Poll: Majority oppose the Richmond Hill city council vote against "O Canada"

Well, Glenn, surely “conversing” is more productive than posting several comments about why you’re NOT conversing. Seems kinda…well, pointless, no?
In any case, I’m wondering about your use of the term “liberal” troll. See, what I’m arguing for here is two very fundamental conservative principles: the right of citizens to elect and be governed without interference from outside; the accountability of elected politicians through the electoral process.
The Rebel on the other hand, seems to be arguing that THEY should be allowed to dictate municipal procedure. That’s not very “conservative”, now, is it?

Why waste your time conversing with a liberal troll (Terry Rudden)?

Michael McKay: “Our founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew what was going on in this country right now.”
I think you need to read up a bit on our founding fathers. I recommend Richard Gwyn’s two volume biography of Sir John A.

No they don’t care Brian! They are in this for 3 plus more years. They don’t give a shit about the public. They will do what’s best for them and them alone,just like all politicians. I just hope you bring this up to the people during the next elections.

I don’t find this a major issue, it’s up to citizens of Richmond Hill to work it out amongst themselves.
If it was federal, it would be an issue for all of us.

Simpler to just say the Lord’s prayer…but is that now unconstitutional?

Our founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew what was going on in this country right now. Committees and councils and courts overturning well-established rules of law and freedoms to worship and to pray.

T our founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew what was going on in this country right now. Committees and councils and courts overturning well-established rules of law and freedoms to worship and to pray.

These imbeciles and cabbage brain yahoos that are doing this, need to be fired on the spot. You don’t like this country and its founding fathers and what they left us the great legacy they left us, then these imbeciles and cabbage brain yahoos that are doing this, need to be fired on the spot. You don’t like this country and its founding fathers and what they left us the great legacy they left us, t left us hen pack your bags, and get out. You make the rest of us want to puke.

The “real” question is: Whom are the riff-raff that polled in favor of this ban?
If Immigrants, recent arrivals? Turn the boat around & send them back ‘home’.
Everyday heathen liberal/socialists? They remain a scruffy minority.

Glenn: "just what noble cause are you trying to represent on this thread? Do you actually want our national anthem banned at public events? Would it surprise you that you might be in a minority of people who want that? "
To answer your questions in order:
a) Two noble causes. First, the right of community governments to make decisions within their sphere of authority, including decisions I don’t like, and to be accountable to the electorate for them, without harassment by showboat ideologues from outside. Second, accuracy in polling. The poll question used by The Rebel’s hired polling firm does NOT clarify that the Richmond Hill council was responding to advice that council received, and that council never DID sing the national anthem – it was phrased in a way that suggested they had suddenly decided to stop.
b) Do I want our national anthem banned at public events? No. Why on earth would you think that??
c) "Would it surprise you that you might be in a minority of people who want that? " Please see (b).

the people behind this are leftists who want to diminish our Government, and promote things like Shariah Law and the American style Global Warming doctrine. They are fundamentally anti-Canadian and should be booted out by the voters.

Where are the people in this riding? What is truly behind this. Council & constituents just say no. Strength in numbers.

are these people Psychotic?
seriously richmond hill get your politcians in order !

Terry Rudden I know what you mean about polls being bullshit….they are certainly no way to form public policy. The polls had Michael Ignatiev crowned king….what the pollsters did not factor in was that the people who hung up and/or said “fuck off” and hung up were going to vote Tory.

The very fact that people are willing to talk to a total stranger…disclose things that are none of that strangers business ….for the benefit of the poll’s sponsors who are not willing to disclose who they are or why they need to know…shows a gullibility and scope of trust that is NOT typical of the population broadly speaking.

Now Terry…just what noble cause are you trying to represent on this thread? Do you actually want our national anthem banned at public events? Would it surprise you that you might be in a minority of people who want that?

Note the absence of a response, Glenn

Our stupid Charter of Rights and Freedoms broadened the scope of judicial review. Now, 9 unelected judges have the final say over an entire elected parliament unless the “notwithstanding clause” is used by parliament. This stupid ruling needs the clause invoked and some Supreme Court judges retired.

These councilors sound about as stupid and idiotic as the Councilors in the City of Nanaimo BC

Thanks Terry, our ‘official’ liberal troll.

Rule of law does not mean rule by lawyers. Supreme Court justices, lawyers, every one, are fallible, individually and collectively. Another case must be brought to allow them to save face and backtrack their short-sighted, Constitution-endangering ruling on the use of the word “God” in council.

This is how these councilors choose to waste their time. Shaking my head.

Brian, can you provide a little more information about the polling methodology, including the sampling strategy, the wording of the introduction, and the exact wording of the questions? Thanks so much.