January 18, 2019

Open and transparent Liberals bar Rebel Media from Environment Town Hall

David MenziesMission Specialist

The federal Liberals like to claim they’re all about transparency and openness, but in yet another incident barring the Rebel Media from an event that was advertised as open to the public, they demonstrated they’re all talk.


Liberal MP for Parkdale-High Park, Arif Virani, who happened to be one of the 126 delegates that attended the UN Climate Change Conference in Poland on the taxpayer dime, staged a town hall focusing on climate change and putting a price on “carbon pollution.”

So, last Wednesday we visited the Swansea Town Hall so we could at least find out what Mr. Virani had learned in Poland.

But it was déjà vu all over again when once again, Rebel Media was barred from an event open to the public despite other media being present.

I guess they were part of Justin Trudeau’s “approved” – a.k.a., bought and paid for media.

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commented 2019-01-22 01:33:53 -0500
Yes, you could. I could quote, for example,

“they shall surely be put to death” – a term that appears, several times, verbatim in Leviticus – as evidence that Christianity is a murderous, bloodthirsty religion.

The broader context, of course, is lost if I do that. It’s the gays and the “necromancers” that God is telling you to put to death, which changes the meaning of the phrase entirely.

By the way, Al, are you being a good Christian? Have you put any gays to death lately?
commented 2019-01-21 20:28:56 -0500
I did read them. Falls into the same trap as others do, of not presenting the entire set of verses leading to misleading conclusions.
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And yet no one ever refutes that this is what it says. The koran doesn’t give much in the way of context since it is more or less a compilation of sayings. Feel free to enlighten us on the true meaning.

You could do the same thing with other religious texts, if you wanted to. ___________________________________________________
Actually you can’t because the Bible never says to do so. Nor do another scripture that I am aware of. And here again you keep believing lies even when they are shown to be so. Just like the lie that babies are parasites. And this from a self proclaimed scientist. A lie through and through but you believe it anyway.
commented 2019-01-21 19:38:49 -0500
“And yet your antifa pals get free rein when all they are doing is disturbing the proceedings. They are not reporting at all in any way. "

“Antifa” aren’t my pals, I do not condone their violence, and… they weren’t there. Further, this is a false equivalency, they don’t even purport to be a media outlet.

“Why do you leftists want to believe and promulgate lies? You never answer that. Howza bout it? "

Told ya, Al. That’s a complex question predicated on an unsupported premise. I don’t.

“Yeah, that you die step-in god the toes of the IPCC approved sell outs.”

The IPCC is primarily a political organization. I agree that the hyperbole is not helpful, however, it does not refute the underlying data.

“But I know you won’t read them because that would require you make a paradigm shift which you are not willing to do. Easier just to believe lies. Why is it you want to do that? "

I did read them. Falls into the same trap as others do, of not presenting the entire set of verses leading to misleading conclusions. You could do the same thing with other religious texts, if you wanted to.

“and were making our claims based on science. Shall I go back and dig them up for your continued public humiliation? Since when does science rely on metaphor? You really are getting desperate in your search for comforting lies”

Science communications depends extensively on simile and metaphor, since the actual jargon gets very hard to understand to someone without existing knowledge of a process, very rapidly. Let’s say I study DNA polymerase (which I did) which copies DNA when a cell divides. We say it has proofreading abilities that allows it to correct most mutations – that’s an anthropomorphic metaphor, it’s not actually proofreading the way you or I would.

“If babies are not parasites then they are being murdered by abortion. No one has the right to take the life of an innocent. No amount of lying, distortion or mental and legal gymnastics will change that. "

Big IF. Frankly, I understand it’s controversial. Fortunately we have a system in Canada that allows me to believe what I want to, and you to believe what you want to, and act accordingly. I can’t tell you what to do with your uterus, and you, mine. Pretty simple system, no?

“You truly are wanting to believe lies- like babies are parasites. Why is that? That was hardly empirically verifiable.”
Philosophical question, and naturally subjective. Therefore, I defer the decision to others.

‘What with the Mennonites murdering and raping and throwing acid in people’s faces and killing people by driving them down on the streets"
What proportion of Muslims do that, Al? Try to give us a quantative estimate. I’m not thinking in terms of what you think their text tells them to do … but rather, what proportion of Muslims have actually murdered and/or raped someone?

BTW, What’s the dominant religion in the country the Toronto van attacker came from?

I think, in particular, of the theocratic opposition to individual freedoms. I don’t want to live in a Christian country. I am not Christian, I do not want to live under the oppression of mandatory morality.

