January 27, 2018

PC party regime change brings hope but will “Liberal-Lite” status quo remain?

David MenziesMission Specialist

 

Two questions arise in light of Patrick Brown’s dramatic resignation after still unproven allegations of sexual misconduct made against him:

Who will be the new leader and how will he or she be selected? And, will the PCs continue drifting left of centre, ignoring grassroots members as was the case under Brown?

Thousands of social, fiscal and democratic conservatives have abandoned the party, and can you blame them?

It began with his support for a Trudeau-style carbon tax despite campaigning against one, and then he flip-flopped on the Liberals’ sex-ed curriculum.

Then came allegations of fraud and ballot box stuffing at nomination meetings to ensure PC Party insiders and friends won, as opposed to candidates favoured by the grassroots.

Perhaps driven by fear and paranoia, the PCs have conducted legalistic vendettas against members who rock the boat or ask uncomfortable questions, like the witch-hunt against Jim Karahalios, who headed the “Axe the Carbon Tax” and “Take Back Our PC Party" campaigns.

Hope abounds when it comes to regime change, but will the status quo change? If not, talk about a missed opportunity.

Over 15 years, the governing Liberals led by a very unpopular premier, have excelled at scandals and multi-billion dollar boondoggles.

The PCs should be offering a viable alternative to the electorate – not marketing themselves as “Liberal-Lite.”

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commented 2018-01-29 08:31:43 -0500
Now PC Party President Rick Dykstra has resigned over sexual allegations. As I noted in prior post,the PC Ontario party is rotten to the core because it has embraced people that in no way represent conservative values.
Clear the lot of them out and start over.
commented 2018-01-29 04:06:16 -0500
Is it too late to persuade Mike Harris to give up his comfy ice fishing hole on Lake Nipissing and enter the fray once again?… He’s 73 now, but probably has more “balls and sense” than a dozen other would-be OPC pretenders… Speaking of “balls” I think it’s a bit late in the game to expect Scheer to grow any…
commented 2018-01-28 22:57:37 -0500
With Rona Ambrose in Ontario, Jason Kenney in Alberta, Andrew Scheer’s position would be strengthened. He’s not strong enough on his own. With two experienced veterans in provincial leadership, his chances for a federal win have increased.
commented 2018-01-28 21:08:53 -0500
liza rosie commented: Rona is a hell of a lot better looking than Wynne…….
So is my dog!
commented 2018-01-28 16:53:36 -0500
FLAT EARTH. .FLAT WATER commented 2018-01-28 02:31:56 -0500
I kinda like Johnny Horton… I like what his songs represent and I detest what Canadians have de-evolved into from our ancestors who were pioneers and settlers who carved a nation, a great nation from the wilderness. Let’s not make it easy for them who would give it away at our expense.!!!

Yes Flat Earth…It’s the spirit of the words and truth that must be heard and repeated if necessary…

Thanks for understanding the repeated posts….
commented 2018-01-28 11:29:34 -0500
Rona is a hell of a lot better looking than Wynne, and would be able to knock old crow out of the park I am sure. She probably will go along with what has been laid out already though, but you never know. Has she said she would?

FYI
march today and tomorrow against Justin’s insult to all Canadians.
Check link for locations and times
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUkcHbPXUAAvtYE.jpg
commented 2018-01-28 02:31:56 -0500
I kinda like Johnny Horton… I like what his songs represent and I detest what Canadians have de-evolved into from our ancestors who were pioneers and settlers who carved a nation, a great nation from the wilderness. Let’s not make it easy for them who would give it away at our expense.!!!
commented 2018-01-28 01:41:30 -0500
Gawd no , not Rona. She wouldn’t anyway.

…and annoying, makes for lots of scrolling, a lot of space for not. but that’s cool Rob. Its a free country.
commented 2018-01-28 00:20:53 -0500
RONA AMBROSE………..experienced, well respected on all levels.
Already knows the ropes and the audience, and the audience knows her.
commented 2018-01-27 23:39:28 -0500
Hey Mutta Ween..? You think my re post of the the Battle of New Orleans is silly??

