October 16, 2017

Nestlé Removes Christian Symbol From Greek Yogurt Packages

Rebel Staff

The company Nestlé made a huge politically correct move against Christianity this week that has Christians all over the world up in arms. 

After Lidl, also Nestlé removes Christian cross from Greek yogurt packagingThe world’s largest food and beverage company Nestlé has removed a Christian cross from its Greek yogurt packaging representing an orthodox church in the Greek island of Santorini. The decision reminds the one previously done by supermarket giant Lidl ‘not to hurt sensibility of other religions’.

 

This is yet another example of a company making a move against Christianity in the name of political correctness. This is due to leftists who are on a mission to remove any kind of Christian symbol from every product they can. Leftists claim that they want to ensure that people are free to worship any religious faith that they want to, unless of course that faith is Christianity. Thanks to them, even a simple Christian cross has been deemed "offensive" in the politically correct Western world. 

As we move into the holiday season, the war on Christmas is likely to start once again. While this time of year was once a time of love and good cheer, it is now a time when grumpy liberals launch protests at businesses that dare to mention the Christmas holiday. These days, even saying the words "Merry Christmas" can land someone in hot water, as liberal snowflakes find this phrase "triggering."

What do you think about this? Sound off in the comments section below!

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commented 2017-10-20 09:06:51 -0400
Tammie: I agree with you fully on how you deal with other Christians.
Chris: Welcome.
Frank: I have enjoyed this exchange that we have had. I am sure that we will interact again on some other issue. Remember – we are not enemies, but people just trying to live out our faith as we sense God’s leading. If someone picks up something from my posts that leads them to ponder and grow in their faith, then I am pleased. If someone investigates the Christian faith because of something I have posted, then I am pleased. That is why I post (although I do jump in on some other issues of interest to me).
I wish everyone a great day and may the Lord’s blessings be upon you all:)
commented 2017-10-20 00:18:05 -0400
Chris Aitken,

Welcome!

I guess that makes two now. :)
commented 2017-10-19 21:12:13 -0400
I have never posted on this site, but I just joined. I couldn’t resist, after reading comments that apparently there is a lack of born-again christians on this comment section. Here I am. :)
commented 2017-10-19 19:32:43 -0400
Paul Dixon, I am not offended, or feel judged by you. My point is, I do not believe it is within my purview to deem what is in the heart of my fellow Christian; or to find fault with their personal relationship with God. If I am asked a question, and I have the capacity to answer, I will. If I’m asked a question and don’t have the capacity to answer, I refer to a more learned person. I also suggest reading the New Testament.
Jesus taught us to look at our own sins, repent, and ask for mercy ; while striving to do better in every way. I find prayer a very helpful way to connect with God.
commented 2017-10-19 15:59:28 -0400
Frank: I have heard this often – Jesus says that we should not judge one another. What did Jesus actually say? “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgement you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.” (Matthew 7:1,2) He goes on to talk about the fault of seeing and attacking the speck in my brother’s eye, but not the log in my own eye.(verses 3-5)

What is Jesus saying? If you analyze the passage you will see that he is saying that I should not be pointing out and jumping all over sin in another “brother”, while avoiding or refusing to acknowledge the sin in my own life. I can expect to be judged with the same “measure” that I judge others. In which case I need to deal humbly with a wayward brother or sister who needs help out of their sin, knowing that I have sin in my own life. This is dealing with being cautious not to be a hypocrite, or self-righteous. I have nowhere attempted to call anyone out for a sin – I do not know you. I have simply pointed to Jesus’ dealings with Nicodemus in John 3 in regards to what it is to be a Christian, and then challenged anyone on this site to ask themselves that question. I am sure that you would agree that not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is actually a Christian.

Now, I do not know how you stand with the Bible, but the Christian church has always held that the WHOLE Bible is the word of God. So if I go to another reference, namely 1 Corinthians 5:9-13, I read specifically in verse 12: “For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?” So here we are told, by God through Paul, that we are to judge those inside the church for particular sins. He even goes on to say in verse 13: “Purge the evil person from among you.” So here we are actually COMMANDED to judge some people in the church for particular reasons! That does not contradict what Jesus said – both passages actually complement each other.

