October 15, 2017

PETA wades into pronoun minefield with “species-ism” lecture

David MenziesMission Specialist

We’re told we need to be careful with pronouns, but because it’s 2017 and the animal rights movement has taken a sharp left turn, it seems we also have to mind our pronouns when referring to animals.

Of all the “isms”, one that’s gaining traction lately is "speciesism" — the exploitation of animals due to human egocentrism, the idea that humans are intrinsically superior to animals.

In a lecture at Binghamton University on speciesism given by PETA’s Hanh Nguyen, she cites as an example of this oppression the way people refer to animals using the pronoun “it” as opposed to “he” or “she.”

While PETA obsesses over which pronouns we need to use when addressing Fido and Fluffy, I wonder what’s next in the animal rights movement as it continues its descent into the depths of insanity?

Maybe "species-appropriation"?

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commented 2017-10-17 22:05:53 -0400
I only shoot squirrels because my cat is pathetic. He catches a lot of song birds though.
commented 2017-10-17 18:34:01 -0400
I don’t mind eating the neighbours pets or a couple strays now and then.!!
commented 2017-10-17 18:31:08 -0400
I hate eating my pets.!!
commented 2017-10-17 11:20:13 -0400
I cringe every time I hear someone call an animal “it.” Animals aren’t furniture. They’re living beings. Is it really too hard for humans to recognize that and use “he” or “she?”
commented 2017-10-17 03:35:55 -0400
You live trapped it.. then by releasing it in another town you just made your problem somebody else’s. The last time I looked squirrels were high on the nuisance list and very very low on the endangered species list.. a while ago I overheard a conversation with a sweet old lady in a hardware store looking for a trap to catch mice that wouldn’t kill them… And if you know anything about trapping mice live traps are very hit and miss, basically ineffective due to the limitations of the locations that you can put them in so I suggested to her sticky paper for mice because it’s very effective relatively cheap and available everywhere and works beyond belief with peanut butter.. She asked me if that would kill them and I replied “oh yes it would kill them to death”.. She looked at me like she was very disgusted and I have seen this before where people catch mice and release them. Not very many people know that a mature mouse breeds every 29 days, lives up to three years and potentially can produce hundreds of offspring that’s start breeding almost as soon as they have fur.

Mice are not only a nuisance and cause thousands of dollars worth of damage in peoples houses and other property but they are also a tremendous health risk to healthy people but incredibly risky to those with asthma and other lung diseases..
If you have ever had a squirrel in your attic you would view them much differently than how Disney over the years has softened the approach to nuisance animals that spread diseases and cause damage to property by making them look cute..
These are the cold hard facts.
commented 2017-10-17 02:58:01 -0400
Yeah it looks like you stumped them Tammie.
Allison Clare said, “Animals, like all of us, deserve to be given a proper pronoun and treated with love and respect. This is an important step in animal rights. By referring to animals as “she” or “he,” it shows we’re recognizing them as living, breathing beings.”

Animals don’t give a rats ass. How absurd. . Try determining the sex of a frog, bird, or squirrel or rabbit. Unless you are looking at a bull or a stallion, you have to get up close and personal.

‘That stupid squirrel kept getting onto my bird feeder and eating all the bird seed, That is why I live trapped ’it ’ and relocated ’it’ to the next town. I don’t know if ‘it’ was male or female. I got ‘its’ brothers and sisters too.’

Why don’t you concern yourself with the true welfare of our furry friends and do something about the slaughter carried out right in our own country, every year in the Muslim community, for the , festival of EID. If your concern was authentic, you wouldn’t be wasting your time on stupid pronouns. You are all a bunch of frauds.

I dare you to check out Tammie’s link, or this one
commented 2017-10-17 00:07:28 -0400
To Craig to Ellison to Lucy and to Amy..