Guess what..?? I don’t give a sh!t anymore!!

In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans

We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin’
There wasn’t nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they begin to runnin’
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
(One-two-three, with a-one-two-three)

We looked down a river
(Hut-two)
And we see’d the British come
(Three-four)
And there must have been a hundred of’em
(Hut-two)
Beatin’ on the drums
(Three-four)
They stepped so high
(Hut-two)
And they made their bugles ring
(Three-four)
We stood by our cotton bales
(Hut-two)
And didn’t say a thing
(Two-three-four)

We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin’
There wasn’t nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they begin to runnin’
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

Old Hickory said we could take ‘em by surprise
(One-hut, two-three-four)
If we didn’t fire our muskets
(One-hut, two-three-four)
‘Till we looked ’em in the eye
(One-hut, two-three-four)
We held our fire
(Hut, two-three-four)
’Till we see’d their faces well
Then we opened up our squirrel guns
And really gave ’em – well we

Fired our guns and the British kept a-comin’
There wasn’t nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they begin to runnin’
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

Yeah, they ran through the briars
(One-hup-two)
And they ran through the brambles
(Hup-two-three-four)
And they ran through the bushes
(Hup-two)
Where the rabbit couldn’t go
(Hup-two-three-four)
They ran so fast
(Hup-two)
That the hounds couldn’t catch ’em
(One-two-three-four)
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
(One-two, hup-two-three-four)

We fired our cannon ’til the barrel melted down
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round
We filled his head with cannon balls, and powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind

We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin’
There wasn’t nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they begin to runnin’
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

Yeah, they ran through the briars
(Hup-one-two)
And they ran through the brambles
(One-two-three-four)
And they ran through the bushes
(Hup-two)
Where the rabbit couldn’t go
(Hup-two-three-four)
They ran so fast
(Hup-two)
That the hounds couldn’t catch ’em
(One-two-three-four)
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico
(One-two, hup-two-three-four)

Hut-two-three-four
Sound off, three-four
Hut-two-three-four
Sound off, three-four
Hut-two-three-four
Hut-two-three-four.
commented 2018-01-27 22:13:25 -0500
Sounds like Dykstra and company should get the boot as well!
commented 2018-01-27 21:15:44 -0500
Hey Conservative party if you keep electing Liberals then this kind of thing happens except it matters more to the media since it is not a Liberal party member.
commented 2018-01-27 18:25:25 -0500
The people that run the party and control the money are the problem.They are responsible for Hudak ,Brown and the horrible policies and election management. If the same people are at the top,don’t expect anything different from the Progressive Conservatives.
First thing they can do is dump the Progressive moniker and become a true Conservative party.
commented 2018-01-27 16:59:21 -0500
Canadian’s need a independent non Politician to be the next Prime Minister of Canada….Otherwise Canada becomes a sh!thole….Who is going to step up? Just like President Trump did..
commented 2018-01-27 16:57:36 -0500
Billy Howard commented: "
Paul Mccullough said: “conservatives need to spend the $10 to join the party for a year & get their vote for leader in”

Unfortunately, Liberals and NDP have a history of unethical behavior insofar as encouraging their supporters to join opposing parties to rig leadership votes"

One suspects this is what happened at the Federal level……………
commented 2018-01-27 16:21:29 -0500
PAUL TAYLOR commented 2018-01-27 15:22:10 -0500
I’m glad to hear Brown has stepped down. Not because of the allegations but because the Ontario PC’s need a leader that connects with the right of center PC’s. Brown was a Liberal in every sense of the word. I would not have wasted my time voting for him.

Scheer either needs to step down or grow a pair if he’s going to defeat The Clown Prince. He’s too much like a Lieberal for my liking. With all the sh_t Trudeau has done and been caught at this is his time to grab Trudeau by the throat and let him know his days are numbered. No more Mr. Nice Guy, take Trudeau out any way you can.