So I need you to point out to me how I have been judgmental. I do not even know any of you personally, so I have absolutely no knowledge of any sin in your lives. I have never stated that I am without sin, in fact I have admitted that I am a wretched sinner, like all Christians (1 John 1:8). And I have made the statement that no Christian is good in and of themselves, that any goodness in me is not because I am good, but it is “Christ living in me” (Gal.3:20). I have used Jesus’ dealing with Nicodemus to make the very important point that a Christian must be “born again” to see the kingdom of God (John 3:3).

So if you or anyone else on this forum is challenged or offended by what I have written, I would implore you to check out Jesus and what he taught and said – from the Bible. Maybe you are a Christian, maybe you are not. I am only doing what the Lord has called me to do – sharing the word of truth, so that as many as possible can be saved. I hope to see you in glory one day:)
commented 2017-10-19 14:05:59 -0400
Paul Dixon,

You seem to do a lot of judging. I don’t think Jesus would approve.
commented 2017-10-19 12:13:07 -0400
I sure hit a raw nerve. That’s okay. Dialogue is a valuable component of life. I will attempt to distill my thoughts in line with the questions.
The main question that continues to arise is: What is a Christian? Or: What makes someone a Christian?
Frank: There are no “good” Christians. We are all wretched sinners, even Christians. I refuse to accept the adjective “good” (even when I do some saintly service:), because the only good that is in me or comes from me is “Christ who lives in me”.(Gal.2:20) The good is not attributable to me, but to Christ in me. I am no better in God’s eyes for what I do or think than the Christian who is lying in a coma waiting to go to glory. If I can do something good I boast in the Lord, who does the “good” through me by His grace.
Andy: Yes – God knows the heart better than I, or even the person whose heart it is. But that does not take away from my argument, or even deal with the question. When, or if, you go to a worship service, and the pastor/priest gives a sermon, do you only want to hear what a nice person you are, or only listen to a message that is warm and fuzzy for your heart. When Nicodemus, a person whom we learn later was very drawn to Jesus, came to him in John 3, wondering what he was all about, Jesus went right to what he knew was in Nicodemus’ heart and said that to “see” and “enter” the kingdom of God one must be born again. There it is! Are you born again? It has nothing to do with me! I have been challenged multiple times (a lot at seminary) throughout my 33 years as Christian, from the pulpit, privately, and from Scripture, and all of it has helped to refine my understanding of my faith. I am not being arrogant, but doing what a Christian is called to do – present the truth of Scripture, just as Jesus did. Jesus loved Nicodemus and he spoke the truth. I believe that your disagreement is with Jesus, not me!
Tammie: All Christians have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ. But again – that does not take away from my point. I challenge everyone who claims to be a Christian whether they are born again of the Spirit of God or not. Because if they are not, they are not Christians. And they need to know this!! Many people have no clue about that issue and walk through life thinking they are Christians when they are not. I have a family member who has been in leadership in a major denominational church for decades. When confronted with this spiritual indwelling in a book that her new pastor was using she came to me because she had no idea what this was all about. I could see from her life that, though a very nice, caring person, there was something missing in her spiritual demeanour. She simply is not a Christian, but has been told from day one that she is because that particular church was negligent in its teaching. So now – am I more loving to just ignore her and allow her to go on “thinking” that she is a Christian, when she likely is not (maybe she is – that is God’s knowledge, not mine) for fear of offending her, in which case she goes to hell at death, or do I tell her about the truth of indwelling, see her misunderstanding, have her embrace Jesus, and be assured of going to glory? Rhetorical question?!