Would you eat your family Pet if you and yer kids we’re starving to death as the result of a Marxist socialist government while living in a resource rich country.??
People in Venezuela who hold more oil than Canada are starving to death right now as the result of a Currency collapse brought on by a corrupt government that stole and borrowed the country into bankruptcy..
The Venezuelans have already eaten their pets out of desperation and now they are taking animals from the zoo for meat..
The situation is so desperate there but you don’t hear anything about it on television or any other mainstream media here… It won’t be long until our government takes us down the same path as our neighbours from the south..
Imagine… Starving to death in a resource rich country and having to eat our pets for subsistence because of the corruption of our government ( elected civil servants) whose values don’t include the welfare of the people who put them into trusted positions of authority and who the resources of that country actually belong to..!!
Don’t fall for the distraction of smoke and mirrors while there’s more sinister things going on than calling a dog by the wrong name or pronoun. We all love our pets, and we all agree that they should be treated as good as we would treat friends but we love our family’s more and government should be held accountable and not throwing distractions out for people to chase their own tails at extraneous and nonsensical things while sinister things are going on away from public view that are not in the best interest of the citizens of the country.!!
commented 2017-10-16 22:26:58 -0400
Tammie – it seems these newbies have spent too much time with animals and let their human empathy go to the dogs.
commented 2017-10-16 17:55:21 -0400
Amy Donovan, Lucy Post, Allison Clare, Craig Shapiro, maybe you can answer a question I posed to PETA some years ago; I never did get a response. Please check with your chapter leader to find out if there is a scripted response on the books. Thanks.
My question is, when is PETA going to publicly denounce the inhumane, ritual slaughter of millions of animals each year, known as Halal slaughter? My second question is, why has this organization remained silent on this issue.

This is but one example of horrific animal abuse. I caution you, it is graphic.
commented 2017-10-16 17:47:31 -0400
Craig Shapiro, a hearty welcome to Rebel, I see this is your first post.
commented 2017-10-16 17:24:21 -0400
Too bad the writer hasn’t experienced the love and companionship of a dog or cat. If he had, he’d realize his argument is a pants-load. I cringe when I hear someone refer to animals as “it.”
commented 2017-10-16 16:50:03 -0400
How interesting, Allison Clare is also a new poster on Rebel.
commented 2017-10-16 16:21:13 -0400
Animals, like all of us, deserve to be given a proper pronoun and treated with love and respect. This is an important step in animal rights. By referring to animals as “she” or “he,” it shows we’re recognizing them as living, breathing beings.
commented 2017-10-16 16:06:32 -0400
Amy Donovan & Lucy Post
Welcome to the Rebel, I see today is the first time you are posting comments.

Many people refer to animal as “it” when they don’t know whether that animal is male or female.
commented 2017-10-16 15:55:12 -0400
Animals aren’t inanimate objects—they are living, feeling, thinking beings. It makes sense to refer to them not at “it” but as “he” or “she.” And for those who have mentioned it, PETA is not a traditional animal shelter. They operate one small shelter—a shelter of last resort for animals who need euthanasia to end their suffering (many of whom have been rejected by other facilities). This explains more about their work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oItn9Rm9_sE
commented 2017-10-16 15:54:40 -0400
It is always easier to use and abuse someone if you see them as an “it” and not a “he” or a “she.” Animals are not inanimate objects. They are living beings who feel fear and pain, and want to live.
commented 2017-10-16 09:25:26 -0400
Drew, my guess is NO.
commented 2017-10-16 01:50:04 -0400
Does anyone know if PETA has ever protested outside one of the bestiality brothels in Germany?
commented 2017-10-16 01:49:14 -0400
Nathan W tell that to PETA when they cull many animals like death mongers.
commented 2017-10-15 22:35:26 -0400
Jan G, there was a huge fundraiser last night for this hardworking & community minded family, and, when Peter thanked all of us for coming, he became very emotional when he talked about losing his cows. It was heartbreaking!
commented 2017-10-15 22:21:40 -0400
We’re all going to the dogs, anyway.
commented 2017-10-15 22:20:42 -0400
Sad part is, groups like PETA, to which I used to contribute at one time, have gone to such extremes and distorted the entire meaning of compassion toward animals, they’ve turned people off.
I am a pescetarian. My father was originally a butcher and left the business.

