January 07, 2018

Minimum Wage Meltdown Has Wynne "Bullying" Tim Horton's

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

On Friday's show, I reported on Kathleen Wynne attacking Tim Horton's franchisees after they cut back employee benefits to cope with her decision to drastically raise Ontario's minimum wage.

Tim's is facing a 21% increase in the cost of labor on top of what are already thin profit margins, these new expenses are passed on to the franchisees, not the Brazilian corporate elites at the top of the company. 

Unlike governments, coffee shops are unable to run deficits or force customers to buy their products. But Kathleen Wynne doesn't understand what its like to run a business.

The Wynne Liberals have turned Ontario into the most indebted sub-sovereign government in the world, her attack on business harmed by her reckless policy is more proof of her ignorance of basic economics

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commented 2018-01-09 12:26:05 -0500
James, just answer this simple question with a yes or a no. Are you or have you ever been a business owner? Yes or no.
commented 2018-01-08 22:35:35 -0500
Many Canadians do not want to go to Toronto , because it is a dung heap. Ontario is THE WORST DAMN PROVINCE to drive through as well.
commented 2018-01-08 22:28:28 -0500
James Crockett where did you pull that idea from? Toronto is no big deal.
commented 2018-01-08 20:42:21 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

Plus let’s be honest, when people from other countries want to visit Canada, they want to go to Toronto first and foremost.
commented 2018-01-08 17:22:17 -0500
No kidding!
commented 2018-01-08 17:05:32 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

It is in Ontario, per the minimum wage increase.
commented 2018-01-08 17:00:25 -0500
James/Frank – Toronto is not the center of the universe!
commented 2018-01-08 16:47:55 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

No, it’s called a living wage, because more adults than ever in history are working those jobs. In Toronto, I never see kids working those job, unless it’s a seasonal thing like working Baskin Robbins for the summer. Go to the Eaton Centre for example and it’s adults working at every store for the most part.
commented 2018-01-08 16:47:00 -0500
I’m sure I will see more experienced workers being hired over young people….so the demographic will change in the coming years.
commented 2018-01-08 16:28:44 -0500
I see people between 16-24 all the time working in retail etc…
Living wage is an emotional term to describe paying mainly young unskilled workers still living at home.
commented 2018-01-08 16:24:56 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

Except that isn’t the majority of minimum wage workers. I never see kids (16+) working retail or fast food much anymore. It’s adults. People in their late 20’s and early 30’s for the most part. More than ever, these are jobs that adults are working and what they do to earn a living. Hence the reason why minimum wage is now described as a living wage.
commented 2018-01-08 15:38:34 -0500
I posted this on another thread this am. Re-posting here
TAMMIE PUTINSKI-ZANDBELT commented 2018-01-08 10:04:44 -0500
21% forced wage increase on small business’ for a 16-24 year old population (majority of minimum wage earners) who are still living at home, doesn’t sound reasonable to me, or to a number of small business owners I have spoken with. They have explained how the Provincial & Federal government are making it increasingly more difficult for them. They themselves are working very long hours and have to make some tough choices. Many have said they will no longer hire inexperienced applicants and give them training, a foot in the door so to speak, with raises after successful completion of probation period and proven ability to handle the duties & reponsibilities.

Unionized workers will demand increases to keep in step with Wynne’s large wage increases to unskilled workers.
Those who are paid above minimum wage in small business operations will demand increases as well.

I came across this interesting article a couple of months ago and it stuck with me.
commented 2018-01-08 14:26:25 -0500
Deborah Graupner,

They own Tim Hortons. It is COMPLETELY their business how franchises are run since those franchises represent the parent company.
commented 2018-01-08 13:20:26 -0500
If the H.O. of Tim Horton’ s has a problem then they should cover the increased costs to their franchise owners, otherwise they should butt out and keep their opinions to themselves.
commented 2018-01-08 10:14:27 -0500
Now Frank/James, calling franchise owners douchebags sure confirms your jealousy. Too bad you have resorted to name calling so soon after the creation of your new moniker; it was bound to happen!

