insist abortion is not murder and there can’t be a murder until a child is actually born. This theory is pushed to the MAX by the left…the same left push this idea. A disgruntled man is so upset with his pregnant partner he decides to shoot and kill her. Why is he charged with a double homicide?
commented 2018-05-12 17:49:45 -0400
Andrew if a woman doe snot want a man in a dress sharing the bathroom with her is her choice not valid??
commented 2018-05-12 17:48:31 -0400
Andrew pro choicers seem to be happy stopping people from CHOOSING to protest abortion clinics. SO MUCH FOR FREE CHOICE OR BODILY AUTONOMY LMAO!
commented 2018-05-12 17:44:27 -0400
I EXPECT NO REAL ANSWER FROM EITHER OF YOU ON THE LINK.
commented 2018-05-12 17:42:53 -0400
Andrew Stephenson if they were pro choice then they would not force men to pay for a child they do not want and they would pay for the abortion themselves. And they would want the Burka to be a choice. They are pro abortion , nothing else.
commented 2018-05-12 17:41:29 -0400
Jack Carter why are you progressives so afraid of change?? LMAO! And when was it settled and who decided it was?