“And again, the RCMP have no reason to think that a Rebel reporter will cause any problem given the fact fact they never have”
Yes, they do. I’m sure you’ve seen the occasional threats made against politicians around here. That does not go unnoticed by intelligence agencies. Perhaps it is unfair to project the will of an occasionally extreme individual, onto a whole group of people?
commented 2019-01-21 12:42:03 -0500
All these commies are using their favorite tactic called Truthification-you still can’t fix stupid!!!
commented 2019-01-21 11:04:12 -0500
Historically speaking, the FIRST step to becoming a socialist dictatorship is to silence the media, especially the media that does not support the government. How else can you mislead the population and begin convincing them that what they hear is the truth unless you decide what truth is?
Tell a lie long enough and people will believe it.
commented 2019-01-21 09:24:39 -0500
Andrew….ya my numbers were off I should have stated that 100% of the studies that come from the UN are BS just like climate change. I work in heavy equipment and love watching the diesel plume roll out of the exhaust when the machines under load-what a beautiful sight!! Keeping on burning diesel.
commented 2019-01-21 02:26:20 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 5 hours ago
“Nowhere does the OT tell Jews- nor the NT tell Christians- to kill people simply because they are unbelievers. The Koran does. "

Where? The commonly cited passages all seem to actually refer to self defense.
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Here. 109 verses.

. https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

But I know you won’t read them because that would require you make a paradigm shift which you are not willing to do. Easier just to believe lies. Why is it you want to do that?
commented 2019-01-21 02:21:31 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON
You claimed that, yes, by taking a sternly literal interpretation that makes no allowance for metaphor. I disagree, but it is irrelevant anyway, it is not your or my right to make that decision for other people.
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Ah… you just claimed to be a scientist-

“I am a scientist who reserves her effort for the empirically observable.”

and were making our claims based on science. Shall I go back and dig them up for your continued public humiliation? Since when does science rely on metaphor? You really are getting desperate in your search for comforting lies.

If babies are not parasites then they are being murdered by abortion. No one has the right to take the life of an innocent. No amount of lying, distortion or mental and legal gymnastics will change that.

You truly are wanting to believe lies- like babies are parasites. Why is that? That was hardly empirically verifiable.
commented 2019-01-21 02:14:24 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON
I don’t claim moral equivalency, since I don’t believe in such things. I do believe in individual freedom of religion. I have no fear of any religion but evangelical Christianity, by far the biggest present threat to our rights and freedoms.
________________________________________________________________________________Yeah, I know how you feel. What with the Mennonites murdering and raping and throwing acid in people’s faces and killing people by driving them down on the streets and blowing them up with suicide vests, and performing FGM and throwing gays off of buildings.

None of this happens in Europe. Victor Lazlo’s daily reports are just skits acted out by right wingers to pad their claims. The sats that Maurice post are just fabrications as well.

It would deem that you do hold to moral equivalency since you are forever telling us that Christians are just as bad but can somehow never show any stats to prove that claim.

Yup, you have really based your opinions on the facts, Say, why do you lefties want to believe and promulgate lies anyway? You never answer this simple question> I wonder why??
commented 2019-01-21 02:05:55 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 1 hour ago
Sheldon,
Youi’d be a lot more credible if you didn’t just make numbers up…
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Yeah, that you die step-in god the toes of the IPCC approved sell outs. After all the world is going to end in another 5 or 7 or 10 years. Just like last time. Of course if you’re an evolutionist it is of no consequence. We just didn’t make the Natural Selection team. Better luck next time.
commented 2019-01-21 02:00:56 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 4 hours ago

Why were they going there? Several outlets had feeds, and another feed adds virtually nothing if you’re there in a purely passive role.
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So, how many news feeds should be allowed? Who decides who they should be? Should the government decide these things? You really are desperately seeking comforting lies.

In practise the RCMP reads these comments and, my guess is, as in the yellow-vest facebook group, doesn’t want to take the risk of potentially deranged individuals attending.
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And yet your antifa pals get free rein when all they are doing is disturbing the proceedings. They are not reporting at all in any way. Interesting how your argument morphs from one thing to another. You start by claiming they will cause a disruption which they have never done and then , when you are proven illogical, you shift away to the RCMP instigating a police state which seems to suit you leftists just fine. And again, the RCMP have no reason to think that a Rebel reporter will cause any problem given the fact fact they never have ,You are desperately seeking comforting lies, Why?

