October 27, 2016

Open and transparent? Trudeau defends secrecy on ISIS military mission briefings

Brian LilleyArchive

Another day, another example of Liberal hypocrisy, this time as Prime Minister Trudeau defends his government’s decision to hold only one media briefing on fighting ISIS in Iraq since he changed the mission earlier this year.

Conservative Leader Rona Ambrose raised the issue in the House of Commons and Trudeau blew it off as protecting Canadian troops and their security over a communications exercise.

Funny, that wasn’t Trudeau’s position when he was in opposition. Back then, he called on Prime Minister Harper to lay out his whole plan to Parliament ahead of a vote on expanding the mission.

Opposition Trudeau wanted openness and transparency, in fact he campaigned on those issues non-stop during last year’s elections, but he’s been anything but open and transparent since.

We’ve gone from regular briefings when the Conservatives were in charge to one since Trudeau changed the mission.

Meanwhile we’re finding out on social media and from our American allies that Canadian troops on the ground to train Kurdish and Iraqi forces, are actually on the front line in the fight to retake Mosul, but Trudeau won’t say.

He claims security, and I completely get what the military calls OPSEC, Operational Security, meaning you don’t talk about things that can get your troops killed. But that doesn’t mean you refuse to say anything.

There is a way to keep the public informed and the troops safe. Does anyone else remember the regular updates from American General Stormin’ Norman Schwarzkopf who provided regular briefings on coalition movements in the Gulf war to push Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait.

It can and should be done while keeping our troops safe. My guess is Trudeau knows parts of this mission, or perhaps all of it, are unpopular with his left wing base so he wants to keep it out of sight and out of mind.

He doesn’t want the regular beat of news stories that could hurt him with left wing voters.

But Trudeau called for Harper to be open and was part of a party that called in Parliament for the release of top secret documents dealing with Taliban prisoners in Afghanistan during that war.

Despite his utter hypocrisy he cannot call for one thing in opposition and do another in government.

Trudeau should do the right thing and let the Canadian people know what our troops are doing in our name.

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commented 2016-10-30 15:26:26 -0400
SEAN PENSON proclaimed: “Common MPs should have NO say in this matter; this is exclusively an executive policy, and the common masses have no say WHATEVER.”

More musing from the resident fascist!
commented 2016-10-29 17:22:53 -0400
We must remember that Baby Doc may not have been included in the decision part of the exercise. Butts and a few generals get together and make the decisions. Baby Doc is told what to say. That is the whole story.

Even if told, would Baby Doc even understand? Remember his supercilious comment that Russia invaded the Crimea because Ukraine beat Russia in hockey? That is about his level of understanding.

Telling Canadians that our troops are included in the front line against ISIS would be sufficient to keep us informed and without stating where and when. Besides, the US government can’t keep its mouth closed so the information is already public.
commented 2016-10-29 17:14:15 -0400
Everyone should be ignoring the two lady trolls, Ms Sean and Ms Jay. If it is high noon, they will say it isn’t. They will do anything to get a rise out of people here.

From Wikipedia: Psychological characteristics of trolls
“Researcher Ben Radford wrote about the phenomenon of clowns in history and modern day in his book Bad Clowns and found that bad clowns have evolved into Internet trolls. They do not dress up as traditional clowns, but for their own amusement, they tease and exploit “human foibles” in order to speak the “truth” and gain a reaction. Like clowns in make-up, Internet trolls hide behind “anonymous accounts and fake usernames.” In their eyes they are the trickster and are performing for a nameless audience via the Internet."
commented 2016-10-28 15:08:20 -0400
Meanwhile as a side note, I’m watching Hillary badmouth Trump at an Iowa rally, knowing full well the FBI has re-opened her email investigation. As my stomach turns.What a **NT.

commented 2016-10-28 13:57:00 -0400
Again. Penson has not freed his brain from its dark dank rectal locale -

A) Trudeau has only the support of 36% of 60% who bothered to vote – so the reality is he has only the support of an 18% minority of the Canadian electorate. Not really a mandate to go to war without approval – by law he must seek approval to go to engage in military conflict – he did not – contempt of parliament is inapplicable here because this is a constitutional breach.

And Harper is not around to blame any more. You can’t judge Trudeau by any other standard than those he set for himself – and he has violated the standards he set for governing.

You will see these realities some day when you dislodge your cranium from its current rectal location
commented 2016-10-28 13:28:32 -0400
Sean, if most Canadians decided to commit suicide would you join them? That’s what we are doing letting the muslims invade us. So why prolong the inevitable? Get on with it. Most Canadians are.
commented 2016-10-28 13:09:22 -0400
@glen Craig…. I love your response to Penson, and jt is such slime.

