February 15, 2018

Florida school massacre: Guns, the police response, and how to stop a potential murderer

John CardilloRebel Host | Off The Cuff

Another massacre at a high school, this time in Broward County, Florida, where 17 students and faculty members were gunned down in cold blood.

I'm going to be discussing what we can do to prevent future events like this one, with retired Deputy Police Commissioner Bill Flanagan, Former Broward County Sheriff Al Lamberti, and Forensic Psychologist Dr. Jolie Silva.

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commented 2018-02-17 21:30:26 -0500
Matthew K
The cops don’t have to worry about armed teachers and identifying them from the bad guys upon their arrival at the scene. Because by the time the cops get there IT WILL BE ALL OVER and the bad guys will be the ones all bloody and dead on the floor with trained and armed teachers standing above.
Lots of criticism from Matthew but alas no solutions, the usual Left WingNut position. And Matthew you recounted an incident that is decades old, from the past, is that where you have been in your absence, in the past. It strikes me that what you refer to as “The Real World” the rest of us call “Fantasy Island.”
commented 2018-02-17 20:18:22 -0500
Matthew K, you sound manic!
commented 2018-02-17 00:08:55 -0500
Matthew K please go rob a Hells Angels clubhouse they will not have guns since we have laws LMAO!
commented 2018-02-17 00:08:06 -0500
Matthew K why not quote scripture we have to hear secular garbage all the damn time? And secular socialists are the worst mass murderers in human history so spare us support for your hate filled peers.
commented 2018-02-17 00:06:22 -0500
Matthew K the FBI was tipped off twice about this guy, and in case you missed it he was not a white nationalist like the liberal media said. LMAO!
commented 2018-02-17 00:05:15 -0500
Matthew K then explain Israel and if gun control works explain Brazil they are around 16 times worse than the States in gun violence.
commented 2018-02-16 20:50:28 -0500
According to John Cardillo’s piece Feb.16 there was a resource officer at the Florida school, so there was at least one armed deputy in the school at the tome of the shooting. One of the questions would be, did he confront the shooter?
commented 2018-02-16 19:14:10 -0500
Mathew K. I can’t say the same.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/07/30/at-least-7-states-now-have-armed-staff-in-schools
At Least 7 States Now Have Armed Staff in Schools

https://csgjusticecenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/NCSL-Arming-Staff-Brief.pdf
Arming Teachers-A snapshot of Legislative action

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/09/us/south-dakota-gun-law-classrooms.html
South Dakota became the first state in the nation to enact a law explicitly authorizing school employees to carry guns on the job

And for the love of the good Lord above Matt…. don’t be such a condescending asshole.
commented 2018-02-16 17:59:17 -0500
Matthew…..judging by your comment(s), you will need a lot more time in the real world.
There is a massive difference between being paranoid and being informed and diligent.
As far as Dan’s comment, he is not far off in his idea. Identify and label the undesirables and give them a chance and if they don’t conform to society, eliminate them, send back from where they came.
commented 2018-02-16 14:02:24 -0500
Woo Hoo, I’m back! It’s been a while. I’ve been busy out there in the real world, not hiding behind my keyboard to support the Rebel echo chamber, working up some conspiracy theory about FBI involvement in shootings or some Muslim takeover (good to see you Drew and Liza). It’s a great world out there if you get beyond your own paranoia.

Anyway, couple of thoughts here. Dan: your proposal to “winnow out the chaff” is interesting. Except the most recent mass murderers in America had no priors. So that obviously won’t solve the problem. What your proposing would actually be considered illegal, even by Conservative standards, so you may as well stop typing. And please, for the actual love of God, don’t quote Scripture.

And to all you who would like to arm the teachers and throw security forces into schools, how do you expect an education system (which most rightists claim is failing already) to pay for such measures? Plus, what’s gonna happen when you have 20 armed teachers all trying to be the hero? And then how are the real cops going to know who the hell is the bad guy and who’s the good guy? Think it through people, come on. Your brains are capable of so much more!

Here in Canada, how many school shootings have there been? Okay, a sprinkling. I’ll give you that. And yeah, Canada’s population is minuscule compared to America’s. But the WORST mass shooting in Canadian history happened almost 30 years ago. Something’s working here, don’t you think?
commented 2018-02-16 14:01:54 -0500
Woo Hoo, I’m back! It’s been a while. I’ve been busy out there in the real world, not hiding behind my keyboard to support the Rebel echo chamber, working up some conspiracy theory about FBI involvement in shootings or some Muslim takeover (good to see you Drew and Liza). It’s a great world out there if you get beyond your own paranoia.

Anyway, couple of thoughts here. Dan: your proposal to “winnow out the chaff” is interesting. Except the most recent mass murderers in America had no priors. So that obviously won’t solve the problem. What your proposing would actually be considered illegal, even by Conservative standards, so you may as well stop typing. And please, for the actual love of God, don’t quote Scripture.

And to all you who would like to arm the teachers and throw security forces into schools, how do you expect an education system (which most rightists claim is failing already) to pay for such measures? Plus, what’s gonna happen when you have 20 armed teachers all trying to be the hero? And then how are the real cops going to know who the hell is the bad guy and who’s the good guy? Think it through people, come on. Your brains are capable of so much more!

