April 23, 2019

(WATCH) PragerU: Is Denmark socialist?

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With the clear failure of socialist states from the Soviet Union to Venezuela, the left likes to bring up Denmark as their “proof” that socialism works.

Otto Brons-Petersen explains why they’re wrong in this video for PragerU.

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commented 2019-04-25 11:20:49 -0400
Al,

Would you get a diagnosis if you went to the States, and had the sorts of insurance comparable to what you’d have through your present workplace in the US? That may not be a systematic failure. Medicine is still a pretty crude science and often they legitimately don’t know what causes a particular problem once the usual suspects are ruled out.

The Americans spend a lot on healthcare – more than we do – but its’ all spent on gold-plated care for the top 20% or so. The middle class still pays more than we do, but instead of hospitals balking at MRIs, you have insurance companies balking at paying for it (ever needed a root canal after you’ve already used your dental benefits for the year? Same idea). For everyone else, very little. Obamacare is a half-assed solution to it, but about as far as they can get in their current political environment. Over time that will probably change, but who knows how long that will be? Perhaps the best solution is indeed a mixed system as in Europe, but that’s still backstopped by the public system.

Paying for surgery is a common experience in the US.
commented 2019-04-23 23:47:04 -0400
Andrew

The reason anything to the left of total laissez-faire is slammed as commie, is b/c it will be soon enough. Have you ever seen a lefty that doesn’t push for more? I mean we’re seeing it now, as they push for the Green New Deal or LEAP Manifesto.

Social assistance in Canada started in the 70’s with one program. And now many demand a Guaranteed Income Supplement on top of a dozen programs, all the while denying there’s such a thing as a slippery slope.

So the real question is, how do you keep these programs to a minimum? From spinning out of control? Any suggestions?
commented 2019-04-23 22:18:57 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON
…why are they so uncomfortable with single-payer public healthcare…?
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Because it doesn’t work. I have seen 15 specialists over a similar number of years and still have no diagnosis. People always say, “We have the best healthcare system in the world.” We don’t. We have the best critical care system in the world. Once you’re on death’s door they go into action. Otherwise you wait and wait and wait and….

The difference between the the Canadian system and the U.S. system are that in Canada everything is free; you just can’t get it. In the U.S.you can get anything; you just can’t afford it. And yet in Manitoba thousands of people have paid their way to get surgery done in Germany. I have been to see them when they come to do consultations with Canadians. If I had $40,000 or more burning a hole in my pocket I’d be in Germany getting what our single payer system can’t or won’t supply.

So we don’t have a single payer system. That’s only if you want to wait to die or if you have the flu. If you actually want to get actual healthcare you pay twice- once with your taxes to get nothing and once more with your after tax dollars to go to the US or Germany.
commented 2019-04-23 19:42:23 -0400
ICBC is the ONLY option for vehicle insurance in British Columbia. Therefore, whenever someone gets into an accident involving more than one BC insured vehicle, they are in an immediate conflict of interest. There was one particular case where a woman was rear-ended at a stop sign and suffered a serious neck injury. ICBC refused to cover the full cost and suggested that she sue the other driver. She should have sued ICBC directly but she foolishly followed their advice. Of course, since the other driver was also insured by ICBC, they vigorously defended him, and ICBC can afford a much better team of lawyers than she could. The court ruled that since there were patches of black ice on the road at the time, no one was at fault. She ended up being charged with the full court cost. She ended up losing her house and the the ICBC representative got a big promotion. If that isn’t pure evil at work in a government run system, I don’t know what is.
commented 2019-04-23 15:54:21 -0400
Andrew Stephenson don’t get me wrong i think our healthcare could be great and affordable if run properly and people took responsibility for their health and we had a public/private mix.
commented 2019-04-23 15:51:16 -0400
Andrew Stephenson having some of what you call Socialism does not make a province or country Socialist, that is the point of the video. Too much Socialism is a disaster as it creates tyranny. Our own health care is bloated horribly and hardly efficient. When Ralph privatized diagnostics they sped up considerably and wait times crumbled. Under Notley wait times increased a lot in Emergency wait times and surgical wait times. I know that personally.
commented 2019-04-23 15:48:04 -0400
Andrew Stephenson public auto insurance is not so great, try getting a fair payout when you are injured. And socialized daycare in Quebec is a mess, rich people get free daycare while poor people wait in line for a spot. Try some research and ask actual people how it affects them.
commented 2019-04-23 10:26:17 -0400
Denmark isn’t a command-economy the way the Soviet Union was, but that doesn’t mean that public institutions don’t figure very prominently into their lives. The condemnation of everything but a completely unregulated, laissez-faire economy as “socialist” or “communist” (the distinction is often lost in the debate) is something that comes from the Right, not the Left – why are they so uncomfortable with single-payer public healthcare?

Saskatchewan’s car insurance system is unequivocally “socialist” relative to the “free market” (actually, oligopoiic) alternative in half a dozen other provinces. This does not make Regina a Soviet outpost.