Dump Justin
commented 2016-10-28 13:06:20 -0400
Weren’t the Liberals bitching when the Conservatives were doing something similar?
commented 2016-10-28 12:07:27 -0400
Sean Penson-“lovingly supported” I have news for you-this is NOT so.
What in blazes are you smoking???
commented 2016-10-28 05:55:33 -0400
@sean Penson…nobody stays elected forever….and just wait until Justin whimps out on legalizing pot because that would offend the UN…..Hell hath no fury like a gullible youth vote scorned….even though the CBC will go into Reefer Madness mode and publish article after article on how pot is bad for you in an effort to smoke screen Justin….I have seen this play out twice before…which is why I was not fooled by his promise…he knows he is in no danger of having to keep it.
commented 2016-10-28 03:42:33 -0400
Billy Elder: Well, Harper was ruled in contempt of parliament how many times? Justin is still lovingly supported by most Canadians. We never had votes for deploying the troops under Harper!
commented 2016-10-28 01:16:21 -0400
Goatsucker sorry man i do not swing that way. I am sure you can find some other guy to pleasure you in that way though.
commented 2016-10-28 00:51:44 -0400
Penson, once again, is talking out his rectum because of the location in which his brain finds itself – unless under national emergency deployment od Canadian troops MUST be a matter for house discussion – if they are deployed in a war zone without any formal declaration of war by parliament, the PM has breached protocol and is answerable to house investigation for censure.

All I can say is you certainly should go back to whatever match book cover “college?” which allowed you to graduate in basket weaving and get your money back.
commented 2016-10-28 00:41:27 -0400
Al – you don’t have to be a conservative to be allergic to BS – but it helps ;-)
commented 2016-10-27 23:11:25 -0400
Another heapin’ helpin’ of the mushroom treatment: Keep them in the dark and feed ’em BS. Lefties love it. Conservatives hate it.
commented 2016-10-27 22:52:52 -0400
Great piece Brian. I often wonder how you guys dig up those old pieces like that.

To me, the most important part was when Trudeau said the PM has a “sacred duty”. Beautiful!! I’m downloading this and will be using it against him in a court of law!
commented 2016-10-27 22:31:12 -0400
BRIAN , I know when you show a clip of IT standing up and spouting off — because it’s 2016 , that you will show an equal and opposite clip from another year
The hypocracy is rich
commented 2016-10-27 22:05:13 -0400
Justin should do the right thing and abort retroactively. Evil Whore
commented 2016-10-27 21:36:26 -0400
Glenn Craig, Um, the Liberals are government now, not opposition! Anything goes now, as Harper is toast
commented 2016-10-27 20:44:20 -0400
Hey Drew I’m looking for you.

Why would an asshole like you who clearly has no brains be searching for someone that has brains? Oh, I think I saw a video the other day with you and those goats you mention.
commented 2016-10-27 20:21:05 -0400
@sean Penson…they did when the liberals were in opposition.
commented 2016-10-27 20:18:44 -0400
Hey Drew I’m looking for you.
commented 2016-10-27 20:08:17 -0400
Soon the truth of this evil kuffar who strikes out against the true jihad and Allah’s appointed Caliph BIGDADDY…will be made manifest…and even though he pays lip service with his poorly auditioned conversion ritual…..it is evident by his bar bill submitted to the evil kuffar treasury board that he has scorned the Prophet’s edict on alcohoL..and even though he has bowed his knees in a mosque and payed the jizzha in spades…..he secretly deploys crusaders to oppose Allahs true jihadhis…..may 1000 camels offal in his path to Mecca………:-)
commented 2016-10-27 20:06:00 -0400
Common MPs should have NO say in this matter; this is exclusively an executive policy, and the common masses have no say WHATEVER.
commented 2016-10-27 19:52:44 -0400
Trudeau should do the right thing and resign!
commented 2016-10-27 19:21:45 -0400
Poor JT, UN made him send Canadian Soldiers to fight his ISIS friends, never mind Justin, you will get over it.
commented 2016-10-27 19:18:16 -0400
I can agree with hipocrisy, but it’s good to keep things on the down low. However it’s after the fact of mission critiques that should be explained in parliament. Unlike the US that seems to tell the enemy what they are going to do before they do it.

The most incredible part of all is if you don’t play the way the liberals want you too, the CBC won’t go after the military for war crimes.

Trudeau and his cabinet will always be at the kids table when dealing internationally on all aspects.

I was deployed overseas in the seventies and those files are still redacted from veteran affairs. Therefore I can never make a claim. Must be something with these Trudeaus and the military, that they feel the need to keep things very secretive.
commented 2016-10-27 18:44:30 -0400
Can we block Cynthia Hoag somehow?I don’t come hear for spam.That’s worse than seeing Penson every day.
commented 2016-10-27 18:44:29 -0400
Can we block Cynthia Hoag somehow?I don’t come hear for spam.That’s worse than seeing Penson every day.
commented 2016-10-27 18:37:39 -0400
It looks like the US/UK war hawks have Tater tot by his pubes and are calling in the debt -

At the conclusion of the NATO summit in Wales two years ago, all countries signed a declaration reaffirming collective defence, after Russia’s aggression in Ukraine, and agreeing to increase defence spending to two per cent of gross domestic product within a decade.

In the summit in Warsaw this summer, the Brits indicated they are POed at, no defense spending progress being made by smaller NATO countries,but primarily Canada. London sent the message through embassies and high commissions and Canada was the main recipient of the NATO blast of shite.

Earier this year the Trudeau government was excluded from a U.S.-led meeting of defence ministers from countries spearheading the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. U.S. Defence Secretary Ashley Carter warned allies that there was no room for “free-riders” in the coalition.

The Pentagon is now giving Tater Tot a titty-twist about putting boots on the ground in Mosul – so in typical Turdoo style he lied about it and got his lapdog CBC to spike the story