Good questions folks. I await your feedback. But please think through what I have said, check out the scripture that I have referenced, and go to Jesus. May the Lord bless you all:)
commented 2017-10-18 20:09:21 -0400
Paul Dixon, I just read your post, and, I would like to say it’s beyond my purview to deem what kind of a relationship a Christian has with God.
commented 2017-10-18 16:49:18 -0400
PAUL DIXON… Might I suggest that what is truly in a person’s heart is for God to decide, not you… Your arrogance is showing, and that’s not very “Christian” is it?…
commented 2017-10-18 15:02:07 -0400
Paul Dixon,

So since even you acknowledge that born again Christians are a very small demographic compared to Christians in name only, does that mean even those that think they are a good Christian are going to hell when they die? If not, what’s the difference then?
commented 2017-10-18 14:44:26 -0400
And Tammy, believe me when I say that I take no delight in saying that most here are not Christians. I wish everyone were. But I do not believe that I do anyone a favour by going along with the misconception put forth by society, and unfortunately by several so-called Christian denominations and many leaders, that being a Christian is simply a matter of superficially approving the doctrines, or being baptized, going to a worship service, wearing a cross, putting a few bucks in the offering plate, etc. Being a Christian means being born again of the Holy Spirit (John 3:1-15). Without that experience one can neither see nor enter the kingdom of God. Everything else comes out of that. Period!!
If even one person on this forum takes this to heart and becomes saved, then I am pleased. I do not get a merit badge, or a sticker, or a pat on the back from Jesus for it, but only the delight at sharing eternal life with another brother or sister in Christ, whom I likely will never see this side of glory.
commented 2017-10-18 13:42:23 -0400
Are you daft?
The " 14.5 million and counting" statement I made, is telling you this is still happening, in Canada.
You really have no idea what you are talking about. Cursory google searches will keep you in the dark, and, posting comments from an apologist’s perspective. Halal and Sharia go hand in hand.

Worldwide, the scheme/scam is netting trillions.
commented 2017-10-18 13:03:49 -0400
Well, at least you’re not saying it’s “trillions”, which is something I’ve seen on the fringier of foil-hat sites.
commented 2017-10-18 12:05:03 -0400
Wrong again Andrew. 14.5 million, and counting!
commented 2017-10-18 10:50:45 -0400
Oh, I’ve researched it. Every single source I’ve seen cites the same case – that 300k donation made by one Muslim group to a “Hamas-associated” charity a few years ago. As I said, I don’t particularly buy this as a nefarious incident, nor do I buy the projection of said nefarious intent onto unrelated third parties.

Guilt by association isn’t legally tenable. No matter how much you want it to be, it simply isn’t.
commented 2017-10-18 10:15:15 -0400
Paul Dixon, thanks for taking the time to respond to my post.
commented 2017-10-18 09:52:36 -0400
Again Andrew, limited research on your part is a negligible approach. You may want to dismiss it, I certainly don’t.
commented 2017-10-18 00:36:49 -0400
“Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 5 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson, sorry, your understanding of Halal certification is sorely lacking. It’s not a conspiracy theory, and, if you actually researched this with any modicum of seeking the truth, you would walk back your statements and stop being an apologist. "

The evidence I’ve seen so far has been pretty thin. There are some vague allegations that one certifier has some connections to a charity with unspecified links to Hamas (given that Hamas is the de-facto government of Gaza, any charity operating there would by necessity have some link, even if tenuous). This does not mean they’re funding terrorism, and beyond that one donation there’s not much more to the story. The major certifiers have no such link, the Muslim Association was always a small player.

My understanding is that this is nothing more than a vague guilt-by-association type thing, in which one bad apple spoils the barrel … and we don’t even know that it’s bad, or if the link is innocent, merely because they operate in Gaza, an entity that by virtually every measure needs that help.

When your story is almost entirely speculative overinterpretation of a single donation several years ago … yes, we can safely dismiss it as conspiracy.
commented 2017-10-17 23:34:02 -0400
Paul Dixon,

