March 10, 2015

Free votes and abortion: Justin Trudeau wants to have it both ways

Marissa SemkiwArchive

Amidst the media frenzy over Justin Trudeau’s deliberate remarks that likened the Conservative’s immigration policies to Canada’s anti-Semitic policies of the 1930s, scant attention was paid to the rest of his ill-conceived address.

On abortion, the Liberal leader has been unapologetic. Trudeau has mandated that all candidates for the upcoming election hold pro-abortion views, which is to say, they already make up their minds on any potential legislation touching this issue, before it is even introduced in the House of Commons.

Unsurprisingly, taking away the right to a free vote on any matter is something that does not sit well with many Canadians, including pro-life and pro-choice voters, who would like to see MPs empowered. Trudeau used his platform Monday night as an opportunity to rebuff this legitimate criticism.

“…It is based on a value judgment about whose freedom is more important: that of an MP elected as a Liberal, or that of Canadian women… For Liberals, the right of a woman to control her body is more important than the right of a legislator to restrict her freedom with [his or her] vote. MPs who disagree with that have other choices,” he said. 

This is rich. Trudeau is trying to have his cake and eat it too. You see, Canadians like the idea of electing MPs that matter, and want to have a real representative in Ottawa. That is why only a few months ago, Trudeau came out in favor of a private member’s bill called the Reform Act. In his support of the Reform Act, Trudeau said: “We believe MPs should be their community’s voice in Ottawa, not the Prime Minister’s voice in their community.”

Not so fast, Justin.  Should MPs be their community's voice in Ottawa, or should Liberal MPs be your voice in their communities? You simply can’t have it both ways.

And on abortion, this is not a black and white issue for most Canadians.  Sure there are strong advocates on both sides, but for many there are shades of grey. 

You see, many reasonable Canadians who consider themselves pro-choice oppose late term abortions.  How would a future MP who would like to see gestational limits, vote on a bill regarding this issue?  First, they should read the bill to understand it, unless of course they are elected as a Liberal, in which case, no need to even read the important legislation.  Their leader made up their minds for them well before the previous election.

And what about on the issue of gendercide?  On this matter, many “pro-choice” Canadians, including women, recoil at just the mention of this barbaric reality.  But as Trudeau told me last April, free of any emotion, this is a matter for discussion “between a women and the health professionals she encounters.”

In light of the real controversy that Justin Trudeau’s speech caused on Monday night, it is easy to overlook many of the other themes that he talked about.  But it would be a shame if we were to overlook the would-be prime minister justifying eroding the responsibilities and rights of members of Parliament.

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commented 2015-10-03 00:18:52 -0400
“…For Liberals, the right of a woman to control her body is more important than the right of a legislator to restrict her freedom…”
This is the feminist’s call to murder babies. When will it end? Certainly not with little ashiest Trudeau JR.
commented 2015-09-17 23:05:47 -0400
Well said Garry
commented 2015-05-01 17:36:43 -0400
An unborn child is NOT a woman’s body! It is a separate life inside her body!
When are the liberal idiots going to discover the scientific facts about human reproduction? The birds and the bees stories are all they know or understand, the facts about pregnancy and the individuality of the human unborn are utter darkness to them.
Killing in the name of parental convenience is utterly disgusting and this nation is deeply guilty of the murders of millions.
The most hypocritical despicable thing of all is that we allow the murder of our own progeny, no problem, simply by redefining what they are, using non-factual nonsense arguments – all while complaining that the population is aging and we need more births!!
Its enough to make one vomit. How about we gather all the mutilated, dismembered corpses of all the babies Canada has murdered in the name of convenience, and force all the death lovers to sit on the pile for a few days until the stench of their insane beliefs finally reaches their on HOLD brains.
Pro-choice my arse – that is nothing but a lame deceptive euphemism. It should be called Pro-Death, Pro-Murder. Pro Killing. THAT is what it really is.
commented 2015-03-14 16:24:08 -0400
Right on Gerry!
The Liberals tried the intellectual approach with Stephane Dion, who studied political science, has a B.A. and a Masters and is an author. Then came Michael Ignatieff with his M.A. and PHD from Harvard. Followed by Bob Rae, who received a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford and has a law degree. But the Liberals just couldn’t win with these guys.
Now they have exchanged guys with brains for what they perceive as charisma. Yes, Trudeau has a B.A. and has been a math and French teacher. But they didn’t vote to anoint him leader of the Liberal party for his brains. His handlers already know that he is as dumb as a post. But they really want to get back to the troff. It’s his youthful good looks and his perceived name value that’s going to do it for them. The sad situation is that so many have been sucked in by such a shallow man and such a shallow approach.
As I have said before, the debates should separate the men from the boys if they are given enough coverage. Just imagine a low brow like Justin debating Harper or even worse, leading the country and engaging in talks with Putin. The guy is totally out of his league.
Voice training and public speaking skills are helpful but useless if one doesn’t have any content. He would have blown himself up a long time ago if the liberal media would only start asking him some real questions instead of continuing to neglect the issues and continually throwing him softballs.
commented 2015-03-12 15:31:39 -0400
Mr. Trudeau is a cafeteria democrat, choosing whatever flavour trips his political palate to placate the demographics he feels will deliver him the necessary votes to attain his objective. His “big tent” talk is all hat and no cattle. A country that fails to defend its most vulnerable
is a country that has sealed its doom.
commented 2015-03-12 14:08:33 -0400
The failure to recognize the unborn child as human being is indeed an impediment with respect to it acquiring status as a person in the constitution. Women at least had that going for them when they were lobbying for their legal and social rights. I don’t think there would have been many politicians at that time dare suggest that woman was not human being.

