May 18, 2018

Michelle Stirling: Activists wage "a green trade war against Canada"

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

On this week's episode of The Gunn Show, Michelle Stirling from Friends of Science joined me to discuss the eco-extremists pressuring banks to divest from fossil fuel companies. 

These extremists are usually members of foreign-funded groups, like the Dutch-based BankTrack whose mandate is to "harras the heck out of banks"  investing in oil and gas companies.

They hate the Alberta oil sands, they hate coal, and now they've moved onto pressuring insurance companies to boycott oil and gas.

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commented 2018-05-21 04:09:01 -0400
Spinning yet again “Ms. Stephenson”?… My rebuttal was against your claim that “BC ships a lot of coal, but very little of it is mined in the province.”… B.S.!… Wether “metallurgical” or “home heating”, coal shipments are healthy and growing and ongoing AND mined right here in B.C, hence the list I provided…As to what the end use is in overseas markets is, you are still just farting in the wind… India and China use the coal as they see fit and what the current priorities are… Including using it to generate hydro power…
commented 2018-05-19 13:23:15 -0400
Andy,

That’s mostly metallurgical coal, not to fire power plants. Different kettle of fish.

If you really want to look into it, those BC coal exports are what are firing China’s heavily subsidized steelmills, and their dumping, which has put thousands of Canadians out of work.
commented 2018-05-19 03:27:05 -0400
Ms. Stephenson.. I just love the way you “mine” bullshit hoping something, anything, sticks to the wall… Re “decreasing” coal exports from B.C.. you might want to try to “spin” this reality..
Fording River, Elkford – Teck. …
Elkview, Sparwood – Teck. …
Highland Valley Copper, Logan Lake – Teck. …
Greenhills, Elkford – Teck. …
Line Creek, Sparwood – Teck. …
Coal Mountain, Sparwood – Teck. …
Wolverine/Perry Creek, Tumbler Ridge – Walter Energy.
All are “up” and enjoying healthy exports…
commented 2018-05-19 00:45:10 -0400
Andrew, nice to see you back, or just not using your Jimmy Reese name. So, where is the proof of your claim to hold a PhD? Still waiting you lying fraud.
By the way, your wind power can’t power all the fans used by people who can’t afford air conditioning, and that’s a fact. Let alone power industrial operations, the ones that keep you living in comfort. Go live in a cave you hypocrite.
commented 2018-05-19 00:38:15 -0400
Andrew did you miss the part where it says wind cannot be directly compared as it is DEPENDENT on weather?
commented 2018-05-19 00:36:32 -0400
Andrew that only says they are set to receive less after a certain period. how is that cheaper?? And they are horribly inefficient and you know it. And being the cheapest source of NEW POWER does not make it a replacement or any better. TRY AGAIN!
commented 2018-05-18 17:28:31 -0400
Canadian Patriot commented 4 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson, British Columbia exports more coal than any province or state in North America. Without coal exports, the economy of BC would collapse overnight. India and China build new coal plants monthly. Coal consumption is INCREASING world wide."

Global coal use peaked in 2014 at 3889mt. In 2016 the world used 3732mt. Building coal plants is not the same thing as using them. China’s particularly bad for this.

BC ships a lot of coal, but very little of it is mined in the province. A few jobs at the port, maybe. Not much else though.

“Drew Wakariuk commented 12 mins ago
Andrew MARGINAL? DYING? Yeah if you say so , wind turbines are Marginal at best and those and crap like Tesla are only around because of massive amounts of tax money. You are so devoid of reality it is a joke. "
Wind power is actually one of the cheapest sources of new power, despite your objections. See https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/aeo/pdf/electricity_generation.pdf

“Mike Krchnak commented 4 hours ago
All knowing Andrew, for someone that claims to be oh so smart…and educated (sic)….you are a stupid putz to say the least. In the last sentence of your post you cant see the stupidity in your own question.
Let me give you a hint….. “foreign funded”.
Who funds “Friends of science”? How do you know they’re not also foreign funded? (and since you seem to know they aren’t, I’d love to see your source on this). I can’t find anything – they go out of their way to obscure where their funding is coming from, so please do share.

I enjoy how upset I make you. LOL.
commented 2018-05-18 17:09:25 -0400
Andrew MARGINAL? DYING? Yeah if you say so , wind turbines are Marginal at best and those and crap like Tesla are only around because of massive amounts of tax money. You are so devoid of reality it is a joke.
commented 2018-05-18 17:06:13 -0400
Andrew Stephenson these protesters are funded by other fossil fuel companies in case you are too dense to figure that out.
commented 2018-05-18 17:04:50 -0400
Andrew Stephenson then why do they fund it everywhere else? Oil companies fund things themselves quite well. Banks want to make money. Why do you think everyone listens to kooks?
commented 2018-05-18 13:36:25 -0400
All knowing Andrew, for someone that claims to be oh so smart…and educated (sic)….you are a stupid putz to say the least. In the last sentence of your post you cant see the stupidity in your own question.
Let me give you a hint….. “foreign funded”.
You’re a fucking clown, give it up already.
commented 2018-05-18 13:26:11 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, British Columbia exports more coal than any province or state in North America. Without coal exports, the economy of BC would collapse overnight. India and China build new coal plants monthly. Coal consumption is INCREASING world wide.

“Coal production is a mainstay of the province’s economy, generating billions of dollars in annual revenue and supporting thousands of well-paid jobs. Coal production currently represents over half of the total mineral production revenues in the province. Coal is B.C.’s largest single export commodity.”
-Canadian Ministry of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources

http://www.empr.gov.bc.ca/Mining/Geoscience/Coal/Pages/default.aspx
http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/yes-anti-pipeline-vancouver-really-is-north-americas-largest-exporter-of-coal
https://dogwoodbc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Coal-BCs-Dirty-Secret-web.pdf
commented 2018-05-18 13:05:35 -0400
Banks don’t finance fossil fuels anymore because the future is uncertain, particularly for marginal sources like the oil sands, or a dying sector like coal.

Social pressure is of course a valid mechanism, but not the primary one.

How is “Friends of science”, a pro-oil think tank hiding under a plausibly deniable layer of greenwashing, any different than the “foreign funded” lobby groups they argue against?
commented 2018-05-18 11:24:07 -0400
Unfortunately we have cowards for politicians who won’t stand up and fight.