Why do you leftists want to believe and promulgate lies? You never answer that. Howza bout it?
commented 2019-01-21 01:12:12 -0500
Andrew Stephenson show me how the Rebel does this and other media does not halfwit! And it is illegal for unions to tell members how to vote , but keep your ignorance spewing. And tell me why there was no due process? Because they had no REAL case. You go support your fascist pigs, they will not win and even if they did you would not be in any position above us anyways.
commented 2019-01-21 01:09:31 -0500
Andrew Stephenson sorry but asking questions the left does not like is not agitating anything. Now go praise all the real reporters who stalked Rob Ford and made his driveway a circus, that is very professional LMAO!
commented 2019-01-21 01:05:34 -0500
Nicholas Conklin they are scared of real questions just like all lefties. Now go be transparent LMAO!
commented 2019-01-21 01:03:16 -0500
Andrew Stephenson the Global Warming BS is made up.
commented 2019-01-21 00:34:35 -0500
Sheldon,

Youi’d be a lot more credible if you didn’t just make numbers up…
commented 2019-01-20 23:42:55 -0500
Yeah and 90% of the climate science studies come from the corrupt UN to further their political/economic agenda-a bunch of hogwash from the enviro dopes !!
commented 2019-01-20 23:12:05 -0500
Moving this one forward..
commented 2019-01-20 21:26:18 -0500
“You are assuming they will do this when they have never done so before. Why not wait to see how they behave and then deal with it at that point? Because that is not the issue. Silencing opposing points of view is the issue. "

Why were they going there? Several outlets had feeds, and another feed adds virtually nothing if you’re there in a purely passive role.

In practise the RCMP reads these comments and, my guess is, as in the yellow-vest facebook group, doesn’t want to take the risk of potentially deranged individuals attending.
commented 2019-01-20 21:21:11 -0500
“Nowhere does the OT tell Jews- nor the NT tell Christians- to kill people simply because they are unbelievers. The Koran does. "

Where? The commonly cited passages all seem to actually refer to self defense.
“do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them” 2:191.

I have more knowledge of the Bible than I really need. I am a scientist who reserves her effort for the empirically observable.

What is your biggest critique of the Bible?

“There is no irony.
Conservatives learn from their mistakes. Lefties don’t. Even after proving to you that babies are not by any definition, parasites, you are still in favour of abortion. "

You claimed that, yes, by taking a sternly literal interpretation that makes no allowance for metaphor. I disagree, but it is irrelevant anyway, it is not your or my right to make that decision for other people.

“Conservatives exercise discernment and refuse to parrot clap trap about moral equivalency of all religions. Notice, that inspite of the fact I am a Christian I do not have a hate on for Hindus or Buddhists? I disagree with them but they pose no great threat to me or society. We get along just fine. But I do have a totally rational fear of Islam”

“What’s happening in Europe” is … not much. In most cases the right wing media has posted a distorted view of reality supported by very selective reporting of crimes. If you only report crimes perpetuated by immigrants, then of course it will look like they’re criminals. As in the US, most crime is by domestic residents, even if the reporting doesn’t reflect that.

I don’t claim moral equivalency, since I don’t believe in such things. I do believe in individual freedom of religion. I have no fear of any religion but evangelical Christianity, by far the biggest present threat to our rights and freedoms.

“And I might add:”…
As is your prerogative, although the point you try to make seems predicated on your own preconceptions rather than an objective assessment of the fundamental assumption underlying that statement.

“Why do you and other lefties want to believe and promulgate lies? "

We don’t. We believe what actually exists, not what we want to exist.

Ah, where would we be without the complex question to end off with?
commented 2019-01-20 18:27:28 -0500
NICHOLAS CONKLIN commented 5 hours ago
Al Peterson,

That standard definition doesn’t negate the real world fact that those who run/put on public events still have a terms, conditions and rules regarding the event and can not allow or toss out anyone they feel will impact the event negatively for others.


That’s the thing about your Nick. You turn and twist and ignore whatever does not suit your preconceived ideas. If all those conditions are placed on a gathering then it is not “public” by definition. It is called the law of non-contradiction. Something cannot both be true and untrue in the same sense and at the same time. It is either public or it isn’t, Aristotle.


The same would apply to a public Rebel event. If I showed up and started calling out Ezra and The Rebel – I would absolutely be told to leave and escorted out if I didn’t.
-——————————————————————————————————————————————————But the Rebee has never done this. How do you know this is what they intend to do? You don’t. If they interrupted and yelled out (like your leftist antics thugs do) then, yes they should be removed. But you have made another logical fallacious error here . You are assuming the point at issue. You are assuming they will do this when they have never done so before. Why not wait to see how they behave and then deal with it at that point? Because that is not the issue. Silencing opposing points of view is the issue.

Leftist like to believe and promulgate lies so they refuse to risk having a contrary point of view or inconvenient question asked no matter how civilly it is done.
commented 2019-01-20 18:04:52 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 2 hours ago
“Alberta Maga commented 20 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson your commies are getting more and more fascist”

Do you disagree that the Rebel is engaging in political advertising, and should fall under the laws pertaining to such?

Idolatry is dealt with comparably in the Old Testament, upon which the Quran is heavily based.
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We weren’t talking about idolatry. We were talking about unbelievers. Always the leftwing dodge. Christians ( and certainly Jews) are not idolaters yet the koran does tell the faithful to kill or enslave them. anyway.