Society continually seeks to devalue the lives of the unborn, creating its own definitions of humanity based on its distorted views of morality. The criminal code is more likely a reflection of this fact, not science.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn sums it up well, It is not because the truth is too difficult to see that we make mistakes… we make mistakes because the easiest and most comfortable course for us is to seek insight where it accords with our emotions – especially selfish ones.

commented 2015-03-12 01:43:36 -0400
Ken – While Canada’s Charter does not specifically define children before birth as human beings, the Charter is an inherently pro-life document. Sec. 7 states, “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.” The Charter does not say everyone except… Trudeau has often said that abortion is a Charter right. It is in fact a Charter violation. The reason unborn children can legally be killed in Canada is that the Criminal code says a child becomes a human being only when he or she has been fully born alive. This apparent statement of fact is based on 300 year old science yet the majority of politicians in this country, Harper included, failed to support a motion brought forward by Stephen Woodworth to re-examine this definition in the context of modern science. Unfortunately, many politicians are more compelled by false ideologies than by science.
commented 2015-03-11 20:46:42 -0400
Justin Trudeau professes to be a Catholic, yet he is in favour of abortion, gendercide, etc. and dictates to any Liberal MPs they must agree with him, or else. Now imagine all those Catholics out there who are either MPs or voters who would actually support him…..and not their Catholic beliefs. Imagine the power trip this is for Justin Trudeau to tell the Catholic Church that Catholics will follow him and not the Catholic Church. Justin..eternity is a long, long, long time. I think you meant to say you were raised Catholic, but then so were Stalin and Hitler.
commented 2015-03-11 19:02:18 -0400
Ken I’m on the same page with my personal feelings, I think the decision should rest with the parents, but the law should mandate them to the first trimester, and once you’ve had an ultrasound, then abortion should be off the table. These are my personal feelings, but the issue is always presented as all or nothing, for or against. I wish MPs could bring up some of these concerns without being black listed, open discussion, not from the laft I guess
commented 2015-03-11 18:26:34 -0400
Gender specific abortions single out unborn little girls who aught to be considered persons with, human rights and this is a rudimentary impediment to Justin Trudeau’s objective of achieving women’s rights and likewise human rights. No law can substitute for the failure of a nation’s constitution to acknowledge and recognize the unborn child (female or male) as a person. This omission from the constitution represents a fundamental violation of human rights that parallels a time in history when women were not recognized as persons with the same rights as men.

Ken Conrad
commented 2015-03-11 17:18:08 -0400
An Obama Clone.
commented 2015-03-11 12:47:04 -0400
One thing for sure I agree with about Fuzzy Hug-a-Thug ( j.t. ) is that he would be very damaging to this wonderful country…
commented 2015-03-11 12:37:39 -0400
Thank you for bringing this to light Marissa. It is obvious that Trudeau believes HE is the AUTHORITY on EVERYTHING in Canada and everyone working with (for) him MUST dote on him and do what he asks. In his favorite countries the Leaders that he adores are what most of the world considers Authoritarian or Totalitarian Dictators.
I have never been able to figure out how the Left can constantly claim, falsely, that Stephen Harper “is a dictator”, yet do not see the true Authoritarian Leaders they voted for and who they believe will save them.
On the issue at hand; I believe life begins at conception, so abortion is murder but as a man I do not bear the responsibility of carrying and birthing a child so I do not believe I have the right to the final decision.
commented 2015-03-11 12:07:14 -0400
Spew one line of thinking out of one side of his mouth; then, spew another line of thought out of the other side. JT speaks from both sides of his mouth. He speaks with a forked tongue. This is what makes him dangerous if he were to become Prime Minister. He professes to uphold our rights and freedom of choice; then forbids his MP’s from voting “freedom of conscience”. He proclaims far and wide that all Liberal nominations are going to be open and free. And look at what happened with that. He is the consummate drama “queen” playing for the cameras.
commented 2015-03-11 10:13:08 -0400
Harper is just as bad shutting down desent. Just ask Chuck Cadman. This is the whole problem with parties. MP’s forced to vote party lines or else. BS. Do away with parties. Surely there are enough like minded people who could pass good laws and still be able to live with their conscious.
commented 2015-03-11 05:39:11 -0400
Shout it from the rooftops………“Justin Trudeau is, without a doubt, THE most dangerous man in Canada.”
commented 2015-03-11 04:44:37 -0400
Justin Trudeau is so far left he make Mulcair look conservative. Scary!
commented 2015-03-11 03:19:23 -0400
Joan, you are right. After all Trudeau said he did admire China’s “basic dictatorship”. He just wants his own all encompassing one.
commented 2015-03-11 02:43:59 -0400
Justin Trudeau is repugnant, just like the ridiculous words he spews. I used to think that Ignatief was bad, this guy has him beat by a mile. I guess he is not going to shut up until he loses.
commented 2015-03-10 23:36:08 -0400
Nothing’s changing. He’s still an idiot!
commented 2015-03-10 23:10:01 -0400
God forbid this man ever becomes the PM. We’ll be doomed for sre
commented 2015-03-10 22:36:50 -0400
I agree, Marissa, that Trudeau’s dictatorial attitude toward not just MPs but constituent voices must not be swept under any carpet.

I value legislation written by representatives of our communities freely nominated as candidates, elected by constituents, and accountable to the electorate.

I want to be free to petition my MP to effect law. I want a voice in Ottawa.

Our vote is meaningless if leaders not only hand pick whom we can vote for but also dictate how they can vote on legislation. That robs the electorate of all power. It’s how China does things.

It’s a dictatorship.
commented 2015-03-10 22:25:39 -0400
The Liberal Party is “supposed” to be the middle of the road party, but Trudeau has swung it so far left that party members will have to be collectively treated for whiplash. If the can get a hospital bed in a timely fashion.