Here in Canada, how many school shootings have there been? Okay, a sprinkling. I’ll give you that. And yeah, Canada’s population is minuscule compared to America’s. But the WORST mass shooting in Canadian history happened almost 30 years ago. Something’s working here, don’t you think?
commented 2018-02-16 11:21:27 -0500
The present mindset of ‘liberal’ society is to take all these costly defensive measures, in order to defend against the sickos doing all their sicko stuff to us.
Well, as history has shown, this is too expensive and pretty much ineffective.
Whereas we don’t want to head down the “Minority Report” or “Gattaca” road, some effective means must be applied to keep our children and other vulnerable members of society safe from the sickos , the terrorists and the rest of the scum.
One could start by winnowing out the chaff. Prolific offenders – who commit most of the crimes, according to statistics – should be ID’d and targeted for removal – this move alone woud solve very many societal problems and significantly reduce resources that could be used somewhere else…so the solution of removal does not mean incarceration, it means permanent removal…
It’s only because of the pervasive and embedded Marxist ideology of the left and their hug-a-thug justice system that the victim is ignored, or abused and revictimized by the state, and the criminal scum are coddled and not killed!
We just need to remember, every time the left are able to slime their way into power, good things are turned into bad…
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” Isaiah 5:20
Gun-Free-Zones are as imbecilic, self destructive and as unConstitutional as Free-Speech-Zones.

…and, some men just want to watch the world burn…
commented 2018-02-16 10:19:25 -0500
Lay off the video games all ready, you sound like a SJW Leftist moron. Games don’t kill people, people kill people. The ERSB exists for a reason and games like GTA 5 have a M17+ raiting for a reason. My province of New Brunswick has a very well ballanced law that if you are under the age for the ERSB raiting the store is obligated to not sell to you but instead to your parent or legal guardian and inform them of the content. That puts parents in the place of decision makers and not the government and allows companies like Rockstar to make these games and hire tallented game programmers. Lets face it games like GTA 5 or always going to be around as a way to unwind at the end of the day.
commented 2018-02-16 06:44:27 -0500
Last time I checked all ammunition sold today has a much quicker response time than a 9-1-1 call.

CCW willing and able teachers, train them in the safe use of a firearms, and you have a “quick response team”.
commented 2018-02-16 03:08:45 -0500
To prevent this from happening, you need front line trained, armed security at the door, no one gets in past security with any weapons and one of the tools should be metal detectors. If you are naked and don’t have a reason to be there, you don’t get in. The other safeguard, is teachers and other personnel need to be armed, if teachers give, the I didn’t sign up to be a cop or carry a gun, the question in their minds should be. Did they sign up to be killed? Because for a long time that has been the case. Schools represent perfect targets, they are gun free zones and we all know how effective that has been over the years. I read a story of a young woman who carried a concealed firearm. Started college which was a gun free zone, so she did not carry her gun. While crossing the campus one night on the way back to her dorm she was attacked, beaten and raped. Had she had her gun, that would not of happened and that perpetrator went on to assault other victims. They guard money at banks with guns, they guard scum politicians with guns but the children of America, they are convenient targets for the mentally ill of the nation. As usual, nothing will change and we will enjoy the next demonstration of outrage when the next mental patient decides to break with reality and murder children. It’s not the fault of guns, the gun lobby or the lack of laws, it’s insufficient levels of security at locations like schools, shopping malls, theaters and other places that offer no resistance to potential attackers. Whether they be Mentally Ill or Terrorists the threat is the same. The world has changed and those who are not armed become victims, the only ones with guns and the ability to demonstrate a response in a life and death incident are the police. This guarantees casualties because as they say “When Seconds Count The Police Are Just Minutes Away.” I don’t relish the thought that I and other citizens are denied the right to fight back to preserve our lives in the event of an attack. Security measures have to be utilized at schools in the future, hurry up about it before it’s your kid being mutilated and murdered..
commented 2018-02-16 02:02:44 -0500
Can any of you left wing gun control twits explain Brazil?
commented 2018-02-15 23:51:33 -0500
It is just too early to know what happened. Not convinced of any conclusions anyone has put forward. This kid may be a shooter and he may be mentally disturbed, but there seems to be more going on here.
commented 2018-02-15 22:33:46 -0500
You’re a good man John. Good in-depth reporting on another tragedy.
commented 2018-02-15 21:34:09 -0500
All the BS put out by the Press in places like Canada and the UK etc, is just plain stupidity. Police in the US could confiscate all the legally owned weapons and the gun crimes would still continue. Nobody thinks that criminals apply for a gun permit and go to the local gun shop to obtain their weapons. Do they?
commented 2018-02-15 20:26:12 -0500
POINTS TO PONDER ….. THE COVER UP BEGINSREPORTS OF OFFICERS PILLING THE OF THE VICTIMS OF THE SHOUTERS IN A CORNER AND COVERING THEM WITH MATSTHUS DISTROY EVIDENCE.
commented 2018-02-15 19:19:20 -0500
POINTS TO PONDER…..THE COVER UP BEGINSREPORTS OF TWO SHOUTERS