February 06, 2019

NEW poll: 60% of Albertans would consider voting for a separatist party — and so would 53% of Saskatchewanians

Ezra LevantRebel Commander


I’m not surprised: Sixty per cent of Albertans would favour a western separatist movement. That’s the result of a new opinion poll by Angus Reid.

Here’s their headline:

Decades after Reform’s rise, voters open to a new ‘Western Canada Party’. And by that, they mean a new federal party, to run in Canadian elections, like the old Reform Party did, to promote a western point of view.

Angus Reid says a new pro-western party would immediately be in first place across the west, and would literally get 40 per cent in Alberta. Could be.

Of course, it would depend a lot on the leader; I think a lot of westerners are disappointed in the weak sauce of Andrew Scheer. Maxime Bernier, who calls himself "the Albertan from Beauce," actually has more of a chance that others might think.

Now look at the real question in the Angus Reid survey:

Would you be in favour or opposed to your own province joining such a western separatist movement?

Forty three per cent of BCers and 45 per cent of Manitobans are strongly opposed to the idea, although 35 per cent of BCers are open to the idea, and 36 per cent are open to it in Manitoba — before such a party even is formed.

(And remember, simply having a western separatist party doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll separate. It might just mean you want to negotiate a bit more firmly than rolling over every time. It's worked for Quebec.

(Furthermore, I’m not sure what use the United States of America would have for an independent Quebec. But I’m pretty sure Donald Trump would know what to do with Alberta...)

And Albertans, I think, know this, if you look at these poll results. Again, without even advocating, 60 per cent of Albertans would immediately support such a project — and half of those supporters are “strong”. That’s a landslide, folks.

So what does this all mean?

I think it means that all of the existing political entities have failed the west.

Obviously the Liberals, but the NDP doesn’t much like it either. And the Conservative Party? Well, the stats speak for themselves: People prefer another party to it; they prefer separatism to it. That’s sad.

Of course other institutions have failed, too. The mainstream media is in many ways the worst; but so are the courts — which are the primary means to attack the oil patch and pipelines. People are fed up.

Remember, though:

They called Preston Manning a bigot for standing up for the west. Thirty years later, that playbook still seems to work. Get ready for it again.

NEXT: One of our most popular guests, consultant and lawyer Manny Montenegrino, comes on to talk about the U.S./Canada trade war I discussed earlier this week. 

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commented 2019-02-07 13:04:34 -0500
Highlights from the Burnaby South all candidates debate:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157137650904319&id=633429318

The debate was hosted by The Friends of Canadian Broadcasting on the odd topic “Can Canada Survive Facebook?”.

The Friends of Canadian Broadcasting is really The Friends of the CBC, an advocacy group for the CBC. For the upcoming election they are advocating “We need more of CBC, not less”, which includes a call to increase per person taxpayer support for the CBC to be increased from $34 per person to $50 per person, a 47% increase!

They must have regretted Laura Lynn’s participation in the debate.
commented 2019-02-07 12:32:31 -0500
Re. the Burnaby South Poll, the PPC is in 4th place. Still not bad , ahead of the Greens who have been at it for years.
The PPC has not been mentioned by the MSM. They are getting the Faith Goldy treatment.
commented 2019-02-07 12:26:01 -0500
Lying Trudy gets caught trying to coerce SNC Lavalin in Libya and Jody Wilson would not cover for the Liberals actions. Justin there is a rope with your name on it you treasonous rat!!
commented 2019-02-07 12:15:28 -0500
New poll this morning—-PPC close 3rd in Burnaby by-election.
warning CanPoli only speaks 1 min.on the 20 min. video on PPC. The rest is on Jody Wilson getting fired as Attorney General.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD-rsfwToQo
commented 2019-02-07 11:59:15 -0500
There is no doubt in my mind Ron Voss. There has never been a more opportune time to effect some real change in this country. I see it as the only hope for this place we all call home, even if all that happens is that the PPC gets its foot in the door. The country cannot go on like this.

That was an excellent speech he gave at the the Equality or
Independence Rally. How ironic that the Scheer the boy from the west is bending over for Quebec and the Quebecer Bernier is fighting for fairness across the board, so that the west is no longer abused and disregarded.
There will never be a better time than this time.
commented 2019-02-07 11:08:19 -0500
Canada is a broken country. At best it was always a Frankenstein’s Monster stitched together with Quebec as the head..four more years of Justin and his rodent like ministers will leave it all looking like a great smoking hole…Too bad Rupert’s Land didn’t wind up in the hands of the Americans, back in 1870…it would have solved so many agonizing and serious problems…
commented 2019-02-07 11:00:45 -0500
In light of that poll, time to consider the Peoples Party of Canada led by Maxime Bernier, ‘the Albertan from Quebec’.

As he concluded in his speech, “Reconciling East and West with the Right Economic Policies”, at the Equality or Independence Rally held in Calgary on January 26, 2019, “You don’t need to flirt with independence. You need to support the principled alternative that will solve these problems. And that’s the People’s Party of Canada.”
commented 2019-02-07 10:22:13 -0500
Alberta is sending more than $20 Billion dollars to Ottawa this year. Do the math. $20 billion divided by 4.3 million Albertans equals the third richest nation in the world. Separation is very feasible for Alberta and whoever wants to join us. Think it won’t happen? Just watch.
commented 2019-02-07 03:11:38 -0500
Come on Big Bus!… Where are you when Western Canada really needs you??,…
commented 2019-02-07 01:30:17 -0500
MUTA WEEN, great idea, tear up Pierre Trudeau’s constitution and change Multiculturalism to fit in with Canadian values.
commented 2019-02-07 00:46:42 -0500
Karen
Oh,East is East and
West is West and
Never the twain shall meet.
The trouble is that the big East has endless Hydro-electric power, so they don’t appreciate Oil, while Alberta-Sask realizes that there are many Countries that would take their Oil like it was Gold. They are both correct.