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commented 2018-01-08 04:28:08 -0500
I wonder how much the wage hike affects the rebel wages.
commented 2018-01-08 01:26:05 -0500
Businesses don’t operate as charities. Hence,anything they incur as a cost is passed on to the consumer. Higher wages and benefits to build a car will increase the cost of the car. Of course there is a breaking point to that model.
Tim Hortons should raise their prices in Ontario They should not squeeze the individual franchise owner,the small business owner into paying for bad government policy.
Of course Wynne would jump on the rich one percenters as if every Hortons franchise is owned by a direct descendant of Tim himself. Just like Obama ,Wynne and her communist ilk wine and dine with the rich while claiming to champion for the little guy.
Higher minimum wages are inflationary ,period. Trying to hide this fact by screwing the franchise owners is ludicrous. If the prices go up and people get pissed off, that might be reflected in the way people vote.And Wynne’s certainly doesn’t want that,does she?
commented 2018-01-08 01:03:59 -0500
James Crockett if the government cared they would lower taxes and control the cost of utilities, why is it only business that has to suffer? Maybe she can control her wasteful spending.
commented 2018-01-07 23:46:06 -0500
Bill Elder that sounds about right. LOL.
As my Mom’s art teacher used to tell his students, “You must like it. You keep doing it”.
commented 2018-01-07 20:08:59 -0500
Ontario is such a glutton for punishment. – “oh whip us beat us, tax us, lie to us and cheat us we love it!! Do it again and again Mistress Kate we’ve been naughty sheepies”.
commented 2018-01-07 20:04:08 -0500
… Edward: There is no grey area between freedom and oppression.
… Either we live in a free nation that respects the right of employers to offer employment on their own terms, or we don’t.
… I should be free to offer employment for $1/hr. That is my business, and no one else’s. And, equally, an individual should be free to accept my terms, or not.
commented 2018-01-07 19:54:58 -0500
Edward Jobin, I don’t think you were included in the troll category. My sense is it was a reference to Frank Hohimer and later, his new screen name James Crockett.
commented 2018-01-07 19:44:03 -0500
I assure you that I am no troll but have simply suggested there are two sides to the equation and I never suggested all business owners were greedy however I am suggesting as much as there are smaller struggling businesses, there is also some who are doing quite well and can afford to treat their employees better but do not simply because they do not have to. I also said that unions aren’t really too interested in small towns and if they are the employees are usually to frightened to get involved as they don’t want to lose their jobs. But that doesn’t mean I am pro union either. Unions unfortunately can take things from one extreme to the other but they do have a historical significance. They were birthed out of the abuse by some owners on employees who were children and often worked long hours in dangerous environments. This is the stuff that inspired much of Charles Dicken’s works. Unfortunately in some smaller communities it seems as though the government and unions look the other way and the workers are often left on their own. My mother who grew up in Port Hope in very difficult economic conditions noted upon retuning to the vicinity many years later that very little had changed and living in the country myself now for awhile it is like living in two different worlds. And just t note. because someone doesn’t agree with you 100% doesn’t always make them a troll. Please a little maturity doesn’t hurt.
commented 2018-01-07 17:07:41 -0500
Katrina, agreed. The trolls have yet to appear on this particular article but did on other related ones saying we business owners are greedy and patrons are cheap on tips. So sweet when they open their mouths and remove all doubt that they have never owned a business. I, like you, own a business and work very long hours for what does end up calculating to less than minimum wage, I took all the risk, put up all the capital, and am bullied by a government whose decision makers have never owned a business unless they inherited from daddy…
commented 2018-01-07 16:48:16 -0500
As a small business owner (much smaller than Tim Hortons). I have to say I work for a lot less than 15$ per hour if I really sat down and calculated all the hours spent to keep it working and running smoothly.
I fear for the future of this Province.
commented 2018-01-07 16:41:04 -0500
Wynne is a hypocrite. Her govt take on the the $2.40 raise is $250 for each full time minimum wage earner. ($2.40 raise x 2080 full time hours x .0505 prov income tax rate = $250 ) Talk about being a bully. If she had any integrity she would raise the allowed income credit amount by the yearly raise amount she mandated ($5,000) for ALL workers.
commented 2018-01-07 16:35:15 -0500
I just finished listening to the Thursday Andrew Lawton show. He makes reference to the premier always talking about making things fairer, including in this Tim Hortons case. In response, Lawton has a new name for the premier. Mein Fairer.
commented 2018-01-07 16:29:06 -0500
Billy Howard, the description I posted was for the Roy Green show.

I don’t agree with Tim Horton’s head office who issued that statement, I think they threw franchisees to the wind.
I like your suggestion!