I agree with you there. Not a whole lot of born again Christians, so I guess not a whole lot of true Christians.
commented 2017-10-17 22:47:14 -0400
Tammy – it is sheer numbers. The Rebel is not a Christian site. And the language,admissions, and attitude from many on this forum give no proof of any significant number of true Christians. A person is not a Christian simply because he calls himself one. A person must be born again! There are some, I admit, but sheer numbers and testimony indicate a small number. Just read the posts (which I know you do – you are a major contributor).
If you are one, and to those who are, may the Lord bless you. Pray for those who are not, and maybe my statement will become wrong in the future:) I certainly hope so!!
I also hope and pray that this post will challenge everyone to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they truly are saved!
commented 2017-10-17 20:34:34 -0400
I could be wrong and Paul please correct me if I am, but I think he is saying that people are Christian in name only. They don’t really follow The Bible or only follow certain parts of The Bible that suit them and ignore the rest.
commented 2017-10-17 20:19:22 -0400
Paul Dixon, please cite sources to back up your claim, And I suspect that there are only a few people on this forum who have any real connection to the Christian faith anyway".
commented 2017-10-17 19:28:50 -0400
Andrew, take some time to also research what Mohammad said to his followers about consuming food that is possibly “haram”. The solution is simple, he told his followers to say “Bismallah” and then eat!
commented 2017-10-17 19:25:51 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, sorry, your understanding of Halal certification is sorely lacking. It’s not a conspiracy theory, and, if you actually researched this with any modicum of seeking the truth, you would walk back your statements and stop being an apologist.
commented 2017-10-17 17:17:48 -0400
Andy – I hope that I am:)
commented 2017-10-17 16:43:26 -0400
Paul Dixon:- “And I suspect that there are only a few people on this forum who have any real connection to the Christian faith anyway…” And I “suspect” Paul you are wrong, wrong, wrong on that one…
commented 2017-10-17 15:44:00 -0400
To me it seems like a business decision. I am not supporting any comments made by others on this forum, but I can understand Nestle doing it. I am likely as conservative a Christian as one will find on this forum, as many of you know if you have read other comments by me. So why is this is not an issue for me.
Well I honestly will not buy a product if it has mosques on the packaging, if it is labeled halal, or if it comes from a country that I can identify as a human rights abuser, e.g. a Muslim majority country. And Nestle knows that a church on the label will likely not be attractive to a Muslim consumer base. After all – all you need is for one idiotic imam to tell his sheep not to buy Nestle because of the church on it and they will all submit.
So I can understand Nestle’s move. Not surprising. We are becoming a more pluralistic society. In my faith community we know who we are – we do not need a mostly secular culture condescending to us to give us a false sense of security. We do not need these patronizing symbols like a church on packaging to attract me to the product.
And I suspect that there are only a few people on this forum who have any real connection to the Christian faith anyway, so this should not be an issue for you either.
This looks like a mountain being made out of a mole hill.
commented 2017-10-17 14:13:35 -0400
AS, ethics about slaughter of animals were established long time ago only to be thrown out the window because of a certain religion. The instant death of a bolt in the spinal cord for beef is considered the most humane, no different than a bullet in the right place. You should try it sometime, trust me you won’t feel a thing.
commented 2017-10-17 13:30:36 -0400
Andrew Stephenson in the previous article about a Christian group not being allowed in a University you claimed Christians were whining, you never brought up your EQUAL about that. You merely berated them for wanting to do as any other group. HYPOCRITE!
commented 2017-10-17 12:19:16 -0400
“Dirk Kanis commented 16 mins ago
AS thinks halal has nothing to do with terrorists but then says " I don’t buy myself, because it’s usually more expensive"
Why do you think it is more expensive?
As for halal steaks you buy in a pinch you must like cruelty to animals. Nothing tastes like a steak from an animal that got its throat slit. :

it’s more expensive because it has a devoted supply chain, one which lacks the economies of scale of the “mainstream” chain. .

If you’re going to get into the ethics of meat consumption and animal cruelty, throat-slitting is the least of your concerns. It’s no secret that the stunning techniques used by conventional abbatoirs are hardly 100% reliable (it would be very expensive to ensure that they are) and animals do go to the throat slitting station fully conscious from time to time… never mind the stress of the lead-up. I don’t know what the failure rate actually is, but it’s not zero. If you’re going to eat meat, something has to die, and it’s hardly a gentle kiss on the forehead in any case. If it bothers you, I suggest you become a vegan.