Tammie: sad story and that group of protesters should have been run off the land. It would break my heart to lose animals like this.
commented 2017-10-15 21:21:38 -0400
Joe B. Good post.. full of empathy and respect for people..! If you look in the Bible there is many many scriptures of how Christ addressed us and how we should “love thy neighbour as thy self” if we would just get back and live how God intended us to live with Christ as a physical example for those who just couldn’t get the understanding by reading we wouldn’t have to reinvent the world or the wheel for commonsense living.
commented 2017-10-15 21:00:08 -0400
Animals deserve to be treated kindly. Peter Singer was right in “Animal Liberation”, a creature’s capacity to feel pain and suffer should be the primary consideration as to whether or not it should have rights. My personal morals are that I don’t want to cause suffering to anything and instinctively want to reduce suffering whenever I can. PETA is a terrible organization that hurts people and threatens their livelihoods for publicity like the farmer mentioned by Tammie that lost all his cattle in the fire and innumerable others. They also have the highest kill rate at their animal “shelters” as they don’t believe in keeping pets and think it is better for the animal to die.

They use hate, fear, intimidation and ridiculous sensationalist gimmicks to get their message across. They make the very concept of animal rights a joke,alienating anyone who may have considered the possibility of animal rights. Like most environmental groups they exist to exist,they make and spend money and convince themselves that it is making any sort of difference while getting caught up in the brilliance of their bizarre and disturbing stunts.

I love animals and think people who torture them are horrible and need to be punished. There’s also absolutely no reason to abuse animals being raised for meat and people who do that are just as bad.

I have and have had a lot of friends and family who hunt and fish and raise livestock and I’ve done most of these things as well.

The right way of doing something is a matter of simple common sense and basic empathy and a decent human being doesn’t abuse or cause pain to a creature just for the sake of doing so.

A compassionate person extends this all areas of their life as it is a part of a decent character. PETA lacks this as an organization.
commented 2017-10-15 20:10:39 -0400
Maurice Potvin commented – " Animals don’t give a damn what we call them. "

Ahhhh but there’s were you’re wrong. We live in an era of identity fluidity you may find yourself someday addressing a chicken “person” at the bank wicket who used to identify as human until she/it took advantage of species fluidity and realized her true inner self to identify as a leghorn hen. If she wants to be addressed as ‘Ck.’ (extraction of “cluck”) you do it or the identity police will destroy you.

commented 2017-10-15 18:59:43 -0400
Nathan W, your comments are irrelevant to the conversation. They are typical leftist deflection by setting up a straw man to knock down. Everyone agrees that we should treat animals humanely so as to eliminate as much as possible any pain and suffering. That has absolutely nothing to do with animal pronouns. Animals don’t give a damn what we call them.
commented 2017-10-15 15:00:12 -0400
Nathan – if you consider a chicken “sentient” does this not extend to an unborn human? Does the human fetus deserve the same compassion as a chicken?
commented 2017-10-15 14:23:46 -0400
All sentient beings should be the object of compassion. For example, even if to eat a steak, to prefer the production process to not involve suffering.

The concept that all sentient being should be the object of compassion is an ancient one, not a new one, and carries much currency in some of the longest-standing and most widepsread spiritual traditions on the planet.
commented 2017-10-15 14:01:06 -0400
Gender fluidity denies biological fact, why not “species fluidity” for those who identify as critters? – the imagination has no limits once you fall off the thin ledge of sanity.
commented 2017-10-15 13:28:08 -0400
I believe that PETA started out with good intentions but have turned into a completely leftist, liberal, idiotic organization.
But this is the way of the world that we now live in, isn’t it?
I mean, if you want to be recognized and become famous say and do the most ridiculous things that don’t make sense to any normal human being and the Liberal MSM and leftist elites will praise you all day long, you will become a celebrity overnight and can continue pissing off normal people while receiving praise from like minded idiots and fools.
We have become a society where outlandish claims and political correctness out weigh good sense and intelligent thought, even to the extent that so called professors and learned academics are spouting utter nonsense and are still allowed to minister to the youth of our countries and infect their vulnerable young minds with idiotic and insane nonsense.
In my opinion this is all being done in the name of diversity and of course has the blessing of the feminist PM and his governing party of our great Nation of Canada, that surely is now the laughing stock of most of the world.
PETA is just another example of all that is wrong with so called modern society. We are being overrun by fools and being forced to accept and like it.
I for one refuse to accept and like it.