My guess is that we will find out that Gasoline burned in a modern car doesn’t hurt us, just as we recently thought Diesel didn’t hurt anything, now the same experts say it is deadly compared to Gasoline.

I don’t have much hope for the Lower Mainland of BC, as I think half of them are lazy, and don’t want to do hard work. Imagine thousands of Coffee Shops opening and selling it for $10.00 a cup, and the owners think they are set for life. When a recession comes, (Trudeau) don’t they realize that their coffee is the first to go. The guy with the Gas Station will survive as most people will still need Gas.

I will be looking forward to those fireworks from the East if Trudeau is blown away.
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commented 2019-02-07 00:05:12 -0500
Rob Hewgill
Is Alberta Independence a formally registered party? I see their name is reserved at Elections Alberta but they are not listed as registered party. I sent them an e-mail so I hope to find out soon enough.
Preston Manning brags, I mean brags, about destroying the Western separatist movement last time around. He gives lectures on how to defeat populist movements.
Screw him! And Screw Ottawa And Screw Quebec. They are never going to change!
commented 2019-02-06 23:51:24 -0500
That’s okay Ron Joseph.
Let’s focus our energies on happily breaking up a country despite dangerous gov’t meddling! 😊
No problem.
Peace & love to everybody.
commented 2019-02-06 23:49:34 -0500
My apologies Karen Macleod—I copied it correctly but I didn’t notice that there was no date on my Wikipedia. It changed at the end of 2012. I was spreading Fake News.
commented 2019-02-06 23:33:47 -0500
Ron Joseph,
I think its high time to just have a sit down with Alberta & the prairies and just say, “You’re not getting any younger. You’re not getting richer. You’ve been played the same harp and now the tune sucks already. You want your own path? Shut up and make it. Just do it for you no matter the cost.”
I hope BC separates into its own country too. We’re rich and big enough. Gotta coast & good resources. We can only move up on our own.
No hard feelings, but time is what matters with opportunities.
Just go for it everybody. Make yourself happy. Be independent.
commented 2019-02-06 23:21:46 -0500
Well Ron Joseph,
There won’t be a short show on election night. Even with the media black out, just watch the sky for fireworks!
Trudeau is just dead to me. I wish it came sooner. Oh well, lessoned learned. I’m sure I’m not alone.
There’s always a way out so just celebrate that.
commented 2019-02-06 22:47:53 -0500
You’re right Ron Joseph about the.. “We need Electoral College Reform like the US.”
commented 2019-02-06 22:43:54 -0500
Karen Macleod—-Where do you get those seat numbers—not even close!
BC 28
Alb 21
Sask 14
Man 14
All of them together are equal to Que.

50 years ago I was watching the Canadian elections in Vancouver with my father.
All of a sudden he said see you later. I said where are you going, Manitoba results are just coming in.
He said it’s over, the Liberals won with a majority.

We need Electoral College Reform like the US.
commented 2019-02-06 22:40:07 -0500
Billy Howard…..personally, if Scheer wanted on The Rebel, I would say tough luck….you had your many invitations and declined.
commented 2019-02-06 22:16:09 -0500
Billy Howard,
The same thing happened with Trump & Brexit.
All media pushes from top to bottom. Then the rug was pulled from beneath on the top.
I’m buying fire crackers & beer now to stock pile for Trudeau’s fall.
commented 2019-02-06 22:11:33 -0500
It’s got to the point that Scheer and the CPC HAVE to engage regularly with the Rebel. The Media Party will destroy the CPC in the election campaign. Without a media source to objectively voice opposition to Trudeau and give Scheer and his team a chance to actually have a voice, Trudeau is guaranteed another majority, IMO.
commented 2019-02-06 22:08:07 -0500
Trudeau, Freeland, Quebec and Western Separatists…
I gotta song for you to sing. Its an old song like the one’s your singing now.
https://youtu.be/_PXIui8sa2U
commented 2019-02-06 21:57:14 -0500
Thank you Cal White,
Have a good evening.
Different provinces also have difgerent cultures, btw. Some like the fact we’re so diverse in opinion but happy together. Otherwise, we’d move.
commented 2019-02-06 21:38:55 -0500
I really wish Rebel would segregate comment threads. One responds to someone else in a conversation, but the comment responded to is well down the line.
commented 2019-02-06 21:35:09 -0500
Which is exactly what my kids, who are interior, always point out…particularly for Provincial elections. The power is concentrated.

I think that is what makes AB and SA so interesting for politics. Each has a major N and S city plus a large rural electorate, no obvious power centre. I am willing to be corrected, but I think that is unique in Canada.

Anyway, have a good evening.
commented 2019-02-06 21:29:35 -0500
Is Trudeau an illegal PM or an “irregular” PM?

Last time I checked to be irregular.. you had the sh!t’s ….
commented 2019-02-06 21:28:55 -0500
Given the USMCA,
Alberta & the prairies would have a better economy… With all the US’s problems.
All the debt. All the immigration problems. If you want to be white knighted by the USA, its trading wifes, not problems.
commented 2019-02-06 21:28:23 -0500
We Albertans should threaten to separate or become an American state. I’m sure that would make the Laurention bubble heads freak out. The problem is that we have standards of loyalty which prevents us from blackmailing the nation like Quebec politicians regularly do.