August 22, 2017

Not nation building, killing terrorists: Why President Trump’s Afghanistan message is right

Christopher WilsonRebel Commentator

Many in Trump’s base are non-interventionist, libertarian-leaning Republicans who see overseas engagements as contributing in part to America’s decline. 

Despite this, Trump’s message on what to do about the now sixteen year long war in Afghanistan is clear.

Afghanistan and Iraq were both a mess when Trump inherited them from Obama, and likewise when Obama inherited them from Bush. 

Obama certainly didn’t make things better, and now the question is, can Trump?

The president makes a key point that maybe those who originally supported the exit from Iraq have learned from the vacuum that was created, and understand that this cannot happen again in Afghanistan.

There’s a tremendous need for U.S. soldiers to operate in the two major cities, Kabul and Kandahar, to prepare local Afghan police and military forces to take the fight to the Taliban.

Both Afghanistan and Iraq are now proxy battles in regions where American and Western allied interests need to come out as winners.

Watch as I show you why Trump believes that if the Taliban face enough military pressure, they may come to the table for peace talks.

After 9/11, the U.S. embarked on a nation building effort in the Middle East, and while I tend to be idealistic to a fault in my belief that the entire world would be better off with western values and democracy, that experiment has failed spectacularly.

And so I could not agree more with the President's clear direction:

"We are not nation building again, we are killing terrorists."

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commented 2017-08-25 13:42:05 -0400
I really hope Trump has a plan, knows what he is doing and is not being bullied or buying into the big corporate war machine. I know there is a fine line between walking softly and carrying a big stick and full on war machine. I just hope Trump is always keeping that in mind. It’s good he keeps his cards close to his chest, but it’s nerve wracking also.
I’ll just have to tighten my seat belt, and hold on.
commented 2017-08-24 13:17:42 -0400
Not just ISIS & Taliban, don’t forget about BOKO HALAL.
commented 2017-08-23 14:35:18 -0400
https://www.emptywheel.net/2014/02/25/is-john-brennan-shaping-pakistans-new-counterterrorism-program/
… and of course, Brennan. This stuff just never changes. This article is 2014, but it’s the same stuff. Brennan has been in the CIA since 1980, and worked his way up to Director of the Central Intelligence Agency on March 8, 2013.

Steve Pieczenik has some pretty strong feelings about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl9In-XKepo
Debate On Trump & Afghanistan

If you want to see his impressive civil service and military resume read wiki under ‘professional life’. He is a terrorist expert. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik

Okay, I’m done, sorry for going on.
commented 2017-08-23 13:28:46 -0400
That attack on Syria never made any sense to me.
commented 2017-08-23 13:27:59 -0400
It is starting to put the U.S.attack on Syria into perspective. Assad is fighting against ISIS and the ‘rebel moderates’, Russia has Assad’s back. The U.S. want Assad replaced and back the rebels against Assad, so it sure does look like the U.S. has no intention of ridding us of ISIS to me. That attack on S
commented 2017-08-23 13:27:57 -0400
It is starting to put the U.S.attack on Syria into perspective. Assad is fighting against ISIS and the ‘rebel moderates’, Russia has Assad’s back. The U.S. want Assad replaced and back the rebels against Assad, so it sure does look like the U.S. has no intention of ridding us of ISIS to me. That attack on S
commented 2017-08-23 13:21:19 -0400
Russia and Iran on one side, The U.S. and the Saudis on the other. This has been going on for a long long time, with how many presidents as puppets? It seems no matter who gets into power and no matter how honorable their intentions are in the beginning, they become puppets for the deep state, the war mongers and the big war machine. McCain and his fan boys are sooooo pleased. none of this is good.
Trump has been cucked.
commented 2017-08-23 13:03:22 -0400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJ5Z7q9nc8
Yeah, I don’t know about this Afghanistan thing. McMaster could never be trusted in my opinion and I think Trump is getting bad advice from a lot of the old guard, like Kissinger who have a really skewed point of view in my mind. Kissinger said he would rather have ISIS than let Iran have power in the M.E. I don’t want Iran;s mohammedans to have more power either, and they will have their way with Afghanistan if the U.S. isn’t there, but ISIS? Are we really that screwed or what?
I am sure I don’t understand.
commented 2017-08-23 06:17:09 -0400
That was the unvarnished truth about the Trump presidency?!? That was someone singing Hail to the Chief. I agree with Bill Elder. Trump has abandoned his campaign promises. He is giving a blank cheque to the Pentagon. Wilson’s idea that “America First” means sweeping globalist intervention is Orwellian fakes news gobbledygook. Back to BC for you young Chrissy; you are woefully beyond your depth.
commented 2017-08-23 04:32:34 -0400
it is insane to send American troops to Afghanistan to fight Muslims while allowing other Muslims to come into America. They are all adherents to the same ideology. The one westerners refuse to learn.
commented 2017-08-23 02:33:21 -0400
The more I hear Trump the more I like him and his efforts to set things right.
commented 2017-08-23 00:59:33 -0400
I always got a kick out of the left wing fools who claimed Iraq was the reason Obama created so much debt , especially when the war never cost as much as that debt , and was accounted for in the budget every year before Obama got into power. OH RIGHT , LIBERAL MATH!
commented 2017-08-23 00:57:28 -0400
Freedom Rebel got that right , the only thing they lacked was the will to get the job done , or it would have been done a long time ago.
commented 2017-08-23 00:56:45 -0400
Carol Masse listen to Karan , the math does not add up.
commented 2017-08-23 00:32:12 -0400
The allies need to cut the heads off this snake if we ever want lasting peace. Something even Trump doesn’t want to do, partly for geopolitical reasons. But if you don’t, they’ll continue to churn out ever more extremists and spread, as they have now to places like the Philippines and South America, along with the west.
commented 2017-08-22 22:28:17 -0400
My thinking is that Trump has been captured by the White House 7-days-in-May generals.
commented 2017-08-22 22:03:31 -0400
CAROLE MASSE commented: “This is another total lie. Afghanistan is probably the only country in the world with vast mineral ressources unexploited.”