Paul Taylor…I’m with you on this one Brother..

KEITH BARNES commented 2018-01-27 14:59:52 -0500
There are two kinds of Liberals, the misguided buffoons who vote for them and the degenerates who stand for election. The latter are either complete idiots or Traitors to their Country, the wannabe slime, just like the imbecile who thinks that he is a leader but is in fact a Mother F…..g Idiot. If or when he dies, I will make a special trip to his Grave and spit on it.

Keith Barnes…Yep….
commented 2018-01-27 15:47:37 -0500
After hours of debate in public and behind closed doors, PC Party president Rick Dykstra announced on Friday evening that the party’s executive will hold a race to elect a permanent leader by the end of March. Under party rules, it is the role of caucus to decide the interim leader, but the executive, which includes four caucus members in addition to other party officials, has the final call on timing of a leadership election. The executive could have opted to delay a race until after the general election
commented 2018-01-27 15:25:54 -0500
On last night’s show Ezra wondered about Carolyn Mulroney. Might be a good idea. With only 6 months until election they can’t spend a lot of time trying to get name recognition for their leader. I am surprised how top down the PC party is, where it appears that the leader and not the grassroots members set the policy. A short time available to define the policy of the party before the election. The Toronto Star has speculated that the NDP may be the beneficiary of the disarray in the PC party.
commented 2018-01-27 15:22:10 -0500
I’m glad to hear Brown has stepped down. Not because of the allegations but because the Ontario PC’s need a leader that connects with the right of center PC’s. Brown was a Liberal in every sense of the word. I would not have wasted my time voting for him.

Scheer either needs to step down or grow a pair if he’s going to defeat The Clown Prince. He’s too much like a Lieberal for my liking. With all the sh_t Trudeau has done and been caught at this is his time to grab Trudeau by the throat and let him know his days are numbered. No more Mr. Nice Guy, take Trudeau out any way you can.
commented 2018-01-27 14:59:52 -0500
There are two kinds of Liberals, the misguided buffoons who vote for them and the degenerates who stand for election. The latter are either complete idiots or Traitors to their Country, the wannabe slime, just like the imbecile who thinks that he is a leader but is in fact a Mother F…..g Idiot. If or when he dies, I will make a special trip to his Grave and spit on it.
commented 2018-01-27 14:11:21 -0500
Paul Mccullough said: “conservatives need to spend the $10 to join the party for a year & get their vote for leader in”

Unfortunately, Liberals and NDP have a history of unethical behavior insofar as encouraging their supporters to join opposing parties to rig leadership votes
commented 2018-01-27 14:00:23 -0500
The PC parties’ future depends on what they do now. Oppose Wynne’s agenda & they’ll win the next election. Continue as they’ve been going & they’ll be irrelevant. Ontario conservatives need to spend the $10 to join the party for a year & get their vote for leader in.
commented 2018-01-27 12:36:12 -0500
Patty don’t look so good.. kinda rough and unshaven. You know… like he hasn’t slept for days.
commented 2018-01-27 12:20:16 -0500
Ontario is in desperate need of another Winston Churchill, or better still another Enoch Powell. Let us get it ‘Right’ this time.
commented 2018-01-27 12:15:53 -0500
The new OntPC leader MUST promote real conservative policies and also promise to purge the party of those who don’t believe in democracy and conservative values. Or else the party will collapse (re: Kim Campbell PC meltdown).

(This comment and video copied to Gab (Twitter is passé) in topic “Ontario Election”)
commented 2018-01-27 12:04:10 -0500
Conservatives need to get the Liberals out of the Conservative party.
commented 2018-01-27 11:27:39 -0500
As long as the CINO administration is in power nothing will change. Conservatives- true conservatives- need to be way more discerning in who they elect into power. It really is not all that difficult to spot a CINO. When the waffling starts they have come out as the Libs they are.