Most of those instances were against Israel as the people of God for breaking the Covenant they had made with Him. He told them that was the penalty for doing so. They chose to make the covenant. They were not forced.

The killing Canaanites was because they were incredibly wicked to the point of indulging in child sacrifice (Worth remembering Mr_Babies-Are-Parasites).

Nowhere does the OT tell Jews- nor the NT tell Christians- to kill people simply because they are unbelievers. The Koran does.


.I suggest you actually read your holy text…
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I’ve got my Master’s Degree in Biblical Studies so I have read it plenty. That comment is rich coming form someone who could put all they know about the Bible into a thimble with plenty of room left over. Perhaps you should learn how to read literature.

which is quite generous in the use of violence, instead of babbling about “three pillars of leftiedom”, which you seem to use without any sense of irony.


There is no irony.
Conservatives learn from their mistakes. Lefties don’t. Even after proving to you that babies are not by any definition, parasites, you are still in favour of abortion.

Conservatives learn from the mistakes of others like those happening in Europe with their moral equivalence for islam. Lefties refuse to see that those muslims that you love are on a murderous rampage out of all proportion to their numbers and have been for 1400 years.

Conservatives exercise discernment and refuse to parrot clap trap about moral equivalency of all religions. Notice, that inspite of the fact I am a Christian I do not have a hate on for Hindus or Buddhists? I disagree with them but they pose no great threat to me or society. We get along just fine.

But I do have a totally rational fear of Islam. So your blanket accusations about hatred and racism hold no water. Of course you’re a lefty and cannot understand discernment we’ve when it is explained to you.

dis·cern·ment (dĭ-sûrn′mənt)
n.
1. The act or process of exhibiting keen insight and good judgment.
2. Keenness of insight and judgment.

And I might add:
3. that element of perspicaciousness that is totally lacking in those of left wing political and social persuasion.

So answer the question, please:

Why do you and other lefties want to believe and promulgate lies?
commented 2019-01-20 16:17:21 -0500
NFL boycott is going well, then hmm?
commented 2019-01-20 15:41:04 -0500
Sorry you lefties I would love to respond to your drivel but I have a Saints/Rams game to watch. Catch you commies later haha!!
commented 2019-01-20 15:33:11 -0500
“Alberta Maga commented 20 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson your commies are getting more and more fascist”

Do you disagree that the Rebel is engaging in political advertising, and should fall under the laws pertaining to such?

Al Peterson: "So as listed before, none of these religions command their followers to kill or enslave unbelievers: Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Bahais, Mormons, Hindus, nor Zoroastrians.

One does: Islam."

Idolatry is dealt with comparably in the Old Testament, upon which the Quran is heavily based. I suggest you actually read your holy text, which is quite generous in the use of violence, instead of babbling about “three pillars of leftiedom”, which you seem to use without any sense of irony.

Most Muslims do not interpret the Quran literally, any more than you interpret the Old Testament literally. Again, they are not a monolithic bloc, no matter how much you try to project the actions of a very few extremists on the entire religion.

“Al Peterson commented 19 hours ago
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 5 hours ago
Are they planning to be passive observers, or agitate and hijack?
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Has a Rebel Reporter ever done this?”

Faith Goldy, at Charlottesville. She was taunting the crowds just before that guy drove his car into the crowd. (oh, wait, can we follow your strategy of projecting the worst of Christianity on the entire religion for that one? I know, blah blah blah three pillars etc, whatever strawman you need to avoid the actual point).
commented 2019-01-20 15:21:57 -0500
“Sheldon Eisler commented 23 hours ago
Andrew you and your skewed socialist views will eventually come to a dead end,are you guys that stupid that you would actually allow Islam to come into this country and dictate to us how our laws should be”

Sorry, don’t buy the slippery slope arguments. If they want a specific option for arbitration then that’s their prerogative, since adding options doesn’t’ diminish existing ones.

“liza Rosie commented 22 hours ago
And I should answer your dumb questions because Why Andrew. Why should I discuss a game plan with you? "

Ah, I’ve heard that one before. I’m sure you do have a game plan and the complete lack of evidence that one exists, is due to deliberate withholding rather than actually not existing. No politician has ever tried that one before.

“Alberta Maga commented 20 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson we are not pushing hate. Your ignorance is outstanding. Sorry but legitimate criticism is not hate , nor are legitimate concerns about our countries security.”

No ,hate is hate, and hate posing as “legitimate criticism” is still hate. Legitimate criticism has to be against things that actually exist, which generic stereotype-based platitudes about certain religious groups do not. Muslims are not a monolithic group and it verges into hate when you condemn them all on the misbehaviour of a few of them, as if they were.