If the extraction of minerals is our aim then there couldn’t be more flawed policy because according to US Geological Survey there’s $1 trillion worth of estimated mineral wealth in Afghanistan and we’ve already spent almost $2 trillion in the last 16 years & still have reached nowhere.
Greed & treachery (towards own citizens) mixed with some ignorance is the driving force behind our afghan policy.
commented 2017-08-22 21:51:06 -0400
Since 2001 US alone has spent $715 billion in Afghanistan (plus another $800 from other countries) and still we haven’t made much headway in defeating taliban/al-qaida or any other mohammedan terror groups. That in itself tells a lot about misguided & flawed policies on Afghanistan & war on terror.
Before continuing any further with this facade US President & other western leaders should do some deep study of Afghanistan and the mindset of its people. It would be appropriate if they study history of Afghanistan starting 1838 (just before first anglo-afghan war).
Regardless of how much money we send to these countries (another trillions & quadrillion of tax payers money) Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq & other such countries will remain as they are today impoverished, full of crime & breeding grounds for jihadist. Just think if all that money is spent on the people who are paying for this worthless cause through their taxes how much prosperity we can bring to our society & countries. Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq is NOT our problem our focus should be on the welfare & security of our own people not someone who’s hell-bent on destroying us.
Trump, before his elections has promised a non-intervention policy, but now he’s retracted & is going the same path as any other politician. Quiet disappointing performance, so far.
commented 2017-08-22 21:50:35 -0400
The UK has stated that it will back Trump in Afghanistan. Will Trudeau’s Canada? LOL.

There is always somebody willing to make money from the industry of war, ever since Man started putting points on the end of long sticks and lashed stones to shorter ones.
commented 2017-08-22 21:42:36 -0400
This is another total lie. Afghanistan is probably the only country in the world with vast mineral ressources unexploited. After Irak, Syria, Libya, Yemen, back to Afghanistan and now we will add Pakistan to the pot. If they want to kill terrorists, they would have to kill half of the muslim world. Those lies from the Military Industrial Globalist complex will never end. Ordinary people are getting killed, maimed, for the benefit of the rich and powerful.
commented 2017-08-22 21:31:02 -0400
It’s time the Libturds get flushed!!
For a POTUS who supposedly is very devisive – sure does have a HUGE following – like here @ Pheonix – damn near 30,000 present & about 25,000 watching on YouTube – RSBN -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RturpZ8Ato
commented 2017-08-22 18:54:56 -0400
I would like to remind everyone that Afghanistan was not an American intervention errand, it was a UN intervention errand.

@Freedom Rebel. No armourer in all of history has ever had to pick a fight in order to sell his wares. The whole “milirtary industrial complex” thing is a marxist canard. If you were a crime banker and a cocaine dealer came to you with a plan whereby he would become rich by being his own best customer would you use him for a money laundry? Do some research on arms makers world wide and see what non-sense the theory is. Afghanistan is chronic because Obama sucked up to the Pakistanis.
commented 2017-08-22 17:11:26 -0400
Since 9/11 – IN THE NAME OF ISLAM (SATAN): 33,916 Attacks, 218,746 Killed, 299,955 Injured that we know of

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